riglife
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So the penalty is gonna cost someone the cup but the player making the mistake and shooting the puck over the glass isn't gonna cost the team? . - ruttager17
How does shooting the puck over the glass cost a team? |
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ruttager17
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: "Don't worry about me, worry about yourself". -EKLB DNZ supreme , AB Joined: 10.21.2011
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All im saying is from the time were 10, were taught in minor hockey to clear the puck off the glass, i dont see it being worth a penalty. The Rangers lost a game because of this dumb rule. As for "accidental" high sticking, you can not drag player safety into this. Player safety should be the leagues first and foremost priority. - riglife
Oh its about player safety then, nice deflection. Ok, if you accidentally get your stick caught in someones feet and they trip. Shouldn't be a penalty. What cost the rangers the game was not being better than the caps and winning in regulation. So they go to overtime and we as fans don't agree with a rule and when a player breaks that rule it is the rules fault that the team loses the game????
It is called accountability. From the time we are 10, I would hope we are being taught this as well. |
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Flyfreaky
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Joined: 07.20.2011
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How does shooting the puck over the glass cost a team? - riglife
They get a penalty... |
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riglife
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: SK Joined: 01.03.2013
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I agree with accountability and player safety, but this issue is not about player safety, so lets forget that. All Im saying is I dont see how shooting the puck over the glass warrants a penalty. |
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Flyfreaky
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Joined: 07.20.2011
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I agree with accountability and player safety, but this issue is not about player safety, so lets forget that. All Im saying is I dont see how shooting the puck over the glass warrants a penalty. - riglife
Because before they had this rule everyone dumped the puck over the glass to get stoppages and it was like watching a pile of sh*t... |
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riglife
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: SK Joined: 01.03.2013
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Because before they had this rule everyone dumped the puck over the glass to get stoppages and it was like watching a pile of sh*t... - Flyfreaky
But watching the trap is fun? |
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Flyfreaky
Philadelphia Flyers |
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But watching the trap is fun? - riglife
I don't see the trap that much anymore...I've been watching tons of playoff hockey this year and these games are pretty damn entertaining north/south games... |
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riglife
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: SK Joined: 01.03.2013
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I don't see the trap that much anymore...I've been watching tons of playoff hockey this year and these games are pretty damn entertaining north/south games... - Flyfreaky
Ya your right, not alot of trap, which is good, has been some real good playoffs lately, didnt see Minnie giving the Hawks as much trouble as they are |
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riglife
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: SK Joined: 01.03.2013
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and was kind of happy seeing the leafs beat the bruins last night |
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Flyfreaky
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Ya your right, not alot of trap, which is good, has been some real good playoffs lately, didnt see Minnie giving the Hawks as much trouble as they are - riglife
Today is the first time I've watched the Hawk/Wild series and it's pretty entertaining... |
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Flyfreaky
Philadelphia Flyers |
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and was kind of happy seeing the leafs beat the bruins last night - riglife
That was fantastic playoff hockey... |
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ruttager17
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: "Don't worry about me, worry about yourself". -EKLB DNZ supreme , AB Joined: 10.21.2011
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I agree with accountability and player safety, but this issue is not about player safety, so lets forget that. All Im saying is I dont see how shooting the puck over the glass warrants a penalty. - riglife
Ok, this makes more sense. In some cases it seems kinda lame but at some point you can just shoot it over when in trouble to get a whistle. Players aren't stupid and will use it to their advantage. I guess this rule makes the team who is pressuring the other team to the point where they are forced to do this, get a reward for their hard work. Obviously in some cases it is just an accident, but can't really decide when in some cases it is and others it isn't. The refs are still human beings and the less judgement calls they are allowed to make the better, as judgement calls makes for some seriously inconsistent refereeing, which we have seen for the past 8 seasons since they implemented the interference rules with the stick. |
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Zogg
Vancouver Canucks |
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Joined: 09.16.2005
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The Coli was crazy! Its a shame that the refs may decide this series. - mighty13duck
You can say that about most series |
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Flyfreaky
Philadelphia Flyers |
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You can say that about most series - Zogg
Not true...The 5-3 was a pile of crap and that OT call was brutal...Lose both of those bad reffing calls and the Isle skate off with the win... |
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riglife
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: SK Joined: 01.03.2013
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I guess this rule makes the team who is pressuring the other team to the point where they are forced to do this, get a reward for their hard work. - ruttager17
And thats why if offensive team is pinning defensive team in their own end, and defensive tem is played out and tired and just want a whistle by shooting it into the crowd, make it like icing, defensive zone face off and no line change. |
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jpl0219
St Louis Blues |
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Location: O Fallon, MO Joined: 01.16.2009
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I think if it goes over the glass, it should be an automatic penalty. However, i think there should be referee discretion as to pucks shot into the players bench. There are some cases where it is deliberate, and others where it is an accident, and the rule should be written that way. |
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Flyfreaky
Philadelphia Flyers |
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And thats why if offensive team is pinning defensive team in their own end, and defensive tem is played out and tired and just want a whistle by shooting it into the crowd, make it like icing, defensive zone face off and no line change. - riglife
That's not harsh enough to stop teams from doing it to get out of trouble...The penalty has been a fantastic deterrent... |
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ruttager17
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: "Don't worry about me, worry about yourself". -EKLB DNZ supreme , AB Joined: 10.21.2011
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Beatle_john
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Corner of Kirk Maclean's Toe and Robert Reichel's face. Joined: 01.09.2006
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How does shooting the puck over the glass cost a team? - riglife
The NHL was rife was players just dumping the puck out of their D-zone to get a whistle when they could not clear the puck. It was so common that it happened every game by both teams. It Suck-a-dee-do-dah, Suck-a-dee-day.
The rule is needed. Stupid yes, but no one is accusing the NHL of being smart. |
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sfischer
Washington Capitals |
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Joined: 12.04.2006
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There was a delay of game penalty earlier in the overtime on the Caps, and the Rangers failed to convert on the power play. Had the Rangers converted, and won the game, would we be having this discussion? Now, another factor in the Rangers delay of game penalty was the fatigue of McDonough when he committed it. According to: http://www.nyrangersblog....-3-minutes-4-seconds.html he was on the ice for a shift over 3 minutes in length - in OVERTIME! First, how was that going to end well for the Rangers? Second, where is the coach's accountability in this? Vince Lombardi said "Fatigue makes cowards of us all". Not using this to call McDonagh a coward, but illustrate that all people, world class athletes included, are more prone to error, and mistakes in judgment when fatigued. The question that needs to be asked is not "why do we have this rule?", but rather "why did his coach leave him out there so long to the point where a mental or physical breakdown became inevitable?" |
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Terrier13
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: StubHub, NY Joined: 04.21.2007
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Hate the penalty! If you ice the puck to get a stoppage the result is a faceoff in your zone with no change of players. If you shoot the puck over the glass to gain a stoppage the result should be the same.
With all of the great physical play so far in the playoffs, and players battling for every inch of ice, to have games decided because you gave a free puck to a potential souvineer customer is absurd. |
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Blue Clam
St Louis Blues |
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Location: Ottawa, ON Joined: 07.16.2009
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Game winning dive - Iamnumber27
neither a dive or a penalty. simply went down as a result of forcing the puck on net
edit: looking at it more it does look like he clipped his back foot, causing him to go down |
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Dirte
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Toronto, ON Joined: 09.03.2009
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- Winning
i think if I were a ref, I'd call that. He's all over him.
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sfischer
Washington Capitals |
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i think if I were a ref, I'd call that. He's all over him. - Dirte
as much contempt as I have for Crosby, that was a foul. Streit has to know who that is, and that he's absolutely going to get whistled for that. |
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deadsector
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: sherwood park, AB Joined: 01.08.2013
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No ek, rangers fans will be pissed but had that call gone the other way the boot would be on the other foot. Why complain about rules that are in black and white those are the best kind of rules, take as much presure of the refs. Nothing wrong with what happened alanzar in my opinion did not do it on purpus. The only thing that bothers me about this rule as it doesn't include the benchs. See what happened in the kings blues game? Thats dangerous and was done on purpus that can't be allowed. Other then that theres nothing wrong with this rule. You seem to like rules that aren't worded clearly whats with that? |
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