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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

May 5 @ 10:17 PM ET
I agree, I'm thinking more in terms of Giroux, though. I think he'll be signed with time to spare.
- BulliesPhan87


Gotcha. I didn't follow that. But now I see where you were going.
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

May 5 @ 10:18 PM ET
Yea, we know that from the Weber OS. But as has been said previously. I think going to route with St' Louis would be a waste of time.
- MJL

How do you know they haven't been trying?
- MJL


Firstly, true they could've been trying this whole time. I don't think it'll be a waste of time as much as it'll sever trade relationships. If it fails and we decide we'd like Shattenkirk, well his price just coincidentally skyrocketed. Also, what goes around comes around. I'm sure teams would start offering contracts to our RFAs if we made a habit out of doing it to other teams.
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

May 5 @ 10:21 PM ET
I agree, I'm thinking more in terms of Giroux, though. I think he'll be signed with time to spare.
- BulliesPhan87

Well my concern is, when does the 10M boost in cap ceiling kick in, next offseason? If we're right at the cap limit, can we sign a new big contact, or do we have to wait? I know theoretically Pittsburgh is something like 8 mil over the ceiling now so maybe it's allowed in some instances?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

May 5 @ 10:23 PM ET
Well my concern is, when does the 10M boost in cap ceiling kick in, next offseason? If we're right at the cap limit, can we sign a new big contact, or do we have to wait? I know theoretically Pittsburgh is something like 8 mil over the ceiling now so maybe it's allowed in some instances?
- JAKEw1234


Actually it's the opposite. Pittsburgh has almost 8M in Cap space as of now for next Season. The 10M off season exemption starts July 1.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

May 5 @ 10:25 PM ET
You better believe there are no cap complications with signing Giroux. If they need cap space, they will do what it takes to clear some.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

May 5 @ 10:28 PM ET
You better believe there are no cap complications with signing Giroux. If they need cap space, they will do what it takes to clear some.
- BulliesPhan87



Cap space isn't an issue to sign Giroux to a new deal.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

May 5 @ 10:29 PM ET
While we have the cap expert on the line: I know next season the cap is going down, but then is expected to rise in following seasons. Do we know the specifics on how that cap increase per year will be calculated under the new CBA?

EDIT: nevermind, found it:
- The basics of how the cap and floor will be calculated is that they will be 15 per cent above and 15 per cent below the midpoint. I’ve written in the past about calculating the midpoint, and according to Bill Daly, the new CBA keeps the same formula.
http://www.theglobeandmai...0-million/article7029575/
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

May 5 @ 10:34 PM ET
While we have the cap expert on the line: I know next season the cap is going down, but then is expected to rise in following seasons. Do we know the specifics on how that cap increase per year will be calculated under the new CBA?

EDIT: nevermind, found it:
- The basics of how the cap and floor will be calculated is that they will be 15 per cent above and 15 per cent below the midpoint. I’ve written in the past about calculating the midpoint, and according to Bill Daly, the new CBA keeps the same formula.
http://www.theglobeandmai...0-million/article7029575/

- BulliesPhan87

Ed Snider's eyes light up when he hears the cap could reach 90M
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

May 5 @ 10:35 PM ET
You better believe there are no cap complications with signing Giroux. If they need cap space, they will do what it takes to clear some.
- BulliesPhan87

Ya I wouldn't worry about it. The way most people see this off season going down leaves the Flyers with 3M to 4M or more. Ontop of Giroux's current salary and we'll have plenty of cap for that.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

May 5 @ 10:37 PM ET
Ya I wouldn't worry about it. The way most people see this off season going down leaves the Flyers with 3M to 4M or more. Ontop of Giroux's current salary and we'll have plenty of cap for that.
- JAKEw1234


Cap space this off season doesn't matter in terms of re-signing Giroux to a new deal.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

May 5 @ 10:37 PM ET
PAVELSKI w00000000000000
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

May 5 @ 10:41 PM ET
Cap space this off season doesn't matter in terms of re-signing Giroux to a new deal.
- MJL

Wel I was meaning if they opted to resign him during next season instead of waiting for the offseason
strongsupporter
Joined: 10.07.2010

May 5 @ 10:43 PM ET
Trade him. I don't know how else to get the money off in capgeek. No buyout for mez
- Just5

1501 times. How many more?
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

May 5 @ 10:43 PM ET
Cap space this off season doesn't matter in terms of re-signing Giroux to a new deal.
- MJL

Also, since every idea I propose is "unrealistic", what would you like to see the Flyers do this off season in terms of trades and acquisitions?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

May 5 @ 10:43 PM ET
Wel I was meaning if they opted to resign him during next season instead of waiting for the offseason
- JAKEw1234



I seriously doubt that the Flyers will let Giroux reach RFA status.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

May 5 @ 10:44 PM ET
Also, since every idea I propose is "unrealistic", what would you like to see the Flyers do this off season in terms of trades and acquisitions?
- JAKEw1234


I'd like to see the Flyers improve the defense. And add some toughness to the forward lineup.
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

May 5 @ 10:44 PM ET
San Jose is running wild over Vancouver.

Canucks have needed changes for a while now. Their D is pretty solid, but the forwards are soft as hell.

Torres is having a great series.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

May 5 @ 10:45 PM ET
San Jose is running wild over Vancouver.

Canucks have needed changes for a while now. Their D is pretty solid, but the forwards are soft as hell.

Torres is having a great series.

- flyer_nutter

and yet canuck fans this the sedins are the 2nd coming it's hilarious
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

May 5 @ 10:48 PM ET
San Jose is running wild over Vancouver.

Canucks have needed changes for a while now. Their D is pretty solid, but the forwards are soft as hell.

Torres is having a great series.

- flyer_nutter

I love watching the Canucks lose
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

May 5 @ 10:50 PM ET
I love watching the Canucks lose
- Giroux_Is_God

most people do their fans are awful but the sharks are just up the road from me GO SHARKS!
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

May 5 @ 10:53 PM ET
and yet canuck fans this the sedins are the 2nd coming it's hilarious
- 2Real


How an organization can continue to put a large part of its playoffs hopes on those two is stupid.

Gillis has made some solid deals, and contracts for his D but the sedins need to go. The goaltending in Vancouver is just fine, but who on that top 9 can you expect to consistently win a board battle other than Kesler.

2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

May 5 @ 10:54 PM ET
GO PAUL MACLANE YOU"RE AWSOME!
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

May 5 @ 10:55 PM ET
How an organization can continue to put a large part of its playoffs hopes on those two is stupid.

Gillis has made some solid deals, and contracts for his D but the sedins need to go. The goaltending in Vancouver is just fine, but who on that top 9 can you expect to consistently win a board battle other than Kesler.

- flyer_nutter

burrows can help with that but when your top line is the sedins that are softer than faeries then yea
GirouxForTheShow
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Fuck you raff
Joined: 01.04.2009

May 5 @ 10:55 PM ET
How an organization can continue to put a large part of its playoffs hopes on those two is stupid.

Gillis has made some solid deals, and contracts for his D but the sedins need to go. The goaltending in Vancouver is just fine, but who on that top 9 can you expect to consistently win a board battle other than Kesler.

- flyer_nutter


Dude the Sedins are pretty filthy. Yeah you can't expect them to wn board battles, but those two go as VanCity goes, they don't have any other pure skill guys.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

May 5 @ 10:58 PM ET
Watching the Habs female dog and moan warms my soul
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