What is everyone's opinion on Gonchar? Hes old but he is also an experienced puckmover and personally I wouldnt mind him coming on a one year deal

Also, Homer did what he could to get that #1 defenseman. He brought in Pronger then last season he tried both Weber and Suter. He knows what the issues on this team are and its only a matter of time before he finds the situation where he can address them
- FrmRusiaWifGlov

I think the last thing we need is an old D man. Rather make a move for a young guy.

If we bought out Mez then we'd be stuck with Bryz for 7 more years... gotta weigh your priorities.
- JAKEw1234

I agree. There is no reason to buyout Mez.

2013 Draft eligible Bo Horvat (London) score after being taken down while on his stomach

2013 Draft eligible Nikita Zadorov (London) with a beautiful pass that leads to a power play goal.

After 2

Barrie - 0
London - 3

Stolarz with 12 saves

My 2€ on the gardiner debate... Once again it's about projecting this players. Wed be lucky to have him. He may never be a complete shutdown dman but offensive upside is thru the roof. Comparable to a yandle in a few years. If we could get him cheap it would be a steal. No debate about it.

My 2€ on the gardiner debate... Once again it's about projecting this players. Wed be lucky to have him. He may never be a complete shutdown dman but offensive upside is thru the roof. Comparable to a yandle in a few years. If we could get him cheap it would be a steal. No debate about it.
- SMS4016

The debate seems to be more along the lines of how cheap (or expensive) he would be.

How high can the price be for a player they've all but given up on? If they cared about his development anymore he'd be in the AHL not a healthy scratch for the whole season.
- JAKEw1234

If he really has been given up on, to the point we can get him in a steal of a trade, I'd say it's a no brainer. But I'll believe the price has truly come that far down when I see it.

I think the last thing we need is an old D man. Rather make a move for a young guy.
- JAKEw1234

An old guy is alright, if we can get him on the short term. It gives the Flyers something while they try to acquire said young player, and maybe an asset to flip for a low round pick at the TDL if the timing is right.

My 2€ on the gardiner debate... Once again it's about projecting this players. Wed be lucky to have him. He may never be a complete shutdown dman but offensive upside is thru the roof. Comparable to a yandle in a few years. If we could get him cheap it would be a steal. No debate about it.
- SMS4016

Correct, and I think with how down Toronto seems on him, we could get him for cheap. Maybe not for flat our Mez, as has been shot down by you guys, but for Mez and a few mid draft picks (maybe 2 3rds and 2 4ths) I think we could get him... Toronto has a pretty itching need for top 4 d men, which Mez will be starting next season. To trade your healthy scratch dman and get a top 4 dman and picks, I think they'd do it.

injuries suck. flyers gotta be the most unlucky team in the league in that regard, long term (at least it feels that way)

flip-side of the above comment: the lack of any real trade value means they'd be wiser to just see what they can get out of him this year. i mean, there's not a whole hell of a lot that interests me out there on the ufa market


- FlyerMike18

honestly i'd love to see the stats on that... how many teams used 14 defensemen in 48 games

how that turns into people sayinge mesz never did anything besdes get a shoulder injury is beyond me,




thankfully.

An old guy is alright, if we can get him on the short term. It gives the Flyers something while they try to acquire said young player, and maybe an asset to flip for a low round pick at the TDL if the timing is right.
- BulliesPhan87

Well I'd just be worried about potential candidates working to the point of unobtainablility. I can bet you Gardiner isn't gonna sit on his ass next season. He'll probably work himself raw to earn a higher standing on the team, and hence his price will raise. Same goes for most young dmen. The longer we wait, the higher the price goes. I say acting this offseason to get a young dman is the best option.

Correct, and I think with how down Toronto seems on him, we could get him for cheap. Maybe not for flat our Mez, as has been shot down by you guys, but for Mez and a few mid draft picks (maybe 2 3rds and 2 4ths) I think we could get him... Toronto has a pretty itching need for top 4 d men, which Mez will be starting next season. To trade your healthy scratch dman and get a top 4 dman and picks, I think they'd do it.
- JAKEw1234

The faster we get rid of pu$$y mez the better. I'd rather play a young guy at 1 mil than mez at 4 mil knowing he's getting injured at some point.

Why on Earth would you piss away a CBO on Meszaros with one year left on his deal?
- Jsaquella

Trade him. I don't know how else to get the money off in capgeek. No buyout for mez

The debate seems to be more along the lines of how cheap (or expensive) he would be.
- MBFlyerfan

Oh, gotcha ya, think a 2nd round pick and a couple low level prospects is as High as I would go

Trade him. I don't know how else to get the money off in capgeek. No buyout for mez
- Just5

Hell we could trade Briere for something. Find the highest bidder. Maybe Buffalo will want him for a 6th or 7th rounder. It'd be better than getting nothing.

Oh, gotcha ya, think a 2nd round pick and a couple low level prospects is as High as I would go
- SMS4016

Or Mez and a couple picks since we need to lose the salary...

Well I'd just be worried about potential candidates working to the point of unobtainablility. I can bet you Gardiner isn't gonna sit on his ass next season. He'll probably work himself raw to earn a higher standing on the team, and hence his price will raise. Same goes for most young dmen. The longer we wait, the higher the price goes. I say acting this offseason to get a young dman is the best option.
- JAKEw1234

More options will come up, things will shake loose elsewhere. I can agree that we can't wait the problems away, but going to the table anxious and desperate is bad for negotiations.

Well, bad for us at least.

Hell we could trade Briere for something. Find the highest bidder. Maybe Buffalo will want him for a 6th or 7th rounder. It'd be better than getting nothing.
- JAKEw1234

No movement clause says it's not that simple.

Or Mez and a couple picks since we need to lose the salary...
- JAKEw1234

Even better if nonis is dumb enough to do it.

More options will come up, things will shake loose elsewhere. I can agree that we can't wait the problems away, but going to the table anxious and desperate is bad for negotiations.

Well, bad for us at least.
- BulliesPhan87

You just have to look calm about it, hence Homer's comments "I'm happy with our D when we're healthy".
I'd be ok with us waiting if we drafted Nurse of Pulock, but thats about it. I posted this in an old comment section, but by 14-15 or 15-16 season I'd like our D to be

Gardiner - Schenn
Gustafsson - Grossmann
Pulock - Lauridsen

It may not seem that good now but in 3 years I think it'll be dynamite.

No movement clause says it's not that simple.
- BulliesPhan87

Briere's a class guy, I know he'd waive. Might as well try anyway, no real harm in it. If he says no then buy out commences. I'd actually rather waive if I was Briere, it means he can keep his high-paying salary instead of having to go sign a new, much lower-cost contract.

You just have to look calm about it, hence Homer's comments "I'm happy with our D when we're healthy".
I'd be ok with us waiting if we drafted Nurse of Pulock, but thats about it. I posted this in an old comment section, but by 14-15 or 15-16 season I'd like our D to be

Gardiner - Schenn
Gustafsson - Grossmann
Pulock - Lauridsen

It may not seem that good now but in 3 years I think it'll be dynamite.
- JAKEw1234

Looking calm isn't going to do much, this ain't poker night. Every other GM knows our situation. The real trick is being willing to walk away. Of course, that requires a sincere willingness to do so.

If that's what it comes to, walking away instead of taking a bad deal, I can live with it. I'm not married to any one solution for our team.

You just have to look calm about it, hence Homer's comments "I'm happy with our D when we're healthy".
I'd be ok with us waiting if we drafted Nurse of Pulock, but thats about it. I posted this in an old comment section, but by 14-15 or 15-16 season I'd like our D to be

Gardiner - Schenn
Gustafsson - Grossmann
Pulock - Lauridsen

It may not seem that good now but in 3 years I think it'll be dynamite.
- JAKEw1234

Ghost will be here in 3 years.

Briere's a class guy, I know he'd waive. Might as well try anyway, no real harm in it. If he says no then buy out commences. I'd actually rather waive if I was Briere, it means he can keep his high-paying salary instead of having to go sign a new, much lower-cost contract.
- JAKEw1234

Money might not be an issue for Briere. I don't know the specifics of his situation, but it seems to me he doesn't want to uproot his family (assuming he even can). I expect a buyout is going to be the conclusion for Danny boy.