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Big_Lightnin
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Pain is coming
Joined: 08.12.2010

May 3 @ 12:05 AM ET
(frank) no, they were the only line doing jack poop. Besides Grabo and Reims.
- UsernameUnknown


No idea why Kostka was in the game... and sure as hell don't know why he was let back on the ice after the 2nd goal. Awful. -3, and he owns that - made an instrumental error on all 3 goals.

thankfully he broke his finger diving out of the way when he should have been blocking a hot - won't be in on Saturday.

22 (frank)ing minutes. Carlyle needs to end this love affair - it's ruining his rep.
PERNELL_KARL
Montreal Canadiens
Location: THAT WAS FOR ALL YOU SMURFS IN, QC
Joined: 04.27.2013

May 3 @ 12:05 AM ET
@TSNBobMcKenzie: NHL on TSN officiating analyst Kerry Fraser's take on Gryba hit on Eller: http://t.co/OAZjZuWQUa #CmonRef
- Big_Lightnin

Fraser is alright in my books, don't think I've ever seen him blow a call.
Big_Lightnin
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Pain is coming
Joined: 08.12.2010

May 3 @ 12:06 AM ET
Fraser is alright in my books, don't think I've ever seen him blow a call.
- PERNELL_KARL




when he has 10 or 20 replays he can usually get it right
Big_Lightnin
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Pain is coming
Joined: 08.12.2010

May 3 @ 12:08 AM ET
there's maple bacon...

i could see somebody making vanilla bacon work.

i could see somebody messing it up as well.

- Ottos_Jacket


the maple bacon isn't nearly as good as regular bacon with maple syrup on it...

UsernameUnknown
Seattle Kraken
Location: Gotta' Catch Em All!
Joined: 03.25.2013

May 3 @ 12:08 AM ET
No idea why Kostka was in the game... and sure as hell don't know why he was let back on the ice after the 2nd goal. Awful. -3, and he owns that - made an instrumental error on all 3 goals.

thankfully he broke his finger diving out of the way when he should have been blocking a hot - won't be in on Saturday.

22 (frank)ing minutes. Carlyle needs to end this love affair - it's ruining his rep.

- Big_Lightnin


For sure. And O'Byrne wasn't even playing bad when we had em in.
Why'd we get him in the first place if we aren't gonna play him, and instead give the D-slot to a poopty player?
Fruitcakenipple
Location: NF
Joined: 01.12.2011

May 3 @ 12:15 AM ET
Kings are fooked.....
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

May 3 @ 1:09 AM ET
Detroit wins
NHLWussBeater
Joined: 03.30.2013

May 3 @ 1:48 AM ET
For sure. And O'Byrne wasn't even playing bad when we had em in.
Why'd we get him in the first place if we aren't gonna play him, and instead give the D-slot to a poopty player?

- UsernameUnknown



Agreed O'Bryne was playing awesome for the Leafs why Carlyle went with Kostka I have no idea we need those big bodies, if anything we are missing one more baby sitter in our D core to baby sit Phaneuf.. so we have an offensive component to every pairing and then Fraser, O'Bryne, and 1 more in each so we have a defensive guy in each pairing.

As_I_See_It
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 02.28.2011

May 3 @ 1:50 AM ET
Fraser is alright in my books, don't think I've ever seen him blow a call.
- PERNELL_KARL


Go (frank) yourself.

NHLWussBeater
Joined: 03.30.2013

May 3 @ 3:23 AM ET

I am still upset one of my footie teams just made the Euro final today and they too had horrid officiating bad pen call that required my Eagles to have to score 2 more goals 3 in total in the game just to make the finals in a footie game that is near impossible even at home.

But you can't hold down a good team.

Ferrence got suspended but what good is that 1 game suspension on a repeat offender who intentionally elbowed Grabo in the head, when the Leafs were up 1-0 at the time. A 5 min major and a game misconduct plus a 3 game suspension is what was warranted for a repeat offender.

That 5 min powerplay could've led to a 2 or 3 goal lead and would've had Boston reeling and second guessing themselves, with much to work for, instead it was a game changer. Boston was allowed to come back and score two in the first so instead of being 2 or 3 down at the end of the first they were up 2-1.

Shanahan punished Grabo who is a tough nut to crack and who has played through concussions before. Chara once concussed him twice in one game with head blows that were deemed legal and he still played even though he could not walk and had to crawl off the ice. To say he played on and to lessen the suspension only added insult to the injury. Grabo was bleeding from the bridge of the nose from the impact.

I am growing really tired of the NHL bias against the Leafs, just because we have a great fanbase who supports them even when they lose with full buildings, does not mean advantages should be given out to every small market team or to give other teams a feel good story.

The Leafs play a tough brand of hockey when they are on, and it is getting really tiring watching guys like Orr, McClaren etc get thrown out of games for playing tough, why is it that when Boston, NYR, Ana, Sens, LA play that way it is just good hard hockey but yet when the Leafs play that way, it leads to power plays, and game misconducts when these players are not dirty, they just play tough.

Over the last week we have seen 3 game misconducts for the Leafs two against the Habs, & 1 against the Bruins for nothing. Orr got jacked from the last game for checking a guy who fell before the scrum ensued? Yet Chara earlier in the game in a scrum head cranked a guy to the ground as a 3rd man in and didn't even get a pen for it. Why isn't what is good for the goose good for the gander.

Why are other teams allowed to play tough but the Big Bad Leafs aren't allowed to cleanly play that way.

McClaren got thrown out of the game with the Habs and got a charging pen for hitting a guy from 4 feet away, is it his fault the Midget crumpled so easily, meanwhile Subban repeatedly was skating from across the ice to hit someone and was never penalized. Charging is when you actually come from a long ways away not 4 feet.

It is a dirty double standard.

The officiating crews have been extremely overzealous in jumping in and breaking up the Leafs when they have been playing heavy. White in the Habs game was getting in Orr's face near the end of the game, and as soon as Orr was about to latch on him and give him a season ending concussion the linesman sprinted in grabbed White and dragged him half way across the ice to protect him.

There has been a huge double standard in the NHL, under Quinn in the early years the Leafs had a very fast skilled team & teams like the Devils were allowed to clutch & grab to win Cups and grind us to death. When the Leafs got tougher under Quinn and started to clutch and grab back as well as pound teams all of a sudden clutch and grab was penalized & removed so the skilled teams could prosper.

Bettman's NHL bias has always hurt the Leafs who consistently have a full building win or lose.

Tie Domi got 28 games for a head hit to Neidmayer who had been using his stick to carve up Leafs all series, yet Kaberle who never hurt anyone was concussed by Jansen well after a play like 4 seconds after he was blindsided by Jansen to the head and he only got 8 games.

Suspensions and pens have always been heavy on the Leafs & light on the opponents ever since I started watching in 75.

It has become very annoying, it seems it is open season on any talented Leaf player Kadri, Kessel, Lupul, have taken a pounding this season with many hits to the head never being penalized, yet if we get close to any other teams prima donas the book is thrown at Leaf players.

All we want is fair treatment, not just over a season which is harder to gauge, just game in game out, it always seems to be a double standard.

How many times has Reimer who has had concussion issues been completely run with no penalty called, or interference given. The other day against the Habs I think it was Gallagher but don't quote me, he was hit from behind trying to push him straight out of the play instead he does a 45 contrary to play and takes out Reimer, Leafs got a pen on the play to boot, and if I remember correctly the Habs scored on the ensuing powerplay.

Why is it that Gionta can run Reimer in almost every game, concuss him put him out for most of the season and never be suspended or penalized yet if a Leaf even breathes on a goalie it is interference if he touches him it is a guaranteed suspension.

All I want is some sort of fair playing field, it is hard enough to win games in a very tight and competitive league but when you are not only battling the other team you are also battling the game officials, and the NHL office how could any good team win.

I am not saying the current crop of Leafs is world beating or anything Boston is a good tough team that has tons of playoff experience, but when the benefit of the doubt is constantly going the other way, game in game out, against every team, it has to make you wonder? WTF.

Let's face it the last thing Bettman wants is an all Canadian Final, and with so many teams in financial disability, most of which he brought into the league himself, and others that got very fortuitous bounces along with draft picks when they were about to move elsewhere, one has to question the insanity.

It is not hard to fathom how so many US teams new and old who were in dire straights with their fans have won so many cups over the last decade and a half. They were all Bettman feel good stories, improving his NHL standing in the good ole US where they had to pay to get TV coverage at one point. Now they have big TV contracts, while the Canadian franchises who maintain this league consistently have suffered.

The Canadian teams are the pillars of the league and have brought big tv contracts and fanbases filling buildings for years yet we are treated like second class citizens. Especially in Toronto where we dole out our deserved money to those less fortunate small market teams with their loser fan bases. We pay exponentially way more money to see a game, if we can even get tickets, most of the time we get scalped by scalpers just to attend. Yet we get the NHL horns.

Now I know some of you will look at this post as a conspiracy theory, and I don't personally think there is any over the top match fixing going on, I just think it is a cognitive bias created by the NHL home office and Bettman, with their trying to save small market teams and keep the NHL viable in places it shouldn't be. All the office conversations are about saving these teams in trouble or fan bases for original six who stopped attending it has a trickle down affect throughout the organization so whether overtly or not it has a huge affect throughout the NHL officials and their decisions, whether in a game or not.

At worst they could be pulling some golden whistle footie scenarios like in Europe when clubs bought officials to Ref games and picked officials that had really bad records against certain teams to fix a match.

Having them Ref a game against a team they are extra hard on and history shows that led to many trophies in Europe in their leagues. It doesn't even get a mention in the NHL, but picking who Refs what games makes a huge difference, selecting Refs that are over zealous on hard hitting teams could make a huge difference in a season, as well as having a finesse team and employing Refs that allow hard edgy hitting teams play.

Funny how no one noticed one of the Refs in the last Leaf - Habs game was of French descent, in footie they would never allow that to happen, but in the NHL it is par for the course they are professionals with no cognitive bias.

It never gets a mention here in North America but in Europe it has proven to be game breakers and championship winners for many dirty teams. The penalties never amounted to anything compared to the huge triumphs, look at Serie A the Italian league is still more corrupt than anything and they still haven't gotten it under control and it has been going on for decades.

Anyways like I said these Leafs aren't world beaters and Boston has a good hard team which most of the time plays fairly, all I would like is a level playing field so that the players can decide the games.

I still think the Leafs can take the second game and make a series of it, but Boston is definitely favoured from the start just on talent alone, and had a few bounces gone our way this season we would've topped the division and wouldn't have had to face Boston until later in the playoffs.

Even if we lose to Boston in the first round I still think this season has been a success. Leafs have to still add 4 to 5 players to have a real go at it, too many soft players still hanging around the edges for my liking that aren't highly skilled.

To play Carlyle's system some moves still have to be made, but at least they are headed in the right direction.

All I ask is for fair games, if it is a finesse game don't let our star players be ravaged with dirty hits, and if it is a hard hitting game don't penalize the Leafs for playing that way especially when they are doing it cleanly.

I apologize for the long post, but just had to get it out.

That is my rant for the year.

Thanks







NHLWussBeater
Joined: 03.30.2013

May 3 @ 3:29 AM ET
Go (frank) yourself.
- As_I_See_It


Agreed Fraser was one of the worst Refs ever and hated the Leafs, and was allowed to consistently pervert games against them repeatedly.

I hope he loses all his hair, since that is all that he really cared about.

It still bothers me every time I go on TSN and see him on there.

The other really bad one was Shick (sp?) he used to screw the Leafs large, as well as that donut eating fat boy Koharski.

In the two Ref system it is much harder to prove screw jobs with the Refs as they take it in turn.

But although I wouldn't wish any physical harm, I wish them all to have some crappy lives, where they too get screwed.
Conquest
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 08.06.2010

May 3 @ 3:31 AM ET
No idea why Kostka was in the game... and sure as hell don't know why he was let back on the ice after the 2nd goal. Awful. -3, and he owns that - made an instrumental error on all 3 goals.

thankfully he broke his finger diving out of the way when he should have been blocking a hot - won't be in on Saturday.

22 (frank)ing minutes. Carlyle needs to end this love affair - it's ruining his rep.

- Big_Lightnin


(frank), thank you so much for this post. All of my yes goes to exactly what you said. My girlfriend and I watched the last 3 Leaf games of the regular season and we were both like "Why the (frank) is Kostka still getting ice time?" Granted he played meh, but man oh man was he ever terrible on Wednesday, though really almost if not all of the Leafs were.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

May 3 @ 3:39 AM ET
I am still upset one of my footie teams just made the Euro final today and they too had horrid officiating bad pen call that required my Eagles to have to score 2 more goals 3 in total in the game just to make the finals in a footie game that is near impossible even at home.

But you can't hold down a good team.

Ferrence got suspended but what good is that 1 game suspension on a repeat offender who intentionally elbowed Grabo in the head, when the Leafs were up 1-0 at the time. A 5 min major and a game misconduct plus a 3 game suspension is what was warranted for a repeat offender.

That 5 min powerplay could've led to a 2 or 3 goal lead and would've had Boston reeling and second guessing themselves, with much to work for, instead it was a game changer. Boston was allowed to come back and score two in the first so instead of being 2 or 3 down at the end of the first they were up 2-1.

Shanahan punished Grabo who is a tough nut to crack and who has played through concussions before. Chara once concussed him twice in one game with head blows that were deemed legal and he still played even though he could not walk and had to crawl off the ice. To say he played on and to lessen the suspension only added insult to the injury. Grabo was bleeding from the bridge of the nose from the impact.

I am growing really tired of the NHL bias against the Leafs, just because we have a great fanbase who supports them even when they lose with full buildings, does not mean advantages should be given out to every small market team or to give other teams a feel good story.

The Leafs play a tough brand of hockey when they are on, and it is getting really tiring watching guys like Orr, McClaren etc get thrown out of games for playing tough, why is it that when Boston, NYR, Ana, Sens, LA play that way it is just good hard hockey but yet when the Leafs play that way, it leads to power plays, and game misconducts when these players are not dirty, they just play tough.

Over the last week we have seen 3 game misconducts for the Leafs two against the Habs, & 1 against the Bruins for nothing. Orr got jacked from the last game for checking a guy who fell before the scrum ensued? Yet Chara earlier in the game in a scrum head cranked a guy to the ground as a 3rd man in and didn't even get a pen for it. Why isn't what is good for the goose good for the gander.

Why are other teams allowed to play tough but the Big Bad Leafs aren't allowed to cleanly play that way.

McClaren got thrown out of the game with the Habs and got a charging pen for hitting a guy from 4 feet away, is it his fault the Midget crumpled so easily, meanwhile Subban repeatedly was skating from across the ice to hit someone and was never penalized. Charging is when you actually come from a long ways away not 4 feet.

It is a dirty double standard.

The officiating crews have been extremely overzealous in jumping in and breaking up the Leafs when they have been playing heavy. White in the Habs game was getting in Orr's face near the end of the game, and as soon as Orr was about to latch on him and give him a season ending concussion the linesman sprinted in grabbed White and dragged him half way across the ice to protect him.

There has been a huge double standard in the NHL, under Quinn in the early years the Leafs had a very fast skilled team & teams like the Devils were allowed to clutch & grab to win Cups and grind us to death. When the Leafs got tougher under Quinn and started to clutch and grab back as well as pound teams all of a sudden clutch and grab was penalized & removed so the skilled teams could prosper.

Bettman's NHL bias has always hurt the Leafs who consistently have a full building win or lose.

Tie Domi got 28 games for a head hit to Neidmayer who had been using his stick to carve up Leafs all series, yet Kaberle who never hurt anyone was concussed by Jansen well after a play like 4 seconds after he was blindsided by Jansen to the head and he only got 8 games.

Suspensions and pens have always been heavy on the Leafs & light on the opponents ever since I started watching in 75.

It has become very annoying, it seems it is open season on any talented Leaf player Kadri, Kessel, Lupul, have taken a pounding this season with many hits to the head never being penalized, yet if we get close to any other teams prima donas the book is thrown at Leaf players.

All we want is fair treatment, not just over a season which is harder to gauge, just game in game out, it always seems to be a double standard.

How many times has Reimer who has had concussion issues been completely run with no penalty called, or interference given. The other day against the Habs I think it was Gallagher but don't quote me, he was hit from behind trying to push him straight out of the play instead he does a 45 contrary to play and takes out Reimer, Leafs got a pen on the play to boot, and if I remember correctly the Habs scored on the ensuing powerplay.

Why is it that Gionta can run Reimer in almost every game, concuss him put him out for most of the season and never be suspended or penalized yet if a Leaf even breathes on a goalie it is interference if he touches him it is a guaranteed suspension.

All I want is some sort of fair playing field, it is hard enough to win games in a very tight and competitive league but when you are not only battling the other team you are also battling the game officials, and the NHL office how could any good team win.

I am not saying the current crop of Leafs is world beating or anything Boston is a good tough team that has tons of playoff experience, but when the benefit of the doubt is constantly going the other way, game in game out, against every team, it has to make you wonder? WTF.

Let's face it the last thing Bettman wants is an all Canadian Final, and with so many teams in financial disability, most of which he brought into the league himself, and others that got very fortuitous bounces along with draft picks when they were about to move elsewhere, one has to question the insanity.

It is not hard to fathom how so many US teams new and old who were in dire straights with their fans have won so many cups over the last decade and a half. They were all Bettman feel good stories, improving his NHL standing in the good ole US where they had to pay to get TV coverage at one point. Now they have big TV contracts, while the Canadian franchises who maintain this league consistently have suffered.

The Canadian teams are the pillars of the league and have brought big tv contracts and fanbases filling buildings for years yet we are treated like second class citizens. Especially in Toronto where we dole out our deserved money to those less fortunate small market teams with their loser fan bases. We pay exponentially way more money to see a game, if we can even get tickets, most of the time we get scalped by scalpers just to attend. Yet we get the NHL horns.

Now I know some of you will look at this post as a conspiracy theory, and I don't personally think there is any over the top match fixing going on, I just think it is a cognitive bias created by the NHL home office and Bettman, with their trying to save small market teams and keep the NHL viable in places it shouldn't be. All the office conversations are about saving these teams in trouble or fan bases for original six who stopped attending it has a trickle down affect throughout the organization so whether overtly or not it has a huge affect throughout the NHL officials and their decisions, whether in a game or not.

At worst they could be pulling some golden whistle footie scenarios like in Europe when clubs bought officials to Ref games and picked officials that had really bad records against certain teams to fix a match.

Having them Ref a game against a team they are extra hard on and history shows that led to many trophies in Europe in their leagues. It doesn't even get a mention in the NHL, but picking who Refs what games makes a huge difference, selecting Refs that are over zealous on hard hitting teams could make a huge difference in a season, as well as having a finesse team and employing Refs that allow hard edgy hitting teams play.

Funny how no one noticed one of the Refs in the last Leaf - Habs game was of French descent, in footie they would never allow that to happen, but in the NHL it is par for the course they are professionals with no cognitive bias.

It never gets a mention here in North America but in Europe it has proven to be game breakers and championship winners for many dirty teams. The penalties never amounted to anything compared to the huge triumphs, look at Serie A the Italian league is still more corrupt than anything and they still haven't gotten it under control and it has been going on for decades.

Anyways like I said these Leafs aren't world beaters and Boston has a good hard team which most of the time plays fairly, all I would like is a level playing field so that the players can decide the games.

I still think the Leafs can take the second game and make a series of it, but Boston is definitely favoured from the start just on talent alone, and had a few bounces gone our way this season we would've topped the division and wouldn't have had to face Boston until later in the playoffs.

Even if we lose to Boston in the first round I still think this season has been a success. Leafs have to still add 4 to 5 players to have a real go at it, too many soft players still hanging around the edges for my liking that aren't highly skilled.

To play Carlyle's system some moves still have to be made, but at least they are headed in the right direction.

All I ask is for fair games, if it is a finesse game don't let our star players be ravaged with dirty hits, and if it is a hard hitting game don't penalize the Leafs for playing that way especially when they are doing it cleanly.

I apologize for the long post, but just had to get it out.

That is my rant for the year.

Thanks

- NHLWussBeater




NHLWussBeater
Joined: 03.30.2013

May 3 @ 3:49 AM ET
Just to add to my NHL Bias comment Leafs were originally scheduled for a Tuesday start to the playoffs, which would've had us playing Tuesday, Thursday most likely away, then playing at home on Saturday.

Because of the Boston Bombing the Leafs were pushed to Wednesday start away, and because of the CBC Saturday thing our second game was pushed to a Sat start, considering the Leafs record of long layoffs followed by losses because they are a streaky team it is another huge disadvantage, and pushes our home games till midweek, another advantage doled out by the home office.

Thank you Bettman!
NHLWussBeater
Joined: 03.30.2013

May 3 @ 3:50 AM ET

- Nucker101



Don't get the image of the dude with his hands up? Please do explain.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

May 3 @ 3:53 AM ET
Don't get the image of the dude with his hands up? Please do explain.
- NHLWussBeater


Just messing with ya.
NHLWussBeater
Joined: 03.30.2013

May 3 @ 3:55 AM ET
(frank), thank you so much for this post. All of my yes goes to exactly what you said. My girlfriend and I watched the last 3 Leaf games of the regular season and we were both like "Why the (frank) is Kostka still getting ice time?" Granted he played meh, but man oh man was he ever terrible on Wednesday, though really almost if not all of the Leafs were.
- Conquest


Agreed it was a bad game by most, but what was Kostka doing out there, I appreciate he is a local boy, but having local poopty players is not an advantage, just give me some quiet O'Bryne play and maybe one more of his ilk to balance those offensive Dmen that are poopty in their own zone.

I don't understand at all why Koska a small guy was playing against the Bruins, if I had it my way Liles wouldn't even be in the line-up and Gunnar could get a babysitter too.
NHLWussBeater
Joined: 03.30.2013

May 3 @ 3:56 AM ET
Just messing with ya.
- Nucker101


That's cool, but do you have an opinion on my long post, so we could at least chat about it civilly?
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

May 3 @ 4:01 AM ET
That's cool, but do you have an opinion on my long post, so we could at least chat about it civilly?
- NHLWussBeater



Honestly, I think you were pretty spot on. It's pretty sad that fans of the NHL have almost come to expect and become accustom to such inconsistent officiating. Theres many things that annoy me, like the "playoff hockey" thing, where all of a sudden interference, clutching, cross-checking and grabbing is allowed at times during the last stretch of the regular season and in the playoffs, but then those penalties are randomly called throughout games without any consistency. I don't understand why a professional league would change the way a game is officiated during the post-season. I have watched the NBA and NFL during the regular season and playoffs as well, and the refs in those leagues are also far from perfect but there isn't as much confusion in those leagues from the fans and players on what is and is not considered a penalty(and you can even take that a step further with suspensions and fines).
NHLWussBeater
Joined: 03.30.2013

May 3 @ 4:15 AM ET
Honestly, I think you were pretty spot on. It's pretty sad that fans of the NHL have almost come to expect and become accustom to such inconsistent officiating. Theres many things that annoy me, like the "playoff hockey" thing, where all of a sudden interference, clutching, cross-checking and grabbing is allowed at times during the last stretch of the regular season and in the playoffs, but then those penalties are randomly called throughout games without any consistency. I don't understand why a professional league would change the way a game is officiated during the post-season. I have watched the NBA and NFL during the regular season and playoffs as well, and the refs in those leagues are also far from perfect but there isn't as much confusion in those leagues from the fans and players on what is and is not considered a penalty(and you can even take that a step further with suspensions and fines).
- Nucker101


Totally agree with all your comments, there shouldn't be much of a difference from regular season to playoffs but in the NHL it seems to be a huge step.

I watched that Euro game today semi-finals and the Ref literally gave almost a win to a team who had no business being in the game. It was the softest of handballs, but with the away goals rule it meant my team had to score 2 to win it. They ended up winning 3-1 and there was clear penalty calls the other way 4 of them to be precise, and he didn't call one. A lesser team would've lost.

In Hockey where the competition is much tighter at this level a few of these not so random calls can do much more damage.

I go back to the Leaf game up 1-0 at the time a 5 min major and a game misconduct would've changed the game outright, not saying that Boston still couldn't have won, because the Leafs were pretty poopty later, but it would've been a much different game. One that I dare say the Leafs as poopty as they were could've won.

Very few of the reports of the suspension mention that the Leafs were winning at the time, and a 5 min major & game misconduct could've provided a different result.

Hey we might have lost in a close game, but all we got was the resounding message of Boston's dominance over the Leafs in the last bunch of years. In the end it was quite demoralizing to the team, who was playing cleanly and was competitive till that point.

In the end the one game suspension for an elbow not a shoulder as Shanahan called it, was just adding insult to injury.

The damage is already done and might not be repairable, from that one random non-call, I personally don't think it was random, the Bruins are allowed to get away with more than the Leafs. If that was Orr with the elbow he would be looking at an 8 game suspension and Orr isn't a dirty player he just is a hard hitting tough player who can intimidate.
NHLWussBeater
Joined: 03.30.2013

May 3 @ 4:29 AM ET
Getting tired of Bettman's vision of the NHL it is not a fair landscape, the South East teams for years had much easier regular seasons and an easier playoff route that led to a few cups.

His landscape also screws most Canadian franchises because he knows it won't affect their box office that much because of our diehard support, the exception being the Habs who get away with running goalies consistently, sticks in the air head hunting, and players charging from across the ice with little to no penalties, they are the dirtiest team in the league and have been rewarded for it, and overly protected at times to allow them to continue playing their dirty hockey.

I do appreciate the Habs have some great fans some of which I have a lot of respect for, but their Montreal Midget squad is one of the most disgraceful bunch I have ever seen, dirtier than some crack ho's.

So I feel for the Canadian fans around the country it doesn't shock me that so many of our great teams didn't make the playoffs under Bettman's watch.

It is par for the course in Gary's game.
BlowMonkey
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 08.14.2006

May 3 @ 5:32 AM ET
jesus christ I ain't reading all that.....I'm sure it's quality though.
NHLWussBeater
Joined: 03.30.2013

May 3 @ 6:00 AM ET
jesus christ I ain't reading all that.....I'm sure it's quality though.
- BlowMonkey



Jesus was a good reader and read much more boring doctrine then my diatribe on the current NHL situation things were much harder back in the day, of course in those days reading was on par with gaming for entertainment as only few could afford to. It seems two pages of a novel is beyond most nowadays in this modern world.

Limiting characters as twitter and so many social media outlets do is a way of silencing the future. Controlling the masses, because we live in a democratic society as it is deem fit.

Thank you for not reading, my intent was not to make you think or have your own opinion about it. Clearly my message was for anyone that could get past 1000 characters especially overnight.

But I am sure the Lord High Bettman appreciates any lemmings that might come his way.

I am sure you would have an opinion but reading past 1000 characters is difficult for most nowadays, call it social conditioning.

Keep up the good work, I am sure someone appreciates it.

Thanks for coming out we have a ribbon for you that we give out to everyone that participates because we don't want to alienate anyone, everyone gets the same prize no matter their contribution or lack there of.

You are special in a certain way.
BlowMonkey
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 08.14.2006

May 3 @ 6:20 AM ET
Jesus was a good reader and read much more boring doctrine then my diatribe on the current NHL situation things were much harder back in the day, of course in those days reading was on par with gaming for entertainment as only few could afford to. It seems two pages of a novel is beyond most nowadays in this modern world.

Limiting characters as twitter and so many social media outlets do is a way of silencing the future. Controlling the masses, because we live in a democratic society as it is deem fit.

Thank you for not reading, my intent was not to make you think or have your own opinion about it. Clearly my message was for anyone that could get past 1000 characters especially overnight.

But I am sure the Lord High Bettman appreciates any lemmings that might come his way.

I am sure you would have an opinion but reading past 1000 characters is difficult for most nowadays, call it social conditioning.

Keep up the good work, I am sure someone appreciates it.

Thanks for coming out we have a ribbon for you that we give out to everyone that participates because we don't want to alienate anyone, everyone gets the same prize no matter their contribution or lack there of.

You are special in a certain way.

- NHLWussBeater


meh we all draw attention to ourselves in different ways (I choose bad one line humor and a JJ Walker dynomite walk!) - part of the insecurity of being human and we all sit here and refresh to see if anyone responded to our peacocking....we're here for a narcissistic good time - not a long time.....so have a good time the sun can't shine everyday.
NHLWussBeater
Joined: 03.30.2013

May 3 @ 6:40 AM ET
meh we all draw attention to ourselves in different ways (I choose bad one line humor and a JJ Walker dynomite walk!) - part of the insecurity of being human and we all sit here and refresh to see if anyone responded to our peacocking....we're here for a narcissistic good time - not a long time.....so have a good time the sun can't shine everyday.
- BlowMonkey



Very well said.. kudos.. I retract my knee jerk reaction to your blow hard statement.
It seems you have substance, my apologies.

Although the avatar with the shirt off certainly had its result.
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