Jeropotato
Season Ticket Holder Edmonton Oilers |
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Jeropotato
Season Ticket Holder Edmonton Oilers |
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Joined: 01.03.2013
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Wish we couldve grabbed DeKeyeser. He looks (frank)in awesome out there. Woulda been a good partner for Justin Shultz. - Ihatebrianburke
Yeah, I kinda get a soft pecker for a guy after Clouts raves about him too much tho. Might be biased based on my negative opinion of Clouts judgement though. |
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Jebus CLouts get off the prospect train. Gauthier and Monahan are a couple years away. Do you want to wait 2 or 3 more years to challenge for playoffs so you can get "bigger." And thats if they oan out and are ready to make an ompact in 2 or 3 years. Make the trades that get you immediate help and support the kids you already have. How are you so bad at hockey knowledge? |
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ShooterMcGavin
Detroit Red Wings |
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Location: Stolen Colon, AB Joined: 02.26.2011
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Yeah, I kinda get a soft pecker for a guy after Clouts raves about him too much tho. Might be biased based on my negative opinion of Clouts judgement though. - Jeropotato
DeKeyser is the real deal though, playing 18 minutes a game in every situation and looks very good. Never going to be a big point producer but very solid. |
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Jeffmt
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: ON Joined: 10.11.2006
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http://my.hockeybuzz.com/blog.php?user_id=197300&post_id=14747
Check out the comments.I don't think he will be back anytime soon. - Jeropotato
I've been reading them, I'm dying here |
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Jeropotato
Season Ticket Holder Edmonton Oilers |
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Joined: 01.03.2013
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I've been reading them, I'm dying here - Jeffmt
Ek should hire him to do a 30 team special on how to make a champion |
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Jeffmt
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: ON Joined: 10.11.2006
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Ek should hire him to do a 30 team special on how to make a champion - Jeropotato
Really though, I wouldn't put it past him. But to be fair, I couldn't blame him because I'd read that guy's blog religiously if he had one. That's gold. |
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Jeropotato
Season Ticket Holder Edmonton Oilers |
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Joined: 01.03.2013
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Really though, I wouldn't put it past him. But to be fair, I couldn't blame him because I'd read that guy's blog religiously if he had one. That's gold. - Jeffmt
He would usurp Clouts as the sites resident tard for sure. |
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systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Real men always have to poo, ON Joined: 09.12.2007
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MacT has big plans. Big dreams. Six to eight different players. Sounds ideal, but it's actually kinda not. Teams are not going to cough up what the Oilers need to get better. Going back to that Kings/Blues series...It's a bunch of gorillas out there. Teams don't trade away players like that
Come on Richard Cloutier...don't do this to yourself.
Justin Williams, traded to the Kings. Mike Richards, traded to the Kings. Jeff Carter (traded twice), traded to the Kings. Robyn Regher, traded to the Kings.
Chris Stewart and Kevin Shattmypantsenkirk traded together to the Blues. Jay Bouwmeester, traded to the Blues. Andy McDonald, traded to the Blues. Alex Steen, traded to the Blues.
These guys do get traded. But it takes a GM with the balls and confidence to pull them off. It also requires sacrificing good young pieces and/or 1st round picks. If the players are older, then packages of picks...not other older players who make too much.
There are other players, im sure, but that's just off the top of my head. The problem with your point of view is that you expect to get the Mike Richards type player, or the Christ Stewart/Shattenkirk type but ignore the fact that the price for such players is not Hemsky and a second. It's a combo of 1st round picks, top prospects, good young players. Not over paid veterans with an unfortunate history of injuries. |
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Morris
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: Hall looks disengaged, NS Joined: 07.18.2007
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Richard Cloutier: I Remember the Playoffs Once - Maxbone
It's refreshing to hear you admit you're not a hockey fan. But I still think you might have it wrong.
You're not an Oilers fan. You're a fan of the Oilers winning. And there's a distinction there. |
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Jeropotato
Season Ticket Holder Edmonton Oilers |
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Joined: 01.03.2013
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Come on Richard Cloutier...don't do this to yourself.
Justin Williams, traded to the Kings. Mike Richards, traded to the Kings. Jeff Carter (traded twice), traded to the Kings. Robyn Regher, traded to the Kings.
Chris Stewart and Kevin Shattmypantsenkirk traded together to the Blues. Jay Bouwmeester, traded to the Blues. Andy McDonald, traded to the Blues. Alex Steen, traded to the Blues.
There are other players, im sure, but that's just off the top of my head. The problem with your point of view is that you expect to get the Mike Richards type player, or the Christ Stewart/Shattenkirk type but ignore the fact that the price for such players is not Hemsky and a second. It's 1st round picks, top prospects, good young players. Not over paid veterans with unfortunate history of injuries. - systemtool
You make good points, but the Oilers won't try to make those hit splashes for a few years.the depth changes will come to move us up the standings, that's the goal.
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systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Real men always have to poo, ON Joined: 09.12.2007
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You make good points, but the Oilers won't try to make those hit splashes for a few years.the depth changes will come to move us up the standings, that's the goal. - Jeropotato
Im not saying they will, or should, but I just wanted to clear up Cloutiers misconception that star players/clutch players don't get traded. |
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Ben37
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: One of the Most Respected Hockeybuzz Posters, AB Joined: 04.07.2010
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''the edmonton oilers'' as they called selves are looking like there drowning in oil. The have prospects on the site i find would be helpful to there team, because they have nothing. Nobody works the way they should that leads to one of there problems- shooting the puck and when they do its down low, it should always be crossbar high no exceptions. so this is small piece of writing in my perspective i have to tell all who is good and who completely needs to hit the road.
- staying
Nugent hopkins
Taylor hall
Sam ganger
Jordan eberle
magnus paajarvi
Nail yakupov
Justin schultz
- going
Jeff petry (trade bait with hemesky to boston for defense)
Ryan whitney(free agent)
Nick schultz
Ryan smith (should retire
Ben eager (should head off with petrell for 4th round)
Eric belanger (him and horcoff for 3rd round
Shawn horcoff (belanger and him for 4th round)
Ales hemesky (trade bait, Hemesky and Petry to Boston)
Jerred smithson (buy out)
Lennart petrell ( go with eager for 4th round)
Anton lander (2nd round pick)
This is the first look at what should happen as people say a rebuild is necessary
heres the second look,
Ladislav smid & mike brown for Jonathon Bernier (L.A goaltender, rumor he is on the move)
Dubnyk & Fistric for dougie hamilton(boston defenseman) or drew doughty (L.A defenseman)
Buyout on Andy Sutton
and then in the next year it would have to do with
-Corey Potter for 6th round draft pick
-Ewanyk, Moroz, Musil and Gernat coning up from the oil kings which would add size to the oilers
-draft curtis Lazar or Hunter Shinkaruk from Medicine Hat
-bring up Klefbom, Maricin, Kyle Bigos, Alex Plante, taylor fedun, Eric Gustafsson and Daniil zaharov not to mention Brandon Davidson
-bring up Kale Kessy and Curtis hamilton thats all you need
it should look like this
1st line
-Hall -Hopkins -Eberle
-Bigos -Marincin
2nd line
- Zaharov - Ganger -Yakupov
-Klefbom - Gustafsson
3rd line
- Moroz - Ewanyk - Kessy
- Gernat - Musil
4th line
-Hartikainen - Lazar - Paajarvi
-Doughty -Fedun
goaltending
J.Bernier (starting)
T.Bunz (backup)
F.tuohimaa (see where he fits)
This is what i would have anybody else that i did not include like schultz is for a trade.
have a good day. - Jeropotato
You play a lot of NHL13 don't you. |
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He would usurp Clouts as the sites resident tard for sure. - Jeropotato
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laughs2907
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: Wuhan, China Joined: 07.18.2006
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OilerFanFromBC
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: Victoria, BC Joined: 01.23.2012
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I really like the idea of drafting Monahan. He's perfect but how long would it before he's ready? I say:
-Draft Monahan(If he's gone, Nurse or Zadorov!)
-Assuming we take the center, trade Gagner for Gormley or if possible Yandle
-Trade Hemsky for a late 1st (if we're lucky) or 2nd rounder
-Trade N. Schultz for a pick and/or 3rd line scoring winger
-Sign Clarkson or Horton
-Sign a faceoff guy like Gordon
-Re-Sign Jones
-Use Hemsky's old payroll on Streit and sign him to a 2yr 5m per contract
-Use that pick from Hemsky on Comrie or Fucale
Hall / Nugent-Hopkins / Eberle
Yakupov / Monahan / Clarkson
Paajarvi / Horcoff / Hartikainen
Jones / Gordon / Brown
Streit / J. Schultz
Gormley / Petry
Klefbom / Smid
Idk how this works cap-wise but it's probably fine and I like the idea this also allows Klefbom to ease into the NHL a little more |
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DTF69
Atlanta Thrashers |
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Location: I lied to get some white people on my side, AB Joined: 02.03.2010
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Im not saying they will, or should, but I just wanted to clear up Cloutiers misconception that star players/clutch players don't get traded. - systemtool
Yeah, almost the entire Kings roster, especially the "heavy" players, were primarily acquired through trade or FA. Scuderi, Greene, Stoll, Richards, Carter, Williams, Penner, Fraser, King, Regehr, Greene, Mitchell, Ellerby.
The Blues are a lot more home grown.
The big difference is that both the Kings and the Blues drafted well enough that they had enough spare parts to move. The Oilers haven't really had a pick turn out, after the first round, since Petry who is pretty average most nights.
Every team has 3 or 4 of their own Abney's and Ewanyk's and Moroz's and their Rajala's and Omark's.
Basically the Oilers need to be ready to trade anyone who isn't Hall, Yakupov and Schultz. |
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nayefj
Colorado Avalanche |
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Location: Colorado/Qatif, Saudi Arabia/القطيف Joined: 02.04.2010
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DarcyTucker16
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: St.Albert, AB Joined: 06.24.2011
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shoulda been watching the blues kings game not chicago... that was a great playoff game... i could care less about either team but i was excited anyway |
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Morris
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: Hall looks disengaged, NS Joined: 07.18.2007
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Come on Richard Cloutier...don't do this to yourself.
Justin Williams, traded to the Kings. Mike Richards, traded to the Kings. Jeff Carter (traded twice), traded to the Kings. Robyn Regher, traded to the Kings.
Chris Stewart and Kevin Shattmypantsenkirk traded together to the Blues. Jay Bouwmeester, traded to the Blues. Andy McDonald, traded to the Blues. Alex Steen, traded to the Blues.
These guys do get traded. But it takes a GM with the balls and confidence to pull them off. It also requires sacrificing good young pieces and/or 1st round picks. If the players are older, then packages of picks...not other older players who make too much.
There are other players, im sure, but that's just off the top of my head. The problem with your point of view is that you expect to get the Mike Richards type player, or the Christ Stewart/Shattenkirk type but ignore the fact that the price for such players is not Hemsky and a second. It's a combo of 1st round picks, top prospects, good young players. Not over paid veterans with an unfortunate history of injuries. - systemtool
This is all very true. Although, I find the Richards and Carter to CBJ trades to be interesting, as they both put Cloutier in his place, and suggest that it's VERY plausible to bring in such a player without trading one of the so-called untouchables.
Carter trade: 8th overall, Voracek, 3rd round pick
Roughly equivalent to: 7th overall, Gagner, 3rd round pick
Richards trade: Brayden Schenn, Wayne Simmonds, 2nd round pick
Roughly equivalent to: Oskar Klekbom, Paajarvi+Hartikainen, two 2nds.
Thanks for putting Cloutier in his place. But the argument your argument entails is of course food for though. |
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Jeffmt
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: ON Joined: 10.11.2006
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I really like the idea of drafting Monahan. He's perfect but how long would it before he's ready? I say:
-Draft Monahan(If he's gone, Nurse or Zadorov!)
-Assuming we take the center, trade Gagner for Gormley or if possible Yandle
-Trade Hemsky for a late 1st (if we're lucky) or 2nd rounder
-Trade N. Schultz for a pick and/or 3rd line scoring winger
-Sign Clarkson or Horton
-Sign a faceoff guy like Gordon
-Re-Sign Jones
-Use Hemsky's old payroll on Streit and sign him to a 2yr 5m per contract
-Use that pick from Hemsky on Comrie or Fucale
Hall / Nugent-Hopkins / Eberle
Yakupov / Monahan / Clarkson
Paajarvi / Horcoff / Hartikainen
Jones / Gordon / Brown
Streit / J. Schultz
Gormley / Petry
Klefbom / Smid
Idk how this works cap-wise but it's probably fine and I like the idea this also allows Klefbom to ease into the NHL a little more - OilerFanFromBC
You guys have to stop throwing all your first round picks into the NHL straight out of junior. Sooner or later it's going to bite you in the ass. |
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Clouts needs to stop regurgitating the same blog over and over again as conversation here is seriously getting bland. Write about prospects that you know nothing about or something other than this same old garbage that you have been for what seems like 2 months now! And how about talking about more than our 7th overall? Talk about our 2nd rounders and who you'd like picked then. Maybe mention our current prospects in more than a passing glance on an "available" list.
And to you mouth breathers that keep saying the same poop: (frank) the hell off! No one gives a damn for the last time! He only mentioned the 6 usual untouchables and all I read for the first page is "11 untouchables? You'll never win!". He said they were likely staying! Not that they were untouchable! Goddam it! I'm sick of this same (frank)ing trash every goddam blog!!! Can we get a second blogger that supports new and creative conversation as opposed to this swill! For (frank)s sake! |
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Come on Richard Cloutier...don't do this to yourself.
Justin Williams, traded to the Kings. Mike Richards, traded to the Kings. Jeff Carter (traded twice), traded to the Kings. Robyn Regher, traded to the Kings.
Chris Stewart and Kevin Shattmypantsenkirk traded together to the Blues. Jay Bouwmeester, traded to the Blues. Andy McDonald, traded to the Blues. Alex Steen, traded to the Blues.
These guys do get traded. But it takes a GM with the balls and confidence to pull them off. It also requires sacrificing good young pieces and/or 1st round picks. If the players are older, then packages of picks...not other older players who make too much.
There are other players, im sure, but that's just off the top of my head. The problem with your point of view is that you expect to get the Mike Richards type player, or the Christ Stewart/Shattenkirk type but ignore the fact that the price for such players is not Hemsky and a second. It's a combo of 1st round picks, top prospects, good young players. Not over paid veterans with an unfortunate history of injuries. - systemtool
Are we still best friends? My advanced stats are telling me so |
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OilerFanFromBC
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: Victoria, BC Joined: 01.23.2012
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You guys have to stop throwing all your first round picks into the NHL straight out of junior. Sooner or later it's going to bite you in the ass. - Jeffmt
Thats why I mentioned and wondered if he is ready or not. I dont think Hall and Yak were rushed though. Both had solid seasons as rookies and look where Hall is now. Nuge had a good rookie season too but we'll see where this injury, due to his size, will take him... |
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