- wilsonecho91

You have to hand it to the Philly guys....they're the only ones still drinking at 3 AM on a Tuesday.

Lets go Islanders. Yes it is a fact that Penguins got a better team than Islanders. Everyone on the planet knows that so no need to argue with that. But we still will kick your behind!

Why are they even talking about Fleury. If Fleury has a breakdown like he did last year it doesn't even matter. Vokoun is not Brent Johnson. In order for the Islanders to have even a remote chance, they have to play 5 on 5 and hope to get a powerplay here or there. If they take penalties it's going to get even uglier really fast.
- kencan98

Fleury only breaks down when the opposing team has ginger power (Hartsy, G, Voracek on the Flyers, you see?). Isles lack that ginger power, if I'm not mistaken.

and strangely enough, I go on the penguins page today and the comments are filled with islanders trolls.

it goes both ways.
- SuperHenderson13

Not one "troll" comment on there. Actually good convo btn the fans.

well that's because we took actual talent with our picks and not Rick Dipietro.
- SuperHenderson13

Now you're going to far, don't bring up RDP

on paper the penns have way more talent, so they did in 93/94 with lemieux, coffee stevens and barraso. somehow the isles hung in there and shocked the iglo with the OT goal by Volek.. dont know about this series.. if i compare we miss a few grinders like flatley thomas and hogue but he you never know look at the kings or look how fast the penns went home last year vs the flyers.. time will tell .. cant wait.. one thing Ido know s that the Isles haveto bring the play to the penns and dont sit and wait to see what they are going to do.. score first is a must..

it's laughable about the fact that the penguins won the cup for more reasons than one or two drafts? call me crazy, but shouldn't EDM have cups now based on that logic?

just because someone disagrees with you, doesn't mean that they are a bandwagon jumper.
- SuperHenderson13

Yes and also by that logic the islanders should be winning the presidents trophy every year with all their picks in the last decade.

Like you said it takes more than a one sided approach. The pens are the pens because of drafting, development, trades and coaching with a few ufas mixed in. The isles are all draft and suck at it. Without the mixture of everything it's hard to win.

Now you're going to far, don't bring up RDP
- Cptmjl

Can I ask a serious question, because honestly I remember LOVING Ricky DP when I was younger, like 12-13. But that was 6-7 years ago. So I'm willing to imagine that I wasn't that in tune with acknowledge good goaltending. Did he deserve that contract? His stats don't scream "throw me a boatload", but like I said, he was my favorite goalie for a few years.

on paper the penns have way more talent, so they did in 93/94 with lemieux, coffee stevens and barraso. somehow the isles hung in there and shocked the iglo with the OT goal by Volek.. dont know about this series.. if i compare we miss a few grinders like flatley thomas and hogue but he you never know look at the kings or look how fast the penns went home last year vs the flyers.. time will tell .. cant wait.. one thing Ido know s that the Isles haveto bring the play to the penns and dont sit and wait to see what they are going to do.. score first is a must..
- NYIslesNY

Yeah a few grinder LIKE THE WHOLE TEAM.

The only one you can compare is turgeon and JT. The rest of the team there's no comparison. Isles fans need to stop bringing up 93. It makes us look dumb.

Can I ask a serious question, because honestly I remember LOVING Ricky DP when I was younger, like 12-13. But that was 6-7 years ago. So I'm willing to imagine that I wasn't that in tune with acknowledge good goaltending. Did he deserve that contract? His stats don't scream "throw me a boatload", but like I said, he was my favorite goalie for a few years.
- GirouxForTheShow

The contract was a risk. He was developing it seemed but it was a huge risk none the less. If he turned out to be even a top 15 goalie in the league it could've been a good contract. We all know how that turned out. I was never a fan honestly, didn't like his style of play

Yeah a few grinder LIKE THE WHOLE TEAM.

The only one you can compare is turgeon and JT. The rest of the team there's no comparison. Isles fans need to stop bringing up 93. It makes us look dumb.
- kencan98

Yes and also by that logic the islanders should be winning the presidents trophy every year with all their picks in the last decade.

Like you said it takes more than a one sided approach. The pens are the pens because of drafting, development, trades and coaching with a few ufas mixed in. The isles are all draft and suck at it. Without the mixture of everything it's hard to win.
- kencan98

Listen, I get what you're saying, and I'm not gonna argue with your points cause on the whole you're right.

But you got 1st overall the year SIDNEY FRANKING CROSBY was draft eligible, and heaven forbid when you ended up with Geno Malkin with the 2nd overall.

My point is, as much as you have points, the Pens aren't absolutely brilliant for selecting who they did and developing them. They were studs, and they were gonna be studs regardless who picked them.

Can I ask a serious question, because honestly I remember LOVING Ricky DP when I was younger, like 12-13. But that was 6-7 years ago. So I'm willing to imagine that I wasn't that in tune with acknowledge good goaltending. Did he deserve that contract? His stats don't scream "throw me a boatload", but like I said, he was my favorite goalie for a few years.
- GirouxForTheShow

As with any employee of any company he deserves less than he brings in. Did he bring in more than he got? Not even close. Because of that, from a business standpoint the contract was dumb.

On a hockey level I don't even think I need to explain.

Listen, I get what you're saying, and I'm not gonna argue with your points cause on the whole you're right.

But you got 1st overall the year SIDNEY FRANKING CROSBY was draft eligible, and heaven forbid when you ended up with Geno Malkin with the 2nd overall.

My point is, as much as you have points, the Pens aren't absolutely brilliant for selecting who they did and developing them. They were studs, and they were gonna be studs regardless who picked them.
- GirouxForTheShow

Crosby and Malkin were not drafted in the same year. The pens already had Fleury and Malkin before Crosby. Staal came next.

Crosby and Malkin were not drafted in the same year. The pens already had Fleury and Malkin before Crosby. Staal came next.
- kencan98

? I don't know how you inferred that was what I meant by what I said. I didn't mean consecutive picks in the same year or even consecutive picks in general.

? I don't know how you inferred that was what I meant by what I said. I didn't mean consecutive picks in the same year or even consecutive picks in general.
- GirouxForTheShow

Welcome to the wonderful world of kencan

Welcome to the wonderful world of kencan
- Cptmjl

I was going to again ask you a serious question, if I should even bother, but you beat me to the punch.

I was going to again ask you a serious question, if I should even bother, but you beat me to the punch.
- GirouxForTheShow

Yeah, your best bet is to let that one go.

Yeah a few grinder LIKE THE WHOLE TEAM.

The only one you can compare is turgeon and JT. The rest of the team there's no comparison. Isles fans need to stop bringing up 93. It makes us look dumb.
- kencan98

Turgeon was not active when the Isles played the Pens (damn Dale Hunter ). As I said before, there isn't a huge separation in terms of 'talent' between those two teams. Each had three 30 goal scorers, but this years team actually had more players on pace to break 20. This years team has a better goaltender. While 1993's team had scrappy dmen who played the game with passion, you could argue that guys like Vis and Streit actually have more natural talent than any of them. In addition, that 1993 Pens team was one of the most deadly of all time in the NHL, better than this team.

Keaner....check your PMs

Turgeon was not active when the Isles played the Pens (damn Dale Hunter ). As I said before, there isn't a huge separation in terms of 'talent' between those two teams. Each had three 30 goal scorers, but this years team actually had more players on pace to break 20. This years team has a better goaltender. While 1993's team had scrappy dmen who played the game with passion, you could argue that guys like Vis and Streit actually have more natural talent than any of them. In addition, that 1993 Pens team was one of the most deadly of all time in the NHL, better than this team.
- keaner17

Looking through the comments from last night. It seems you have made a new friend? Maybe Kasper and I can start our own little reality series? I was thinking of calling it "If Keaner can't then maybe Kencan?".

Morning Fella!!!

? I don't know how you inferred that was what I meant by what I said. I didn't mean consecutive picks in the same year or even consecutive picks in general.
- GirouxForTheShow

You said "Sidney Crosby was draft eligible and heaven forbid you end up with Geno with the second overall".

I was just reading and responding to what you said. Reread your post.

Why are they even talking about Fleury. If Fleury has a breakdown like he did last year it doesn't even matter. Vokoun is not Brent Johnson. In order for the Islanders to have even a remote chance, they have to play 5 on 5 and hope to get a powerplay here or there. If they take penalties it's going to get even uglier really fast.
- kencan98

The task is daunting, but not impossible. Truth is, every year we see an upset or two in the playoffs. 8's have beaten 1's before. The Kings won the cup last years as an 8, knocking off 1, 2 and 3 in the West along the way. The Isles will have to play near perfect for there to even be a chance for an upset, but it is possible. If the isles depth guys chip in offensively and play super physical and Nabby outplays Fleury, there's a chance.

On another note, if I was Cappy, i'd be making every d-man on the team watch a tape of Kasparaitis and Pilon and how they played against Lemieux and Jagr 20 years ago.

Turgeon was not active when the Isles played the Pens (damn Dale Hunter ). As I said before, there isn't a huge separation in terms of 'talent' between those two teams. Each had three 30 goal scorers, but this years team actually had more players on pace to break 20. This years team has a better goaltender. While 1993's team had scrappy dmen who played the game with passion, you could argue that guys like Vis and Streit actually have more natural talent than any of them. In addition, that 1993 Pens team was one of the most deadly of all time in the NHL, better than this team.
- keaner17

So now we can only talk about the "Snow Era" Islanders and the exact roster of the 93 Isles only when they played the pens in the playoff series?

The 93 Isles and this years team aren't even in the same category and to compare them makes our entire fanbase look stupid. It's things like this (and thinking every one of our prospects is Gretzky, and plenty of other things) that make us the laughing stock of the league.