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Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Apr 30 @ 12:39 PM ET
Oh man. I thought I drank too much this weekend and was hallucinating. But I woke up this morning and it's true, we're playing the Islanders.

keaner got his wish.

How has it been troll wise this weekend? I haven't backread any blogs...

- canadianpenfan

look no further
LetsGoIsles
New York Islanders
Location: I'll wait till Halak signs elsewhere and then you can go eat a d!ck- JMO16
Joined: 01.26.2011

Apr 30 @ 12:39 PM ET
Who is our goalie that takes over after Nabby leaves?

Unfortunately we are a bubble team, if that, if we don't get a long term solution in net pretty quickly. From what I've seen, we don't have one in our system. That may turn but as of right now, I don't see it.

- kencan98



there are 3 prospects in the system, will 1 turn out? i dk maybe, maybe not. it could be a problem, but CERTAINLY a very fixable problem. im certainly not going to write the team off bc nabby may become a ufa....there will be UFAs available and trades to be made.

its not fair to ask who will take over once nabby leaves and then as of now there is no solution...of course there isnt a solution!!! we have nabby!!! once it becomes an issue, then there will have to be a solution...
kencan98
Joined: 07.11.2009

Apr 30 @ 12:39 PM ET
But they didnt like anyone at 5 so they did the right thing.... Acquired more picks, moved down and drafted the guy they liked and wanted... You cannot blame them for that. Now if they took Bailey at 5 then that would support your argument more but they didnt.
- Bags502


I can't blame them for picking the guy they wanted. But we can all blame them when the guy they wanted ALWAYS turns out to be not as good as they think.

At least if they pick at 5 and take someone who is close to that selection, they made the pick that a lot of other teams would have made. And I'd rather them follow what some other, more successful teams have been doing because what they've done in the past hasn't worked.
keaner17
New York Islanders
Location: Prepared for the worst
Joined: 07.12.2007

Apr 30 @ 12:40 PM ET
Who is our goalie that takes over after Nabby leaves?

Unfortunately we are a bubble team, if that, if we don't get a long term solution in net pretty quickly. From what I've seen, we don't have one in our system. That may turn but as of right now, I don't see it.

- kencan98


Likely Anders Nilsson who is going to be a damn good NHL goalie. If Nabby isn't around next year, we probably take the free agent route. We've done pretty well there lately when considering Rolo and Nabby....
LetsGoIsles
New York Islanders
Location: I'll wait till Halak signs elsewhere and then you can go eat a d!ck- JMO16
Joined: 01.26.2011

Apr 30 @ 12:41 PM ET
time will tell for sure but you guys are in the playoffs right now because nabakov has been great for you this year, on top of your scoring obviously. but i feel that nabakov has really given your team some confidence to make plays and has won you guys some games.

will he still be at that level in 3 years for you guys to compete? what if he just falls off the map next season...do you guys even make the playoffs then?

- rangerdanger94



and what if henrik gets hit by a car?

so according to you, since nabby may not be with the team in 4-6 years, the team will always be a bubble playoff team...youre saying he is irreplaceable and you cant possibly come up with a potential solution to this problem???
kencan98
Joined: 07.11.2009

Apr 30 @ 12:41 PM ET
im certainly not going to write the team off bc nabby may become a ufa....there will be UFAs available and trades to be made.

then there will have to be a solution...

- LetsGoIsles


When has that ever happened?

The last time was Osgood in 2001. Every other time has been either a prospect or a second rate career backup who was marginal at best playing for us.
LetsGoIsles
New York Islanders
Location: I'll wait till Halak signs elsewhere and then you can go eat a d!ck- JMO16
Joined: 01.26.2011

Apr 30 @ 12:42 PM ET
No. Not even close. But I think to most that's pretty obvious.
- kencan98



read above.
kencan98
Joined: 07.11.2009

Apr 30 @ 12:42 PM ET
youre saying he is irreplaceable and you cant possibly come up with a potential solution to this problem???
- LetsGoIsles


Yup. They've haven't done it in recent history so why would anyone think they'll be able to pull it off now?
canadianpenfan
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Calgary
Joined: 05.13.2010

Apr 30 @ 12:42 PM ET
look no further
- Cptmjl



Hey look at you, finally splurged for an avatar. Wtf is it? A fish?
keaner17
New York Islanders
Location: Prepared for the worst
Joined: 07.12.2007

Apr 30 @ 12:43 PM ET
The comparison to the Pens rebuilds is a joke.
Pittsburgh ended up with two Hart Trophy winners and a franchise goaltender. Guys like Crosby come along once every 20+ years. Malkin is a franchise player on his own. Then Mario returns, free agents take interest, the team gets a new stadium...everything fell right into place for that franchise. We haven't had near those type of opportunities.
LetsGoIsles
New York Islanders
Location: I'll wait till Halak signs elsewhere and then you can go eat a d!ck- JMO16
Joined: 01.26.2011

Apr 30 @ 12:43 PM ET
I remember back in 2001 or 02 Pittsburgh regularly sent out Billy (convict) Tibbets for regular shifts, he was far from they're worst player too.

Cubbard was bare there, they have gotten lucky twicw with franchise trophy picks(gifts)

- B2B76



exactly!!!!

and even without those gifts the islanders are still pretty much on par with where the penguins were at this point in their (penguins) rebuild...
keaner17
New York Islanders
Location: Prepared for the worst
Joined: 07.12.2007

Apr 30 @ 12:43 PM ET
Hey look at you, finally splurged for an avatar. Wtf is it? A fish?
- canadianpenfan

rangerdanger94
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 05.23.2010

Apr 30 @ 12:43 PM ET
there are 3 prospects in the system, will 1 turn out? i dk maybe, maybe not. it could be a problem, but CERTAINLY a very fixable problem. im certainly not going to write the team off bc nabby may become a ufa....there will be UFAs available and trades to be made.

its not fair to ask who will take over once nabby leaves and then as of now there is no solution...of course there isnt a solution!!! we have nabby!!! once it becomes an issue, then there will have to be a solution...

- LetsGoIsles

i really hope your GM doesn't share that logic of "we should only fix it once it's a problem".

you need to plan ahead, otherwise you get screwed. a goalie can take 4-5 years to develop before they're ready to play. your GM should already be looking at options in net after Nabby unless you wanna go back to rotating al montoya and dipietro in net for another half a decade.

if the rangers followed that logic and signed prust to a 2.5 mil a year deal (and not worry about the cap situation until it was an issue), then we'd be forced to give up on one of mcdonagh, stepan, or hagelin this offseason because we couldn't afford them.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Apr 30 @ 12:43 PM ET
I'm very happy about it. I'm also very realistic about it and I'm hoping the team has learned from it's mistakes and don't repeat them.

I don't think that's too much to ask. Of course, I'm insulted by others for thinking that way but it is what it is.

- kencan98

Oh poor you. You came on here insulting every single person on here calling us all idiots and morons. Procaiming how we were all insults to the franchise yet we are insulting you? A good example of "he started it"
kencan98
Joined: 07.11.2009

Apr 30 @ 12:43 PM ET
look no further
- Cptmjl


Yeah that's me. I'm the one getting insulted by 90% of the board. Not the other way around.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Apr 30 @ 12:44 PM ET
Why was the 5 pick not made?

BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T JUST MAKE THE PICK AND DEVELOP THE PROSPECT.

Which was my original point that you were asking about.

- kencan98


So they dropped down 4 spots (missing out on superstars L. Schenn, Nikita Filatov, Colin Wilson, and Mikael Boedker), and were able to add a 2nd round pick in 2008 (Aaron Ness), the 72nd and 102nd pick in 2008 (Jyri Niemi and David Ullstrom ), the top picks in the 3rd and 4th round in 2009 (Anders Nilsson and Casey Cizikas).

Basically, they dropped down 4 spots, were able to add a 2nd round pick, 2 3rd round picks, and 2 4th round picks. Given that the 4 players taken in the spots they moved down haven't amounted to much, that's a deal any team would make any day of the week.
LetsGoIsles
New York Islanders
Location: I'll wait till Halak signs elsewhere and then you can go eat a d!ck- JMO16
Joined: 01.26.2011

Apr 30 @ 12:44 PM ET
When has that ever happened?

The last time was Osgood in 2001. Every other time has been either a prospect or a second rate career backup who was marginal at best playing for us.

- kencan98



again, if you want to live in the past go for it.
kencan98
Joined: 07.11.2009

Apr 30 @ 12:44 PM ET
Oh poor you. You came on here insulting every single person on here calling us all idiots and morons. Procaiming how we were all insults to the franchise yet we are insulting you? A good example of "he started it"
- Cptmjl


Quote one post of mine that calls someone an idiot. Then when you can't find it, go back and look at all the things people said about me.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Apr 30 @ 12:44 PM ET
Hey look at you, finally splurged for an avatar. Wtf is it? A fish?
- canadianpenfan

I believe it's a striped bass? It was a friends idea.
LetsGoIsles
New York Islanders
Location: I'll wait till Halak signs elsewhere and then you can go eat a d!ck- JMO16
Joined: 01.26.2011

Apr 30 @ 12:45 PM ET
Yup. They've haven't done it in recent history so why would anyone think they'll be able to pull it off now?
- kencan98



thats just childish cannon
kencan98
Joined: 07.11.2009

Apr 30 @ 12:46 PM ET
So they dropped down 4 spots (missing out on superstars L. Schenn, Nikita Filatov, Colin Wilson, and Mikael Boedker), and were able to add and 2nd round pick in 2008 (Aaron Ness), the 72nd and 102nd pick in 2008 (Jyri Niemi and David Ullstrom ), the top picks in the 3rd and 4th round in 2009 (Anders Nilsson and Casey Cizikas).

Basically, the dropped down 4 spots, were able to add a 2nd round pick, 2 3rd round picks, and a 4th round pick. Given that the 4 players taken in the spots they moved down haven't amounted to much, that's a deal any team would make any day of the week.

- jmatchett383


Did you (or anyone) know how any of that would have turned out 5 years later?

No.

What is the most likely way it would play out?

The guy picked at 5 would be an NHL player and the guy picked in the third round won't ever crack a line up.
rangerdanger94
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 05.23.2010

Apr 30 @ 12:46 PM ET
and what if henrik gets hit by a car?

so according to you, since nabby may not be with the team in 4-6 years, the team will always be a bubble playoff team...youre saying he is irreplaceable and you cant possibly come up with a potential solution to this problem???

- LetsGoIsles

no i'm saying that time will tell but you guys should be praying that your GM is already looking at goalie options. it's pretty obvious nabby doesn't have too many years left and do you seriously think you'd be in the playoffs if dipietro or al montoya was in net all season long?

again, maybe....but probably not.

you can't compare the isles to Pitt. Pitt's 2nd line center in Malkin is better than your first line center in JT. then they also had jordan staal who could be a first line center on half the teams in the league. Crosby - Malkin - Staal with a young Fleury in net is a lot different than JT - Josh Bailey - ??? and an over the hump nabakov whos gonna retire soon which leaves you with DiPietro or Al Montoya in net.
LetsGoIsles
New York Islanders
Location: I'll wait till Halak signs elsewhere and then you can go eat a d!ck- JMO16
Joined: 01.26.2011

Apr 30 @ 12:46 PM ET
The comparison to the Pens rebuilds is a joke.
Pittsburgh ended up with two Hart Trophy winners and a franchise goaltender. Guys like Crosby come along once every 20+ years. Malkin is a franchise player on his own. Then Mario returns, free agents take interest, the team gets a new stadium...everything fell right into place for that franchise. We haven't had near those type of opportunities.

- keaner17



and yet, there is light at the end of the tunnel....

no one thinks the 2 rebuilds are the same exact, pens had it delivered to the them on a silver platter...islanders had to work for it.

pens were better but the isles arent that far behind and considering they havent had those gifts given to them (outside of JT) id say theyre doing alright...
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Apr 30 @ 12:46 PM ET
Quote one post of mine that calls someone an idiot. Then when you can't find it, go back and look at all the things people said about me.
- kencan98

Dude, I don't need to go back. I as well as everyone else clearly remembers you calling us idiots for not agreeing with you about Boyes. Stop the BS. I don't need to go back. I have nothing to do at work today but I can still find beeter things to do. Besides, you'll ignore those posts like you do with everyone you are called out for or are WRONG about.
kencan98
Joined: 07.11.2009

Apr 30 @ 12:47 PM ET
thats just childish cannon
- LetsGoIsles


Not childish at all. History repeats itself unless you learn from the mistakes and change. They've never done it in the past and there's no reason why we should think they'll do it in the future.
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