So take out Vanek's +46 one season and you get a minus player, Nash does much more than Vanek
- sbroads24

they get paid to put up points, they do it equally as well.

Thomas Vanek would not have come close to doing what Rick Nash did in Columbus playing with the players Rick Nash played with.

People complain about Vanek playing with Roy, Pominville, Stafford, Briere, and Drury... I would love to see him play with Zherdev, Umberger, Brassard, Vyborny, Vermette.

What did Nash do when he played on a good Rangers team this year? Oh he was a plus player? That completely surprises me.

What was Vanek's plus/minus when he was on a non-playoff Sabres team? Oh he was a minus player? That completely surprises me.
- theblueandgold

Vanek would have been a -27 with Columbus and a +16 with the Rangers the same way Nash has been. Again, it's a bad contract no doubt but I think he's played well especially in comparison to what some other players are being payed. Even if the Sabres had given him a more reasonable deal when his contract was up, what did you think was going to happen? The moment he hit free agency again he'd take one look at Gaborik's contract and say I'll take that one darcy!

they get paid to put up points, they do it equally as well.
- Homer

And one player does is consistently and the other does it for a few games at a time, Vanek goes scoreless in 42% of games played, that's awful for your best player

So take out Vanek's +46 one season and you get a minus player, Nash does much more than Vanek
- sbroads24

Vans a great goal scorer. BUT how many are goals where HE shot the puck vs deflecting or tapping a rebound. I would Love to have a natural goal scorer. To many dirty goals . Seems ruff preached that all the time . "need to score goals from the dirty places"

I want a player that can shoot from top of the faceoff circle and score. Vanek can be that type of player from the slot .

Round 1:
WEST
Chicago in 4
Anahaim in 6
Vancouver in 7
Los Angeles in 6

EAST
Pittsburg in 5
Montreal in 6
Washington in 7
Boston in 5

And one player does is consistently and the other does it for a few games at a time, Vanek goes scoreless in 42% of games played, that's awful for your best player
- sbroads24

which means he gets points in bunches, what does it matter? At the end of the day its the same.

And one player does is consistently and the other does it for a few games at a time, Vanek goes scoreless in 42% of games played, that's awful for your best player
- sbroads24

I'd tell you whose fault that is but it would just remind me of how he's staying on for one more year and now I'm going to start crying

Vans a great goal scorer. BUT how many are goals where HE shot the puck vs deflecting or tapping a rebound. I would Love to have a natural goal scorer. To many dirty goals . Seems ruff preached that all the time . "need to score goals from the dirty places"

I want a player that can shoot from top of the faceoff circle and score. Vanek can be that type of player from the slot .
- cabin

We don't have anyone that can do what Vanek does in the dirty areas. Once we get that player who can do that Vanek can play in the slot

While I like Nash, I don't like him at 7.8 mil.


That's 1.8 to much.


Anything over 6 mil per and you should be top 3 at that position.
- dadeadhead

It seems that supply and demand automatically forces teams to pay players 15-20% more than they are worth. Polarizing the fans and forcing teams to trade them.

which means he gets points in bunches, what does it matter? At the end of the day its the same.
- Homer

Stafford.

which means he gets points in bunches, what does it matter? At the end of the day its the same.
- Homer

Because hes not a difference maker every night. If I'm paying someone 7M+ he better show up every night.

Round 1:
WEST
Chicago in 4
Anahaim in 6
Vancouver in 7
Los Angeles in 6

EAST
Pittsburg in 5
Montreal in 6
Washington in 7
Boston in 5
- Smittyx36

Detroit in 6 (Anaheim is overrated)
NYR in 7 (Like the way the've been playing lately)
St. Louis in 6 (I just like them more and think they're a better team)

Haven't you been sued for using that picture before?
- dadeadhead

threatened

We don't have anyone that can do what Vanek does in the dirty areas. Once we get that player who can do that Vanek can play in the slot
- Smittyx36

Seems what the team is missing .

Detroit in 6 (Anaheim is overrated)
NYR in 7 (Like the way the've been playing lately)
St. Louis in 6 (I just like them more and think they're a better team)
- Sabresfan-365

I think the days of Detroit winning playoff rounds are over... St Louis is overrated and I could see the Washington/NYR go either way.

threatened
- homiedclown

Good old PeckerFan

It seems that supply and demand automatically forces teams to pay players 15-20% more than they are worth. Polarizing the fans and forcing teams to trade them.
- Buffalo--Sabres

And sets the stage for the topics every day on here.


I blame Myers

We don't have anyone that can do what Vanek does in the dirty areas. Once we get that player who can do that Vanek can play in the slot
- Smittyx36

I'd trade Vanek for a player like Hossa, Kovalchuk, Stamkos, Nash who score their goals in skill ways rather than deflections and greasy rebounds like Vanek.

Because hes not a difference maker every night. If I'm paying someone 7M+ he better show up every night.
- theblueandgold

it makes no difference if you get a point a game for 82 straight games or 2 points a game for 41 games and get blanked the 41.

which means he gets points in bunches, what does it matter? At the end of the day its the same.
- Homer

It matters. Take the end of the season a few years ago when Vanek ended up with 28 goals. He had a brutal year, we were eliminated from the playoffs. He ended the year by scoring 4 of the 28 goals in the last meaningless game against Ottawa. He needs to be there more between games 35-75 not just the first 20 and the last 20

I'd trade Vanek for a player like Hossa, Kovalchuk, Stamkos, Nash who score their goals in skill ways rather than deflections and greasy rebounds like Vanek.
- theblueandgold

Vanek can do both... Problem is he is out in the dirty areas to often because he is the only player on the team that can actually produce well in those areas.

Vanek is underrated offensively but overrated overall if that makes sense

Because hes not a difference maker every night. If I'm paying someone 7M+ he better show up every night.
- theblueandgold

Which if you watch Nash play that's exactly what he is. The Rangers best player most nights

I'd trade Vanek for a player like Hossa, Kovalchuk, Stamkos, Nash who score their goals in skill ways rather than deflections and greasy rebounds like Vanek.
- theblueandgold

so now he isn't skilled?

Have you seen his shootout goals? Van scores plenty of filthy goals, I'd rather have a guy who can score any way. Great deke, great shot or dirty goals.

so now he isn't skilled?

Have you seen his shootout goals? Van scores plenty of filthy goals, I'd rather have a guy who can score any way. Great deke, great shot or dirty goals.
- Homer

I don't hate Vanek. He is one of the more skilled players in the league. When he is hot he is better than most players in the league, its the games he's not that are a problem. There are way too many "cold streaks" for him

Which if you watch Nash play that's exactly what he is. The Rangers best player most nights
- sbroads24

Yet Van had 1 less point in 6 less games played than Nash.