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FLYERSROCK!
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Anyone who takes Andrew MacDonald's contract will instantly become my 3rd favourite team, SK
Joined: 09.09.2008

Apr 27 @ 4:13 AM ET
Quoted for truth...

they will never ice a healthy team at the rate they're at. If they were so lucky to draft Jones this year they'd be foolish enough to play him the following. And so the cycle continues until they get traded and cry, or they leave on their own accord and the fans cry.

- 93Matty

Getting tough now Leaf fans because you made the postseason finally in a short season?
93Matty
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 06.06.2012

Apr 27 @ 4:13 AM ET
An Avs fan talking poop about the Oilers? Really?
You're the worst run organization in the NHL. Get the (frank) outta here you lame ass troll
Traded a top pairing dman and a promising PWF for the biggest bust of a 1st overall pick in the past decade and Duncan Siemens

Named a 19 year old your captain, just totally said (frank) you to Duchene
i could go on and on
Get the (frank) outta here

- FLYERSROCK!



So says a confused Flyers fan... how many trades does it take to ice a functioning team ? I guess we'll see next year.... or the one after that....

talk about saying Frack you to players, you guys sign and trade like you're buying and selling slaves.
BigDre
Edmonton Oilers
Location: The only thing we win is a trophy for our captain who attends gay pride parades- Lahey, AB
Joined: 01.09.2012

Apr 27 @ 4:14 AM ET
I'm just happy that EDM is not drafting in the top 5. Enough is enough ffs.
- Blue Leaves


what do you care, your team is in the playoffs...
93Matty
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 06.06.2012

Apr 27 @ 4:14 AM ET
Getting tough now Leaf fans because you made the postseason finally in a short season?
- FLYERSROCK!



I'd be pis$ed too if I didnt make it this season... I understand. Thanks for JVR, you sure did improve your teams defence.
MisterC
Colorado Avalanche
Location: OR
Joined: 11.15.2012

Apr 27 @ 4:14 AM ET
An Avs fan talking poop about the Oilers? Really?
You're the worst run organization in the NHL. Get the (frank) outta here you lame ass troll
Traded a top pairing dman and a promising PWF for the biggest bust of a 1st overall pick in the past decade and Duncan Siemens

Named a 19 year old your captain, just totally said (frank) you to Duchene
i could go on and on
Get the (frank) outta here

- FLYERSROCK!


Says a person who roots for what can only be called the absolutely shiattiest team and fans in all of any sport? City of Brotherly Love my arse. More like a town full of cretins, idiots and imbeciles who like to brother it up in the bathrooms together. Maybe they can change the slogan to "City of Brotherly Glory Holes"
deadsector
Edmonton Oilers
Location: sherwood park, AB
Joined: 01.08.2013

Apr 27 @ 4:15 AM ET

- Blue Leaves

Mighty fine photographs... Ah that reminds me...

Look at this photograph, everytime i do it makes me sad
how did your eyes get so red? and what the hell is over perry's head?
this is where you whent to school, lockers full of pictures of sunden and you
holding up foam mugs, shaped like lord stanley cup
thats as close as you'll ever be because like leafs fallin from a maple tree
you're gonna get swept in four and you'll never hold the lord

look at this photograph, every time i do it makes me laugh
why are leafs fans so ___...
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Apr 27 @ 4:16 AM ET
HOW can you possibly defend your 18 year olds being rushed into the NHL ? They were brought in to sell jerseys and give some sort of odd hope to the fans. Keep rushing the kids, and I'm sure magic will happen. Hall came in too early, and needed to add weight to his frame for the style he plays. Also Nuge should have had surgery after being drafted to repair his shoulder if it was that bad. These effects can seriously stint growth ... But hey, I'm no DR ...
- 93Matty

your entire premise is flawed.

the point of saying u rushed a kid is that u may have damaged or slowed is development. hall was on pace for over 30 goals last year and had 53 pts in 60 games for fuk sakes. and hes top ten in scoring and a dominant player in his third year. kinda missed the boat on that one didnt ya??

nuge actually improved his defensive game, even with the down offensive numbers. after potting 50 in 60 as a rookie

yaks has been one of our best players in the last month and is clearly figuring out the pro game. i think his prospects look very good long term

we're not talking some 2nd rounder or even a top ten pick. we're talking about bluechip first overalls. how many have been sent down in the past decade by any team?

terrible post
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Apr 27 @ 4:17 AM ET
Says a person who roots for what can only be called the absolutely shiattiest team and fans in all of any sport? City of Brotherly Love my arse. More like a town full of cretins, idiots and imbeciles who like to brother it up in the bathrooms together. Maybe they can change the slogan to "City of Brotherly Glory Holes"
- MisterC

holy fuk you're a douche.
MisterC
Colorado Avalanche
Location: OR
Joined: 11.15.2012

Apr 27 @ 4:18 AM ET
your entire premise is flawed.

the point of saying u rushed a kid is that u may have dmaged or slowed is development. hall was on pace for over 30 goals last year and had 53 pts in 60 games for fuk sakes. and hes top ten in scoring and a dominant player in his third year.

nuge actually improved his defensive game, even with the down offensive numbers. after potting 50 in 60 as a rookie

yaks has been on eof our best players in the last month and is clearly figuring out the pro game. i think his prospetc slook very good long term

we're not talking some 2nd rounder or even a top ten pick. we're talk about bluechip first overalls. how many have been sent down in the past decade?

terrible post

- hugefemale dog77


How many surgeries will Nuge need on his shoulder before he can't play anymore?
BigDre
Edmonton Oilers
Location: The only thing we win is a trophy for our captain who attends gay pride parades- Lahey, AB
Joined: 01.09.2012

Apr 27 @ 4:19 AM ET

- Blue Leaves


Shoot me
93Matty
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 06.06.2012

Apr 27 @ 4:19 AM ET
your entire premise is flawed.

the point of saying u rushed a kid is that u may have dmaged or slowed is development. hall was on pace for over 30 goals last year and had 53 pts in 60 games for fuk sakes. and hes top ten in scoring and a dominant player in his third year.

nuge actually improved his defensive game, even with the down offensive numbers. after potting 50 in 60 as a rookie

yaks has been on eof our best players in the last month and is clearly figuring out the pro game. i think his prospetc slook very good long term

we're not talking some 2nd rounder or even a top ten pick. we're talk about bluechip first overalls. how many have been sent down in the past decade?

terrible post

- hugefemale dog77



And where did all of that get you ? My point is , and I'll break it down for you. There was no need to rush the kids into the NHL because your team wasn't ready to compete at a level where they were needed. Not that they couldnt produce in the NHL. 5 years from now they may still be producing at the same clip they are today, however the ware and tare on their bodies wasn't worth the time spent tanking.
MisterC
Colorado Avalanche
Location: OR
Joined: 11.15.2012

Apr 27 @ 4:20 AM ET
holy fuk you're a douche.
- hugefemale dog77


My team and Denver isn't known for beating the mother of living christ out a cop and his friend for going to a game either. Maybe you should go buy some Summer's Eve and get your vag freshened up yourself there "bro".
abware
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Just Fuching with you guys! Oilers > than Flames! K-man25
Joined: 01.26.2010

Apr 27 @ 4:20 AM ET
holy fuk you're a douche.
- hugefemale dog77

Couldn't have said it better myself.
ystoil
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton
Joined: 02.26.2011

Apr 27 @ 4:21 AM ET
your entire premise is flawed.

the point of saying u rushed a kid is that u may have dmaged or slowed is development. hall was on pace for over 30 goals last year and had 53 pts in 60 games for fuk sakes. and hes top ten in scoring and a dominant player in his third year.

nuge actually improved his defensive game, even with the down offensive numbers. after potting 50 in 60 as a rookie

yaks has been on eof our best players in the last month and is clearly figuring out the pro game. i think his prospetc slook very good long term

we're not talking some 2nd rounder or even a top ten pick. we're talk about bluechip first overalls. how many have been sent down in the past decade?

terrible post

- hugefemale dog77


Good post. Lots of people think gaining weight has to do with weight lifting. 80% diet. If nuge eats a ton this summer, even if he's rehabbing the shoulder, he should still be able to put on weight.
deadsector
Edmonton Oilers
Location: sherwood park, AB
Joined: 01.08.2013

Apr 27 @ 4:21 AM ET
Or Nichushkin will fall because of the "Russian Factor" so we
can snatch that mother(frank)er right up.

- MaximumBone


Thats likely enough to be honest, only thing wrong with nichushkin is that i can't spell his name unles i'm lookin at it. But you're right he's one big ass mean mother(beeper) be good to have either of them on the team. I'd suggest getting two first round picks in the top ten. Trade ganger and get one, do whatever it takes and then try and get both of them. If you're right and he falls, and i'm right that barkov might slip a bit we could get both of them with the 7th and 10 picks maybe. wouldn't a second line of nichushkin barkov yakupov kick ass? It's a nice dream anyway.
BigDre
Edmonton Oilers
Location: The only thing we win is a trophy for our captain who attends gay pride parades- Lahey, AB
Joined: 01.09.2012

Apr 27 @ 4:24 AM ET
HOW can you possibly defend your 18 year olds being rushed into the NHL ? They were brought in to sell jerseys and give some sort of odd hope to the fans. Keep rushing the kids, and I'm sure magic will happen. Hall came in too early, and needed to add weight to his frame for the style he plays. Also Nuge should have had surgery after being drafted to repair his shoulder if it was that bad. These effects can seriously stint growth ... But hey, I'm no DR ...
- 93Matty


They're 1st overall picks, most 1st overall picks walk right into the bigs, they all have an adjustment period, and it's usually a few years. Hall is a beast, if Ebs can fine-tune his shot to stop missing by 3 inches he'll be back to scoring 30g a season. I'm really not worried about the kids, i'm worried about bringing in guys who can't help them when a team figures them out.
93Matty
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 06.06.2012

Apr 27 @ 4:24 AM ET
Good post. Lots of people think gaining weight has to do with weight lifting. 80% diet. If nuge eats a ton this summer, even if he's rehabbing the shoulder, he should still be able to put on weight.
- ystoil



Just hope he doesnt turn into Kyle wellwood...

Nuge could bulk up even while rehabbing the shoulder, its true. It'll be harder but not impossible.
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Apr 27 @ 4:24 AM ET
And where did all of that get you ? My point is , and I'll break it down for you. There was no need to rush the kids into the NHL because your team wasn't ready to compete at a level where they were needed. Not that they couldnt produce in the NHL. 5 years from now they may still be producing at the same clip they are today, however the ware and tare on their bodies wasn't worth the time spent tanking.
- 93Matty

the point is to try and win. in case u hadnt noticed, those kids are our best players. they just have no help or insulation from quality vets. they ARENT the problem.
(and of course uve noticed the oilers struggles--that's why you're here trolling)

we shouldve sent our first overalls down because of the WEAR and TEAR of the nhl??

is this serious?
deadsector
Edmonton Oilers
Location: sherwood park, AB
Joined: 01.08.2013

Apr 27 @ 4:25 AM ET
Good post. Lots of people think gaining weight has to do with weight lifting. 80% diet. If nuge eats a ton this summer, even if he's rehabbing the shoulder, he should still be able to put on weight.
- ystoil


Putting on weight isn't the same thing as putting on muscle, but i understand your point. However if RNH eats lots, but doesn't train he'll have the wrong kind of weight. He'll be fine though, he'll never be the biggest guy but he will be one of the smartest.
ystoil
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton
Joined: 02.26.2011

Apr 27 @ 4:26 AM ET
And where did all of that get you ? My point is , and I'll break it down for you. There was no need to rush the kids into the NHL because your team wasn't ready to compete at a level where they were needed. Not that they couldnt produce in the NHL. 5 years from now they may still be producing at the same clip they are today, however the ware and tare on their bodies wasn't worth the time spent tanking.
- 93Matty


So Tampa should've sent back stamkos? They made it to the conference finals on a good run once and have been bad every other year in his 5 years. I realize every player is different but how does a player improve If they go back and dominate the league they dominated as an 18 year old? You need challenges to improve and develop. Now if they could've been sent to the ahl, then there is merit to that strategy. Unfortunately not the case
93Matty
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 06.06.2012

Apr 27 @ 4:27 AM ET
They're 1st overall picks, most 1st overall picks walk right into the bigs, they all have an adjustment period, and it's usually a few years. Hall is a beast, if Ebs can fine-tune his shot to stop missing by 3 inches he'll be back to scoring 30g a season. I'm really not worried about the kids, i'm worried about bringing in guys who can't help them when a team figures them out.
- BigDre



Thats the biggest need for you guys, not defence, you need guys to increase your size in the top 9. It's mostly Hall and Nuge. Hall's a difference type of blue chip, he plays far more of a PF type then a playmaking type. He needed to bulk up. It's looking like Nuge needed surgery between jr's and the NHL. Another year would have done him well.

HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Apr 27 @ 4:27 AM ET
Just hope he doesnt turn into Kyle wellwood...

Nuge could bulk up even while rehabbing the shoulder, its true. It'll be harder but not impossible.

- 93Matty

he's a far, far better skater than kyle wellwood is. there's zero concern over that one
93Matty
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 06.06.2012

Apr 27 @ 4:28 AM ET
So Tampa should've sent back stamkos? They made it to the conference finals on a good run once and have been bad every other year in his 5 years. I realize every player is different but how does a player improve If they go back and dominate the league they dominated as an 18 year old? You need challenges to improve and develop. Now if they could've been sent to the ahl, then there is merit to that strategy. Unfortunately not the case
- ystoil



Stamkos is a different player, and he didnt come out of Jr's injured. Hall's far more gritty and needed size to play his game. Stamp's shot and release is why he jumped right in. Also Tampa's need to sell the same bs concept that the Oilers did, they're a very desperate team ...
93Matty
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 06.06.2012

Apr 27 @ 4:29 AM ET
he's a far far better skater than kyle wellwood is. there's zero concern over that one
- hugefemale dog77



I was just joking, wellwood being a fat bastard en all
ystoil
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton
Joined: 02.26.2011

Apr 27 @ 4:31 AM ET
Putting on weight isn't the same thing as putting on muscle, but i understand your point. However if RNH eats lots, but doesn't train he'll have the wrong kind of weight. He'll be fine though, he'll never be the biggest guy but he will be one of the smartest.
- deadsector


Doing legs releases the most growth hormone which can help add size and muscle elsewhere. He can still develop more lower body strength and size (once he can move the arm lol)
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