You pick one.
- laughs2907

people are 50/50 trade pick or pick one pf them.

You pick one.
- laughs2907

I would be torn. Depends who went ahead of them.
I'm against trading the first. There is still not enough prospect depth. I think we need to draft and let the player develop.
We can find the upgrades we need through trade or UFA.

people are 50/50 trade pick or pick one pf them.
- AlEx_OiL

Not a question with an easy answer. I feel that way because the Oilers don't need maybe help in a couple years. They need someone next season. The losing culture simply can't continue. All the picks and prospects in the world won't change that.

This is one of those difficult decisions that have been discussed that Edmonton fans may not enjoy.

You pick one.
- laughs2907

Even if Nurse is available?

It is simultaneously with great regrets and high hopes that I send this message to you, my fellow Eternians.

I regret the shame that I have brought on not only myself, but my family and to my kingdom. It would be easy for me to shirk responsibility for my current circumstances and blame them on many of the events and pressures of my past, as so many others in my position do.

Indeed, it was only to help protect my father’s kingdom that I began taking steroids and other growth hormones. When I saw how they were enhancing my body, I began giving them to my cat, and got him hooked as well. It was through the strength, power, and rage that the steroids afforded us that Cringer and I became the protectors of Eternia that you all know as Battle Cat and He-Man. And, it was by the power of steroids that we were able to fend off the forces of Skeletor, and Hordak and the Horde.

I cannot begin to express the disgrace I feel in knowing that I have duped my fellow Eternians into believing that the superhuman protector watching over them was not superhuman at all, but a degenerate drug addict. It was only blind luck and the good graces of Grayskull that I was never killed or that none of my friends were. When I think about how easily all of those battles could have gone horribly wrong because of my selfishness, lies, and ego, I shudder.

It was this guilt and the troubles that come with a dysfunctional family that sent me to other drugs. Marijuana was my drug of choice, being so readily available around Eternia. I’d just loom it up until I was numb. But I’d also hit whatever Orko would conjure up for me back in Trolla. The little guy couldn’t conjure a fart after eating a can of beans on Eternia, but he was a master back on Trolla. He’d often bring me hard stuff. I’d snort something called cocaine, and occasionally mainline something he called heroin.

I simply knew of no other way to cope.

I had learned that my arch-nemesis, and the would-be usurper of my father’s throne, Skeletor, was actually my father’s brother–my uncle–Keldor. I learned that I had a long lost twin sister named Adora, or She-Ra as she was also known, who was kidnapped by Hordak when she was a kid and taken to another planet called Etheria. And, I never could shake the rumors that my mother, Queen Marlena, wasn’t actually my mother at all, but that the Sorceress of Castle Grayskull was, which would make Adora my twin half-sister and give me a second half-sister: Teela. (The lies need to stop, Duncan. Teela deserves the truth.)

You see, my fellow Eternians, it would be easy to blame my addiction on my family environment and upbringing. It would be easy to claim that I am a victim of circumstance, but I will not do that. I will not insult you by making light of the seriousness of this problem.

This demon–this monster–is every bit as real as the demons and monsters I have faced many times in the past, yet even more dangerous. Trust me when I say that I would sooner face Beast Man, Trap Jaw, Skeletor or even Hordak before facing this. But face this I must.

So, it is with high hopes that, during my stay here, I will conquer this monster as I have those others in the past and have continued to do so up until this morning. It is my sincere hope that, once I am cured, I can truly be not only the hero that Eternia deserves, but also a role model to her children.

By the power of Grayskull, I will be victorious.

Humbly yours,
Prince Adam

http://landofthepigs.word...to-steroids-harder-drugs/

I would be torn. Depends who went ahead of them.
I'm against trading the first. There is still not enough prospect depth. I think we need to draft and let the player develop.
We can find the upgrades we need through trade or UFA.
- Iggysbff

If you're against trading away an unknown pick, how will you feel about one of Eberle, Yakupov, Nuge, Schultz etc. being moved? Because the kind of help Edmonton needs isn't available through free agency this year and will not be had in a trade if they offer up Hemsky, MPS, and even Gagner. They need a REAL top pairing guy and a REAL top 6 forward (maybe even two) that play with some nasty. Neither thing grows on trees, and the reality is neither will be had cheaply. Prospect depth should be the last thing on our minds right now.

Even if Nurse is available?
- whipper334

Its a difficult choice to make, but we're going to be breaking in Klefbom some time soon, so an 18 year old D doesnt make much sense in the short term.

Did Team Canada announce its roster yet?

If you're against trading away an unknown pick, how will you feel about one of Eberle, Yakupov, Nuge, Schultz etc. being moved? Because the kind of help Edmonton needs isn't available through free agency this year and will not be had in a trade if they offer up Hemsky, MPS, and even Gagner. They need a REAL top pairing guy and a REAL top 6 forward (maybe even two) that play with some nasty. Neither thing grows on trees, and the reality is neither will be had cheaply. Prospect depth should be the last thing on our minds right now.
- sanfordnson

http://www.capgeek.com/free-agents

Its a difficult choice to make, but we're going to be breaking in Klefbom some time soon, so an 18 year old D doesnt make much sense in the short term.
- Jack-artist

Fair enough!

Not a question with an easy answer. I feel that way because the Oilers don't need maybe help in a couple years. They need someone next season. The losing culture simply can't continue. All the picks and prospects in the world won't change that.

This is one of those difficult decisions that have been discussed that Edmonton fans may not enjoy.
- sanfordnson

Shattenkirk should be a trade target if he's truly available.

http://www.capgeek.com/free-agents
- laughs2907

I don't see a lot on there that helps them, especially anyone that they wouldn't drastically overpay to get here.

So Gagner doesn't warrant a 1st...but Pavelski does?
- sanfordnson

ah, yes. pavelski is >>> gagner. it's not a contest. different league.


you need to give to get. be bold or forever be the team that could have been.

tavares, toews, sid, etc., are not big rough and tumble but they're not afraid to go to the dirty areas. pavelski does. gags does not.

ah, yes. pavelski is >>> gagner. it's not a contest. different league.


you need to give to get. be bold or forever be the team that could have been.

tavares, toews, sid, etc., are not big rough and tumble but they're not afraid to go to the dirty areas. pavelski does. gags does not.
- therealagent

Ever wonder if Gagner was on a different team that he might get a little more respect and props than he currently does? Gagner was willing to drop the gloves with Beauchemin and Dillon. He goes to greasy areas all the time. I have no idea where you get this idea.

I will grant you that Pavelski is probably better right now, but Gagner is also 5 years younger and is probably just starting to enter into his best years. He hasn't anywhere near the team to play with that Pavelski has had. The notion that Gagner, an established top 6 NHLer, isn't worth even a late 1st is probably one of the most ludicrous things I see continually pop up on here.

ah, yes. pavelski is >>> gagner. it's not a contest. different league.


you need to give to get. be bold or forever be the team that could have been.

tavares, toews, sid, etc., are not big rough and tumble but they're not afraid to go to the dirty areas. pavelski does. gags does not.
- therealagent

You are stupid if you believe that.

Ever wonder if Gagner was on a different team that he might get a little more respect and props than he currently does? Gagner was willing to drop the gloves with Beauchemin and Dillon. He goes to greasy areas all the time. I have no idea where you get this idea.

I will grant you that Pavelski is probably better right now, but Gagner is also 5 years younger and is probably just starting to enter into his best years. He hasn't anywhere near the team to play with that Pavelski has had. The notion that Gagner, an established top 6 NHLer, isn't worth even a late 1st is probably one of the most ludicrous things I see continually pop up on here.
- sanfordnson

Gagner would get a late 1st rounder all day long.

Gagner would get a late 1st rounder all day long.
- whipper334

A team would give up even a mid for him in a heartbeat. The odds of that mid or late pick being as good are small.

Shattenkirk should be a trade target if he's truly available.
- Reveen

Yep. Paajarvi, gagner, both seconds , and something else (a b prospect) for berglund and shattenkirk. Thoughts?

Ever wonder if Gagner was on a different team that he might get a little more respect and props than he currently does? Gagner was willing to drop the gloves with Beauchemin and Dillon. He goes to greasy areas all the time. I have no idea where you get this idea.

I will grant you that Pavelski is probably better right now, but Gagner is also 5 years younger and is probably just starting to enter into his best years. He hasn't anywhere near the team to play with that Pavelski has had. The notion that Gagner, an established top 6 NHLer, isn't worth even a late 1st is probably one of the most ludicrous things I see continually pop up on here.
- sanfordnson

i said before he's like turris. he needs an address change. he's the guy who you'll get a good return for. hemsky is permiter. if SJ offered you that deal, it would be done by any gm in the world.

Ever wonder if Gagner was on a different team that he might get a little more respect and props than he currently does? Gagner was willing to drop the gloves with Beauchemin and Dillon. He goes to greasy areas all the time. I have no idea where you get this idea.

I will grant you that Pavelski is probably better right now, but Gagner is also 5 years younger and is probably just starting to enter into his best years. He hasn't anywhere near the team to play with that Pavelski has had. The notion that Gagner, an established top 6 NHLer, isn't worth even a late 1st is probably one of the most ludicrous things I see continually pop up on here.
- sanfordnson

Oilers suck Gagner is a midget and isn't good at anything but lucky points.


Comparable players with less production are far more valuable due to obvious things we will not quantify here.


Die.

A team would give up even a mid for him in a heartbeat. The odds of that mid or late pick being as good are small.
- sanfordnson

Exactly! Why is there so much chatter about trading him? I thought he was playing quite well this year.

Exactly! Why is there so much chatter about trading him? I thought he was playing quite well this year.
- whipper334

He's the most confoundingly underrated player in the lineup.

Yep. Paajarvi, gagner, both seconds , and something else (a b prospect) for berglund and shattenkirk. Thoughts?
- ystoil

I think St.Louis snickers a bit then hangs up the phone.

i said before he's like turris. he needs an address change. he's the guy who you'll get a good return for. hemsky is permiter. if SJ offered you that deal, it would be done by any gm in the world.
- therealagent

Which deal?

i said before he's like turris. he needs an address change. he's the guy who you'll get a good return for. hemsky is permiter. if SJ offered you that deal, it would be done by any gm in the world.
- therealagent

Cept he's been far more productive than Turris and is playing the best hockey of his career now, in Edmonton.


Why he needs a change of scenery to spark things for him is beyond me.