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JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Apr 26 @ 11:38 AM ET
You've been on the 'Briere Must Go!' bandwagon since you started posting here...we get it. But instead of being happy that he's probably outta here, you're now harping on other posters' points of view that he's been a good soldier while he's been here, and that it's not enough that he earned his keep (for the most part) in the playoffs.

We're all frustrated about missing the playoffs, man.

- tangent_man

Yes, sir.
Philly1980
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.30.2011

Apr 26 @ 11:39 AM ET
You've been on the 'Briere Must Go!' bandwagon since you started posting here...we get it. But instead of being happy that he's probably outta here, you're now harping on other posters' points of view that he's been a good soldier while he's been here, and that it's not enough that he earned his keep (for the most part) in the playoffs.

We're all frustrated about missing the playoffs, man.

- tangent_man


DANNY B SUCKS---and there my friend sis your playoff master
vejim
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: FL
Joined: 07.08.2007

Apr 26 @ 11:39 AM ET
If you go back, this all started because another poster said he's been a big part of the organization for the past few years. I went back and changed it to "hasn't been a big part" because he hasn't other than his massive payroll hit. Several like to focus on the goalie and what he makes, sorry I found something more relevant and deserving of criticism.
- JoeRussomanno

this thread is getting worse than the Flyers locker room
coffee junkie
Joined: 02.25.2007

Apr 26 @ 11:40 AM ET
Bob
- Marc D

while obviously sarcastic if we had bob playing like he is now all season we would be in the PIs. Not that goaltending is the issue but with those numbers we would have more points so.....yeah! Blame Bob!
FlyersGrace
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Pronger "Play the game puffnuts!" , DE
Joined: 07.02.2012

Apr 26 @ 11:41 AM ET
It's funny you guys will bring up Jeff carter and rag on him but this guy is guilty of more egregious lack of production yet he's a saint.
- JoeRussomanno

Yep I did a jig when Carter left and you can do one when Briere goes.
Different strokes. Each player had a reason to walk out the door. Briere just doesn't punch my personal rage button like some of the others.
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Apr 26 @ 11:42 AM ET
Relax, I'm just piling it on.

Briere's been a stud for years in a Flyers uniform, but it's time to move on from him when they have the chance. His cap hit is the sword that slays his remaining time here in Philly. If he wasn't playing out of position, I wouldn't move him. But he can't play wing, and I can't stand to see Couturier play on the fourth line again.

- KGBflyers10


Stud. Like in the locker room when the boys are all naked and sweaty and...



Don'tForgetTocchet
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ground Zero Brooklyn
Joined: 02.08.2007

Apr 26 @ 11:43 AM ET
I wouldn't judge Miller too much by how he acts in New York's version of Pittsburgh.

We used to have an emotionally charged guy in the nets in Philadelphia in the late 80's and mid 90's and I remember he was pretty popular here.

- johndewar



ugh i dunno he comes off as a big annoying whiner
FlyersGrace
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Pronger "Play the game puffnuts!" , DE
Joined: 07.02.2012

Apr 26 @ 11:43 AM ET
this thread is getting worse than the Flyers locker room
- vejim

How would you know?
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Apr 26 @ 11:43 AM ET
If we're going to put the brunt of the blame on Lavi for problems at ES, shouldn't we also turn around and give him credit for their utter dominance on the PP and PK?

Maybe he's had Couturier on a short leash, and he hasn't managed to juice everything possible out of guys like Hartnell/Briere/Coburn, but doesn't he get credit for stewarding the assurgent play of guys like Voracek, Simmonds, and Luke Schenn?

Maybe he deserves some criticism for the way he's handled goalies in the past, but shouldn't we now give him credit for the way he's eased Mason into the net with eye-popping results?

I mean, let's be fair... Lavi's had the cards stacked against him from day one... short training camp, no time to practice, players fatigued/distracted/out-of-shape from lockout, mass injuries, key subtractions with no additions... all that has to be taken into account, too.

If I were giving Lavi a grade for the season, I'd say a solid C. Not good, but what he's done in the past makes him deserving of a shot at redemption under more favorable circumstances, IMO.

- Tomahawk

I guess that is debatable and really boils down to what is discussed between him and Holmgren. Because to me if he's not willing to adapt what he does to the cards he's dealt, then he has to go. If he can do the adatping when called for I suppose one more shot aint gonna hurt. However I'd rather move in another direction.
Philly1980
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.30.2011

Apr 26 @ 11:43 AM ET
Yep I did a jig when Carter left and you can do one when Briere goes.
Different strokes. Each player had a reason to walk out the door. Briere just doesn't punch my personal rage button like some of the others.

- FlyersGrace


iwas like

O NO THEY DIDNT
FlyersGrace
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Pronger "Play the game puffnuts!" , DE
Joined: 07.02.2012

Apr 26 @ 11:44 AM ET
Stud. Like in the locker room when the boys are all naked and sweaty and...




- wolfhounds

I threw up a little. Thanks...

And I usually appreciate this kinda thing!
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Apr 26 @ 11:44 AM ET
If you go back, this all started because another poster said he's been a big part of the organization for the past few years. I went back and changed it to "hasn't been a big part" because he hasn't other than his massive payroll hit. Several like to focus on the goalie and what he makes, sorry I found something more relevant and deserving of criticism.
- JoeRussomanno

I think he has been a big part of the franchise, both for on ice reasons (largely in the postseason) and for reasons you've crassly insulted people for considering. Nobody is claiming he's been perfect, but... y'know what? Whatever. You're coming across just like those very 'Bryz haters' you're invoking in this post.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Apr 26 @ 11:44 AM ET
Yeah, but that's neither Briere's fault, nor solely a Briere issue. And did those clauses stop us from getting the players we targeted this summer?
- BulliesPhan87

I agree with you
I'm just making free associations, trying to move things along
vejim
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: FL
Joined: 07.08.2007

Apr 26 @ 11:45 AM ET
Stud. Like in the locker room when the boys are all naked and sweaty and...




- wolfhounds

going to be funny when Pitts makes their selection at the 2014 draft as the place chants Crosby sucks
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Apr 26 @ 11:45 AM ET
I threw up a little. Thanks...

And I usually appreciate this kinda thing!

- FlyersGrace


Just helping steer the conversation further...

Don'tForgetTocchet
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ground Zero Brooklyn
Joined: 02.08.2007

Apr 26 @ 11:46 AM ET
yea, always strange to deal with rush hour traffic again.
- aightwebang17


more t swift time
Philly1980
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.30.2011

Apr 26 @ 11:46 AM ET
I threw up a little. Thanks...

And I usually appreciate this kinda thing!

- FlyersGrace

better than lavy saying richards has the physique of an 8 yr old boy ........
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Apr 26 @ 11:46 AM ET
Yep I did a jig when Carter left and you can do one when Briere goes.
Different strokes. Each player had a reason to walk out the door. Briere just doesn't punch my personal rage button like some of the others.

- FlyersGrace

See I don't get why people were so happy about Carter leaving and not Briere. Carter was up and coming, yes I got frustrated with him at times but I didn't arbitrarily absolve Briere from my frustration for being even more so unproductive and counter productive. At least Carter could backcheck and win faceoffs.
vejim
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: FL
Joined: 07.08.2007

Apr 26 @ 11:46 AM ET
How would you know?

- FlyersGrace

Bryz told me
coffee junkie
Joined: 02.25.2007

Apr 26 @ 11:46 AM ET
I have started a blame Bob facebook page. Pls join.
Philly1980
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.30.2011

Apr 26 @ 11:47 AM ET
I think he has been a big part of the franchise, both for on ice reasons (largely in the postseason) and for reasons you've crassly insulted people for considering. Nobody is claiming he's been perfect, but... y'know what? Whatever. You're coming across just like those very 'Bryz haters' you're invoking in this post.
- BulliesPhan87


no i dont think its that....but if we are going to balst bryz...lets blast danny also...somehow briere always gets a pass and thats the issue most of us bryz lovers have... watch out what you say about danny cause hes a class guy...you know what im a classy guy and no one pays me 6.5 million so ef him.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Apr 26 @ 11:48 AM ET
You kind of did implicate him as a top reason for this season, the way you put it. I quote, "In a way yea it is his fault." I'm still waiting to hear how his cap hit was the issue this season.

Here's a question: Why is the focus on his subpar last two regular seasons? Are you saying we should've done this sooner? Because we didn't have the option to just jettison the guy, not until this offseason.

- BulliesPhan87


Those sound like words that the run Bryz out of town crowd uses.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Apr 26 @ 11:48 AM ET
I think he has been a big part of the franchise, both for on ice reasons (largely in the postseason) and for reasons you've crassly insulted people for considering. Nobody is claiming he's been perfect, but... y'know what? Whatever. You're coming across just like those very 'Bryz haters' you're invoking in this post.
- BulliesPhan87

He hasn't been a big part on the ice for a couple seasons now. showing up in two playoff series isn't two whole seasons, as in playoffs AND regular season.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Apr 26 @ 11:50 AM ET
dominance on the PP and PK?


- Tomahawk


Look at their record. While the PP put up big numbers, far too frequently it was silent when it mattered.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Apr 26 @ 11:51 AM ET
I guess that is debatable and really boils down to what is discussed between him and Holmgren. Because to me if he's not willing to adapt what he does to the cards he's dealt, then he has to go. If he can do the adatping when called for I suppose one more shot aint gonna hurt. However I'd rather move in another direction.
- JoeRussomanno



This season's definitely been strange. With 48-games, the Flyers don't have a chance to dig themselves out of their usual early/mid-season doldrums, Kovalchuk goes down and NJ falls out of the picture, and teams like TOR and MIN who usually collapse come spring are still in the PO position.

I'd just really hesitate to make rash decisions based on this anomaly of a season if I were Homer/Snider.
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