Apparently, nothing happens in the locker room except for a bunch of sweaty naked dudes prancing around, I thought it was where the team grouped itself and tried to keep upbeat and motivated before every game and period. Guess I've been in the wrong locker rooms all my life.

I realize that you are correct and I am wrong, and apologize. Enjoy your day.
- jmatchett383

In Joe R's defense, I once sat next to a sweaty, half-naked girl in the locker room after a game, and it was actually quite pleasant.

In a way yea it is his fault. He's the biggest cap hit on the team and has been a non factor on the scoreboard going back to last year. You bring up how he's been (fill in the blank) and the national guard gets called up to defend his honor like he's bob Clarke reborn. His leadership his class etc. Guess what I don't care. The team missed the playoffs this year.
- JoeRussomanno

So what if he was the biggest cap hit? Their problem last offseason wasn't cap space, it was literally failing to get any of the players they wanted. And his cap hit isn't given for his performance and expectations this season, it ties into his contract and career as a Flyer on the whole. And with cap space becoming a concern this offseason, nobody is really calling for him to not be bought out.

I'm sorry, but pinning this season on Briere alone is kind of laughable. Sorry to break it to you.

Glad you're taking the You Can Play campaign seriously. Classy.
- KGBflyers10

Dude I don't care about anyone's sexuality but my wife's. If you're gay great for you. If you knew me outside of here I'm pretty adamant about marriage being legal for everyone, plz stop turning this into something its not.

Sorry I can't vent and be sarcastic to make a point.

He goes awol when teams play in their own end. Not only that becomes a liability when they forecheck, his 22 points the past two years against a leaking Miller and OHL Fleury mean little to me.
- JoeRussomanno

Please show me where I claimed he hasn't been defensively suspect. It's ok, I'll wait.

So what if he was the biggest cap hit? Their problem last offseason wasn't cap space, it was literally failing to get any of the players they wanted. And his cap hit isn't given for his performance and expectations this season, it ties into his contract and career as a Flyer on the whole. And with cap space becoming a concern this offseason, nobody is really calling for him to not be bought out.

I'm sorry, but pinning this season on Briere alone is kind of laughable. Sorry to break it to you.
- BulliesPhan87

Where did I pin it all on him? I said in a way but that's not saying he's public enemy number one. Just saying he's been huge for us the past few years is wrong and how I could care less how much he does in the locker room.

Also, I blame this season's problems mostly of Jeff Carter and Matt Carle.

Wow, a homosexual reference.
- jmatchett383

I read his comment and didn't think he was implying that at all. I think you're reading way too much into it.

we may see a GM change by Xmas?

Please show me where I claimed he hasn't been defensively suspect. It's ok, I'll wait.
- BulliesPhan87

Also, I blame this season's problems mostly of Jeff Carter and Matt Carle.
- jmatchett383

Dude me too! The miasma of fail they left behind is just horrendous!

Also, I blame this season's problems mostly of Jeff Carter and Matt Carle.
- jmatchett383

Bob

Glad you're taking the You Can Play campaign seriously. Classy.
- KGBflyers10

Also, I blame this season's problems mostly of Jeff Carter and Matt Carle.
- jmatchett383

While you're at it, blame players who are handsomely paid and still here that don't do poop.

Where did I pin it all on him? I said in a way but that's not saying he's public enemy number one. Just saying he's been huge for us the past few years is wrong and how I could care less how much he does in the locker room.
- JoeRussomanno

You kind of did implicate him as a top reason for this season, the way you put it. I quote, "In a way yea it is his fault." I'm still waiting to hear how his cap hit was the issue this season.

Here's a question: Why is the focus on his subpar last two regular seasons? Are you saying we should've done this sooner? Because we didn't have the option to just jettison the guy, not until this offseason.

Dude me too! The miasma of fail they left behind is just horrendous!
- FlyersGrace

It's funny you guys will bring up Jeff carter and rag on him but this guy is guilty of more egregious lack of production yet he's a saint.

Bob
- Marc D

I read his comment and didn't think he was implying that at all. I think you're reading way too much into it.
- Scoob

it takes every kinda people, to make what lifes about

You kind of did implicate him as a top reason for this season, the way you put it. I quote, "In a way yea it is his fault." I'm still waiting to hear how his cap hit was the issue this season.

Here's a question: Why is the focus on his subpar last two regular seasons? Are you saying we should've done this sooner? Because we didn't have the option to just jettison the guy, not until this offseason.
- BulliesPhan87

too many ntc/nmc is a legit complaint, imo

I agree with all of this until the last part. If lavy is making questionable calls doesn't that impact the players? Furthermore if the players are to be indicted on not bringing their lunch pails to work, doesn't that too fall back on the coach?

Everyone who defends the coach points at the players, well isn't his job as a coach of a Pro sports club, to push the buttons in their heads, get them ready for games, and make adjustments to his schemes that fit his personnel and counters what the opposition is doing?
- JoeRussomanno

If we're going to put the brunt of the blame on Lavi for problems at ES, shouldn't we also turn around and give him credit for their utter dominance on the PP and PK?

Maybe he's had Couturier on a short leash, and he hasn't managed to juice everything possible out of guys like Hartnell/Briere/Coburn, but doesn't he get credit for stewarding the assurgent play of guys like Voracek, Simmonds, and Luke Schenn?

Maybe he deserves some criticism for the way he's handled goalies in the past, but shouldn't we now give him credit for the way he's eased Mason into the net with eye-popping results?

I mean, let's be fair... Lavi's had the cards stacked against him from day one... short training camp, no time to practice, players fatigued/distracted/out-of-shape from lockout, mass injuries, key subtractions with no additions... all that has to be taken into account, too.

If I were giving Lavi a grade for the season, I'd say a solid C. Not good, but what he's done in the past makes him deserving of a shot at redemption under more favorable circumstances, IMO.

Sorry I can't vent and be sarcastic to make a point.
- JoeRussomanno

You've been on the 'Briere Must Go!' bandwagon since you started posting here...we get it. But instead of being happy that he's probably outta here, you're now harping on other posters' points of view that he's been a good soldier while he's been here, and that it's not enough that he earned his keep (for the most part) in the playoffs.

We're all frustrated about missing the playoffs, man.

Dude I don't care about anyone's sexuality but my wife's. If you're gay great for you. If you knew me outside of here I'm pretty adamant about marriage being legal for everyone, plz stop turning this into something its not.

Sorry I can't vent and be sarcastic to make a point.
- JoeRussomanno

Relax, I'm just piling it on.

Briere's been a stud for years in a Flyers uniform, but it's time to move on from him when they have the chance. His cap hit is the sword that slays his remaining time here in Philly. If he wasn't playing out of position, I wouldn't move him. But he can't play wing, and I can't stand to see Couturier play on the fourth line again.

too many ntc/nmc is a legit complaint, imo
- Marc D

Yeah, but that's neither Briere's fault, nor solely a Briere issue. And did those clauses stop us from getting the players we targeted this summer?

If we're going to put the brunt of the blame on Lavi for problems at ES, shouldn't we also turn around and give him credit for their utter dominance on the PP and PK?

Maybe he's had Couturier on a short leash, and he hasn't managed to juice everything possible out of guys like Hartnell/Briere/Coburn, but doesn't he get credit for stewarding the assurgent play of guys like Voracek, Simmonds, and Luke Schenn?

Maybe he deserves some criticism for the way he's handled goalies in the past, but shouldn't we now give him credit for the way he's eased Mason into the net with eye-popping results?

I mean, let's be fair... Lavi's had the cards stacked against him from day one... short training camp, no time to practice, players fatigued/distracted/out-of-shape from lockout, mass injuries, key subtractions with no additions... all that has to be taken into account, too.

If I were giving Lavi a grade for the season, I'd say a solid C. Not good, but what he's done in the past makes him deserving of a shot at redemption, IMO.
- Tomahawk

You've been on the 'Briere Must Go!' bandwagon since you started posting here...we get it. But instead of being happy that he's probably outta here, you're now harping on other posters' points of view that he's been a good soldier while he's been here, and that it's not enough that he earned his keep (for the most part) in the playoffs.

We're all frustrated about missing the playoffs, man.
- tangent_man

Yes, yes, to Obi Wan you listen!

You kind of did implicate him as a top reason for this season, the way you put it. I quote, "In a way yea it is his fault." I'm still waiting to hear how his cap hit was the issue this season.

Here's a question: Why is the focus on his subpar last two regular seasons? Are you saying we should've done this sooner? Because we didn't have the option to just jettison the guy, not until this offseason.
- BulliesPhan87

If you go back, this all started because another poster said he's been a big part of the organization for the past few years. I went back and changed it to "hasn't been a big part" because he hasn't other than his massive payroll hit. Several like to focus on the goalie and what he makes, sorry I found something more relevant and deserving of criticism.