Taking a stupid penalty and laughing about it in the box.

Thats the Hartnell I love

Randy Miller ‏@RandyJMiller 19s

Saunders on Bundy's retired parents not cooking for him in Ottawa this weekend: "They probably can't afford the groceries it would take."

I swear one of these days I'm gonna make a hockey site that doesn't blow up every time there is more than 5 users on it!

I swear one of these days I'm gonna make a hockey site that doesn't blow up every time there is more than 5 users on it!
- Philly1980

There were sporadic server outages in the last 6 hrs. across the country.

There were sporadic server outages in the last 6 hrs. across the
country.
- CaptEO

Thanks Capt.

this game is borrrrring

There were sporadic server outages in the last 6 hrs. across the country.
- CaptEO

Not really trying to kiss ass, but HB gives those of us not in the Philly area a chance to be exposed to more Flyer hockey/information.

As well to talk to other Flyer fans, which might not really be as possible in other areas of the world.

Keep on, keeping on.

this game is borrrrring
- Don'tForgetTocchet

Voracek is trying to do it all himself it seems.

Tavares however is taking the game over imo.

Need to get some emotion into it.

Others just seem to like the High School drama and the TMZ nonsense.
- MJL

Guess you're lumping Bill in there, too? All this talk about Bryz was in response to something that he wrote:

There are plenty of bright players in the NHL who are well-liked, including Russians. For instance, former NHL defenseman Alexander Khavanov -- one of the very few players who went to college in Russia while simultaneously launching a pro career -- was very well-liked and well-respected among his teammates, even with the cultural differences.

Plain and simple, Bryzgalov is not well-liked by teammates because it's their belief that he's thrown teammates under the bus on more than one occasion. He doesn't have to be a social butterfly, and goalies in general are often viewed as oddballs for various reasons.

When teams win, the disparate personalities co-exist. When they lose, the personality clashes that exist in every locker room become more significant and the finger-pointing starts.

Again, I personally don't believe that Bryzgalov is a bad guy or acts out of malice. But some of it is his own doing. He wasn't well-liked in Anaheim, Phoenix, Philly, CSKA or among Team Russia leadership during the NHL lockout; so some that has to be of his own doing beyond his play on the ice.

I will say, though, that Vladislav Tretiak backed Bryzgalov to the hilt when he was getting pilloried in the Russian media during the NHL lockout.
- bmeltzer

Guess you're lumping Bill in there, too? All this talk about Bryz was in response to something that he wrote:
- Tomahawk

You think what Bill wrote is TMZ nonsense? Im going to have to go ahead and disagree with you on that one okay?

There were sporadic server outages in the last 6 hrs. across the country.
- CaptEO

Meh more like someone fiddling with your db... At least it didn't spit out the SQL queries this time lol

You think what Bill wrote is TMZ nonsense? Im going to have to go ahead and disagree with you on that one okay?

- MBFlyerfan

Be careful.

You think what Bill wrote is TMZ nonsense? Im going to have to go ahead and disagree with you on that one okay?

- MBFlyerfan

No but, the rumor and drama mongerers notwithstanding, Bill has posted that the players feel Bryz has repeatedly "thrown them under the bus". This lends credibility to something that MJL has challenged in the past and discounted as rumors or media speculation. I think we have unequivocal evidence, it's real.

"Plain and simple, Bryzgalov is not well-liked by teammates because it's their belief that he's thrown teammates under the bus on more than one occasion."
- billmeltzer

No but, the rumor and drama mongerers notwithstanding, Bill has posted that the players feel Bryz has repeatedly "thrown them under the bus". This lends credibility to something that MJL has challenged in the past and discounted as rumors or media speculation. I think we have unequivocal evidence, it's real.
- exlund

Yeah I didn't agree with bill on that... I pointed out briere has been worse in terms of production/cap hit and I got murdered...it's ok briere gets a pass because he's a nice guy and knows how to schmooze with the media.. I never see Danny getting the same scrutiny as bryz even though he's performed worse

Like trade rumors, you have to take the reports of teammates not being well liked or whatever with a grain of salt. When you see a guy like Bill comment on them, I tend to believe it, because Bill is a credible writer that only ventures down that path when it's relevant.

Bill's stock in trade is very good hockey analysis and deep knowledge of European players. It's not often that he delves into the other junk that so enraptures the local media.

Like trade rumors, you have to take the reports of teammates not being well liked or whatever with a grain of salt. When you see a guy like Bill comment on them, I tend to believe it, because Bill is a credible writer that only ventures down that path when it's relevant.

Bill's stock in trade is very good hockey analysis and deep knowledge of European players. It's not often that he delves into the other junk that so enraptures the local media.
- Jsaquella

yep

yep
- exlund

Kind of lame though, because Bryz would probably be the guy I'd most like to go fishing with out of all of 'em.

Kind of lame though, because Bryz would probably be the guy I'd most like to go fishing with out of all of 'em.
- flyer_nutter

If you ever hung out with Russians you would know they have a quirky sense of humor... I don't doubt this guy takes the game seriously... At times he was the only one on the team trying in the beginning middle of the season

Not sure I agree that was a penalty.

Kind of lame though, because Bryz would probably be the guy I'd most like to go fishing with out of all of 'em.
- flyer_nutter

If you ever hung out with Russians you would know they have a quirky sense of humor... I don't doubt this guy takes the game seriously... At times he was the only one on the team trying in the beginning middle of the season

Yeah I didn't agree with bill on that... I pointed out briere has been worse in terms of production/cap hit and I got murdered...it's ok briere gets a pass because he's a nice guy and knows how to schmooze with the media.. I never see Danny getting the same scrutiny as bryz even though he's performed worse
- Philly1980

I have stated my thoughts on this before. I think there's a certain code amongst players that you just don't say certain things to the media or even in "the room" in front of the team. Pointing fingers at other players can be taboo, especially for a "new guy" who has, himself, made some questionable plays. I don't know if it is Bryz's ignorance or cultural differences or some need to be brutally honest or to cause trouble or what, but it seems his statements do more to estrange him from his teammates than to endear. Though it's not always the case, it can bleed over into play on the ice. I've been on teams where the goalie was a douche, and you just don't feel as confident or as willing to have his back if he should say, let in a bad goal or two, as you would with someone you trust and respect.

I've said before, I think it would be best if Bryz was on media lockdown...I'll add that he should probably be told, in no uncertain terms, that he isn't to speak ill of any teammeates in the presence of others...at least until he earns the respect to do so.

Oliver Lauridsen goal streak???

Oliver BLASTidson

Oliver BLASTidson
- MBFlyerfan

SCOREachek and BLASTidson.

Sounds like a bad movie!

Oli Lauri!