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GirouxForTheShow
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Fuck you raff
Joined: 01.04.2009

Apr 24 @ 7:06 PM ET
Anyone hear anything about the draft lottery being moved due to ott/bos makeup game Sunday? Or are they still having it Sunday?
- SMS4016


If both teams make the playoffs, does it matter?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Apr 24 @ 7:07 PM ET
I think Schenner has got everything but the great speed and the PP QB. He's a good passer, and has a hard shot, granted the wind up he has is slow. His decision making needs some work, but I've been very high on him all year. I think in the future he will be that #1 guy, just not an offensive minded #1.
- GirouxForTheShow


Schenn's upside is of a #2 shutdown defensive defenseman on a top pairing as a compliment to a puck mover, or to a true #1 defenseman.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Apr 24 @ 7:08 PM ET
Schenn's upside is of a #2 shutdown defensive defenseman on a top pairing as a compliment to a puck mover, or to a true #1 defenseman.
- MJL


They also lack the ammo to land a #1 without it hurting the team as it sits now & putting their already lack of system depth another decade behind.
GirouxForTheShow
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Fuck you raff
Joined: 01.04.2009

Apr 24 @ 7:09 PM ET
Schenn's upside is of a #2 shutdown defensive defenseman on a top pairing as a compliment to a puck mover, or to a true #1 defenseman.
- MJL


I appreciate your insight.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Apr 24 @ 7:11 PM ET
Collectively I've seen enough from L Schenn, Lauridsen, and Huskins (I would bring him back for depth) for the flyers to make another hockey trade like the L Schenn trade last summer involving one of Coburn/Grossman to bring back a younger forward or Offensive type Dman like McBain. If I were the Flyers I'd look at that.
GirouxForTheShow
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Fuck you raff
Joined: 01.04.2009

Apr 24 @ 7:13 PM ET
Drew Leblanc, wins the Hobey Baker, first NHL game gets on the 2nd line a center in between Kane and Sharp. Must be nice.
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Apr 24 @ 7:14 PM ET
Collectively I've seen enough from L Schenn, Lauridsen, and Huskins (I would bring him back for depth) for the flyers to make another hockey trade like the L Schenn trade last summer involving one of Coburn/Grossman to bring back a younger forward or Offensive type Dman like McBain. If I were the Flyers I'd look at that.
- Just5


I'd really like to know more about Grossman's injury, and what the organization believes going forward. They know more than we do.

I'd pretty much try to keep him at almost any cost myself though. Before going down with an injury he was the teams best and most consistent d-man. He was a rock last year as well.

I'd be pretty cool with Schenn, Grossman and Oliver as the shutdown crew next year if need be.
SMS4016
Joined: 01.27.2011

Apr 24 @ 7:14 PM ET
If both teams make the playoffs, does it matter?
- GirouxForTheShow

No it wouldn't matter but league might not have it while game is being played.
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Apr 24 @ 7:14 PM ET
Anyone hear anything about the draft lottery being moved due to ott/bos makeup game Sunday? Or are they still having it Sunday?
- SMS4016

I read today and heard it twice on the radio that it's Monday.
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Apr 24 @ 7:18 PM ET
There's quite a Toronto presence in Tampa Bay tonight.

One thing I regret about this season is the chance to knock the Leafs out of the playoffs.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Apr 24 @ 7:19 PM ET
Collectively I've seen enough from L Schenn, Lauridsen, and Huskins (I would bring him back for depth) for the flyers to make another hockey trade like the L Schenn trade last summer involving one of Coburn/Grossman to bring back a younger forward or Offensive type Dman like McBain. If I were the Flyers I'd look at that.
- Just5


I think you're kidding yourself if you think that they can trade Coburn or Grossmann because of having Lauridsen and Huskins. Lauridsen right now is at best a #6 low minute player, who really needs more AHL time. And Huskins is a 7th defenseman.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Apr 24 @ 7:20 PM ET
Drew Leblanc, wins the Hobey Baker, first NHL game gets on the 2nd line a center in between Kane and Sharp. Must be nice.
- GirouxForTheShow


Well when you keep many picks, don't trade the players shortly after taking them, let them develop you have this option.

flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Apr 24 @ 7:21 PM ET
There's quite a Toronto presence in Tampa Bay tonight.

One thing I regret about this season is the chance to knock the Leafs out of the playoffs.

- mayorofangrytown


If they end up going against Montreal they could actually make it on to round 2.

Reimer has really done a nice job for them. I thought Kadri was a politically correct draft choice for the city, and a bust. The kid has game.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Apr 24 @ 7:22 PM ET
Drew Leblanc, wins the Hobey Baker, first NHL game gets on the 2nd line a center in between Kane and Sharp. Must be nice.
- GirouxForTheShow


Their prospect Alex Broadhurst just scored for London. They picked him in the 7th round in 2011
SMS4016
Joined: 01.27.2011

Apr 24 @ 7:24 PM ET
I read today and heard it twice on the radio that it's Monday.
- mayorofangrytown

Cool thanks... Monday works better for me I work Sunday overnight
GirouxForTheShow
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Fuck you raff
Joined: 01.04.2009

Apr 24 @ 7:25 PM ET
If they end up going against Montreal they could actually make it on to round 2.

Reimer has really done a nice job for them. I thought Kadri was a politically correct draft choice for the city, and a bust. The kid has game.

- flyer_nutter


I was always huge on Kadri, the kid was a bust cause he played in TO. I remember watching that draft and someone mentioning him along with Tavares and Duchsene. He's a good offensive player with an edge. Seems like a leader.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Apr 24 @ 7:26 PM ET
Stolarz made an amazing save and then this:

Anthony SanFilippo ‏@AnthonySan37

The save by Stolarz was so good that a Plymouth exec sitting next to me said, "That kid has been the difference… Great save."
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Apr 24 @ 7:26 PM ET
Tomas Tatar could be an interesting guy to look at.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Apr 24 @ 7:28 PM ET
I think you're kidding yourself if you think that they can trade Coburn or Grossmann because of having Lauridsen and Huskins. Lauridsen right now is at best a #6 low minute player, who really needs more AHL time. And Huskins is a 7th defenseman.
- MJL


No I am not kidding myself. I think your selling Huskins short. I would sign him for depth. I also think your selling Lauridsen short. I'd like to see more of him. But if Pronger can possibly work with him I see nothing stopping him from being an effective shutdown guy on the 3rd pairing next year. I think he has all the tools to be effective in that role. I haven't seen him look out of place over the last couple weeks at all.

And in a trade I would like to bring in a dman with a different skill set like a Mcbain. So really not a huge leap of faith

MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Apr 24 @ 7:28 PM ET
I was always huge on Kadri, the kid was a bust cause he played in TO. I remember watching that draft and someone mentioning him along with Tavares and Duchsene. He's a good offensive player with an edge. Seems like a leader.
- GirouxForTheShow


I think that's a perfect example of being patient with a player. Toronto did a great job developing him.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Apr 24 @ 7:29 PM ET
Torn on Bryz next year. The only thing that really bothers me about him (that is more abundantly clear watching Mason) is his nonexistent puck movement. I really think it contributes a lot to the wear and tear of our defensemen, and helps the other team so much knowing they can forecheck the hell out of us not worrying about good outlets by the goalie.

And it won't get better

- Just5

Excellent point. Add that to a cap hit of 5.7million for 7 years and you have my case for buying him out.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Apr 24 @ 7:31 PM ET
No I am not kidding myself. I think your selling Huskins short. I would sign him for depth. I also think your selling Lauridsen short. I'd like to see more of him. But if Pronger can possibly work with him I see nothing stopping him from being an effective shutdown guy on the 3rd pairing next year. I think he has all the tools to be effective in that role. I haven't seen him look out of place over the last couple weeks at all.
- Just5


I think your way overvaluing Huskins, if you think his presence allows you to trade Coburn or Grossmann. Lauridsen is no where near ready to take on the responsibilities and roles on the team, that Coburn and Grossmann fill.
I think Lauridsen can be a future 3rd pair stay at home physical defenseman in this League also. But that is not what Coburn and Grossmann are. They are both top 4 defenseman in this League. And neither Huskins or Lauridsen can replace them.
GirouxForTheShow
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Fuck you raff
Joined: 01.04.2009

Apr 24 @ 7:31 PM ET
I think that's a perfect example of being patient with a player. Toronto did a great job developing him.
- MJL


The organization did yes, the city was ready to crucify him.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Apr 24 @ 7:32 PM ET
The organization did yes, the city was ready to crucify him.
- GirouxForTheShow


Yep, pretty typical of a hockey town.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Apr 24 @ 7:33 PM ET
GFTS, I would say that to be a #1 guy, they need to have the offensive side of the game. Puck moving, great skater, great passer, PP quarterback, hard shot.

Big Schenn is not there yet, even though he gets the toughest assignments and eats big minutes.

- Marc D

A lot of teams, many of them very successful, don' t have true number 1 dmen. I think Schenn can however be a top pair guy who can be matched against another teams top line.
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