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Yeti1181
Referee
Edmonton Oilers
Location: I'm AWESOME, AB
Joined: 07.27.2012

Apr 24 @ 2:18 AM ET
Untie what exactly? The ragged laces that made their team trip and stumble all the way down to the bottom of the standings?
- nayefj

Sorry Colorado blog is two over.
Yeti1181
Referee
Edmonton Oilers
Location: I'm AWESOME, AB
Joined: 07.27.2012

Apr 24 @ 2:19 AM ET


I shall go cry myself to sleep. Hopefully Steele, my partner in troll, will spoon me.

- systemtool

Just watch out for the Richard he's got it on his mind tonite
Jeropotato
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 01.03.2013

Apr 24 @ 2:20 AM ET
Just making the playoffs was a big step for these teams after the seasons they had last year. Also, they'll likely be playing each other so this prediction is rather goofy.

As a Leaf fan, I wont be shocked or upset if they go out first round. Far exceeded my expectations and the future finally looks bright. Young team, lots of room to grow.

- systemtool


I don't like the Leaf's just not a fan, but I think the team is pretty good.Listening to the Canuck fans talk about how bad the Leafs need Luongo is hilarious.Reimer is as good as Schneider,I think, just had some injury woes. Plus they have a lot of depth on D, so after they clean up some contracts,they have some serious trade pieces to improve down the road. It's easy to laugh at Kessel cuz he looks and talks like a Downy, but the boy can score goals. JVR was a good move,I think as well. I'm not 100% sold on Kadri, but he has been getting it done this year.Honestly,they don't seem as solid top to bottom as some of the teams they are ahead of in the standings, but I think there is enough there that will still challenge for a spot next year,even if they do come down to earth a little bit.
robin_steele264
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 03.15.2009

Apr 24 @ 2:20 AM ET
Just watch out for the Richard he's got it on his mind tonite
- Yeti1181




I need it back from you



nayefj
Colorado Avalanche
Location: Colorado/Qatif, Saudi Arabia/القطيف
Joined: 02.04.2010

Apr 24 @ 2:20 AM ET
Sorry Colorado blog is two over.
- Yeti1181


Hey my tear tanks over the Avs are dry. I was just exploiting Clouts' spelling gaffe for pseudo-comic effect.
Yeti1181
Referee
Edmonton Oilers
Location: I'm AWESOME, AB
Joined: 07.27.2012

Apr 24 @ 2:21 AM ET
I need it back from you
- robin_steele264

Christ I gave it to you twice already
Yeti1181
Referee
Edmonton Oilers
Location: I'm AWESOME, AB
Joined: 07.27.2012

Apr 24 @ 2:22 AM ET
Hey my tear tanks over the Avs are dry. I was just exploiting Clouts' spelling gaffe for pseudo-comic effect.
- nayefj

Now now no need to make fun of handicap children
nayefj
Colorado Avalanche
Location: Colorado/Qatif, Saudi Arabia/القطيف
Joined: 02.04.2010

Apr 24 @ 2:22 AM ET
Christ I gave it to you twice already
- Yeti1181


JEEZ LEELA TWICE IN ONE DAY?
nayefj
Colorado Avalanche
Location: Colorado/Qatif, Saudi Arabia/القطيف
Joined: 02.04.2010

Apr 24 @ 2:22 AM ET
Now now no need to make fun of handicap children
- Yeti1181




I like you.
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Apr 24 @ 2:23 AM ET
I don't like the Leaf's just not a fan, but I think the team is pretty good.Listening to the Canuck fans talk about how bad the Leafs need Luongo is hilarious.Reimer is as good as Schneider,I think, just had some injury woes. Plus they have a lot of depth on D, so after they clean up some contracts,they have some serious trade pieces to improve down the road. It's easy to laugh at Kessel cuz he looks and talks like a Downy, but the boy can score goals. JVR was a good move,I think as well. I'm not 100% sold on Kadri, but he has been getting it done this year.Honestly,they don't seem as solid top to bottom as some of the teams they are ahead of in the standings, but I think there is enough there that will still challenge for a spot next year,even if they do come down to earth a little bit.
- Jeropotato


Yea, the team has a lot of room still to grow and improve. Probably wont do much in the playoffs, but there is a ton of inexperience on the team, so just making it will be of a benefit to them.

They aren't as solid as a lot of teams top to bottom, but the gap will be smaller next year when the cap goes down.

The goal was to make the playoffs, and they did. Everything that happens now is just gravy. As for Luongo, no team needs that contract. And with that, im out.

Good night all, and make sure to hate each other openly.
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Apr 24 @ 2:24 AM ET
Is Stajan your mom?

#shamemile

- systemtool

Weak ... You can do better ... But seriously look at the resemblance between Al and dion ... And the way they talk .... I think momma phaneuf has some explaining to do
MaximumBone
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.15.2012

Apr 24 @ 2:25 AM ET
Its whatever you're trying to convince yourself of.
- systemtool

Alright, so I'll start out by pointing their most obvious short-coming, and that is the On-ice Corsi rating of each of your individual players. Corsi, in case you didn't know, is a stat that measures the "on-ice shot differential (goals + saves + missed shots + blocks). This is expressed as a rate stat per 60 minutes." When looking at this particular stat (seen at #1 at the bottom of the page) you'll see that the Leafs are horribly deficient with not a single player on the team achieving a positive rating. This mean that no matter who you have out on the ice, your team is consistently getting out-possessed (and not in the spiritual sense). Even when watching Leafs games you can see that they get trapped in their own zone all too often and for all too long. They've been lucky to have avoided having more goals in. In the vast majority of cases, teams that succeed like this are very likely to come crashing back down to Earth in the following season, thus an increase in the number of goals against.

Next we'll take a look at their key contributor's shooting % individually (seen at #2 on the bottom of the page). Seeing as the average shooting % for most NHL players over any prolonged period is between 9% and 12%, I think you can understand my skepticism in the ability for players like Lupul, Bozak, McClement, JVR, and, in particular, Kadri to maintain their level of production into next season. As such, a likely dip in offense produced.

Would you like me to continue?

#1. www.behindthenet.ca/nhl_s...0&f1=2012_s&f2=5v5&f5=TOR

#2. http://mapleleafs.nhl.com...season=20122013&srt=spct#
Yeti1181
Referee
Edmonton Oilers
Location: I'm AWESOME, AB
Joined: 07.27.2012

Apr 24 @ 2:27 AM ET


I like you.

- nayefj

I feel like I should post Dennis Leary bumhole song
systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Apr 24 @ 2:28 AM ET
Alright, so I'll start out by pointing their most obvious short-coming, and that is the On-ice Corsi rating of each of your individual players. Corsi, in case you didn't know, is a stat that measures the "on-ice shot differential (goals + saves + missed shots + blocks). This is expressed as a rate stat per 60 minutes." When looking at this particular stat (seen at #1 at the bottom of the page) you'll see that the Leafs are horribly deficient with not a single player on the team achieving a positive rating. This mean that no matter who you have out on the ice, your team is consistently getting out-possessed (and not in the spiritual sense). Even when watching Leafs games you can see that they get trapped in their own zone all too often and for all too long. They've been lucky to have avoided having more goals in. In the vast majority of cases, teams that succeed like this are very likely to come crashing back down to Earth in the following season, thus an increase in the number of goals against.

Next we'll take a look at their key contributor's shooting % individually (seen at #2 on the bottom of the page). Seeing as the average shooting % for most NHL players over any prolonged period is between 9% and 12%, I think you can understand my skepticism in the ability for players like Lupul, Bozak, McClement, JVR, and, in particular, Kadri to maintain their level of production into next season. As such, a likely dip in offense produced.

Would you like me to continue?

#1. www.behindthenet.ca/nhl_s...0&f1=2012_s&f2=5v5&f5=TOR

#2. http://mapleleafs.nhl.com...season=20122013&srt=spct#

- MaximumBone


Im going to bed. I would like you to continue though, and this time use more than Corsi stats. Like totals goals scored, total goals allowed, total hits, total wins, total points etc etc

Luck is a fluke, a chance occurance. Luck isn't consistency spread over 45 games. Sorry, but Corsi away.
Oildrum
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Kenny will bring us to the promised land
Joined: 06.12.2012

Apr 24 @ 2:29 AM ET
What if Toronto is the home team?

What if Toronto and Montreal dont play each other but are the home team against their opponents?

What if the Oilers played the Canucks in the playoffs and the Oilers had home ice?

What if the Flames had home ice and the Oilers played them in the playoffs?

- systemtool


1 unlikely
2 they both lose like I said
3 Oil aren't making the playoffs
4 refer to answer 3
Yeti1181
Referee
Edmonton Oilers
Location: I'm AWESOME, AB
Joined: 07.27.2012

Apr 24 @ 2:30 AM ET
I feel like I should post Dennis Leary bumhole song
- Yeti1181

http://www.youtube.com/wa...ture=youtube_gdata_player
Yeti1181
Referee
Edmonton Oilers
Location: I'm AWESOME, AB
Joined: 07.27.2012

Apr 24 @ 2:31 AM ET
1 unlikely
2 they both lose like I said
3 Oil aren't making the playoffs
4 refer to answer 3

- Oildrum

Actually 1 is entirely possible therefore likely
Yeti1181
Referee
Edmonton Oilers
Location: I'm AWESOME, AB
Joined: 07.27.2012

Apr 24 @ 2:32 AM ET
Im going to bed. I would like you to continue though, and this time use more than Corsi stats. Like totals goals scored, total goals allowed, total hits, total wins, total points etc etc

Luck is a fluke, a chance occurance. Luck isn't consistency spread over 45 games. Sorry, but Corsi away.

- systemtool

Night man
MaximumBone
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.15.2012

Apr 24 @ 2:37 AM ET
Im going to bed. I would like you to continue though, and this time use more than Corsi stats. Like totals goals scored, total goals allowed, total hits, total wins, total points etc etc

Luck is a fluke, a chance occurance. Luck isn't consistency spread over 45 games. Sorry, but Corsi away.

- systemtool

Alright, so clearly you're missing something I'm saying if you want me to continue. Those should've been enough as Corsi rating alone should've been enough to prove your team will very likely not continue this next season, but you shrug them off and seem to insist that they aren't tangible enough stats. I'll leave you in your fantasy world for now. Don't be surprised if Nonis insists that the team is good enough as it is thus enters next season with the same roster and falls out of the playoff hunt around mid-season... most likely.
Oildrum
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Kenny will bring us to the promised land
Joined: 06.12.2012

Apr 24 @ 2:37 AM ET
Actually 1 is entirely possible therefore likely
- Yeti1181


Just because it's possible does not make it likely. I would call 4 points back even with a game in hand unlikely. Only because of how few games are left.
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Apr 24 @ 2:38 AM ET
Wow, this is the dumbest thing I have ever seen posted. If he was such a genius why did he suck in every other year?

Not a stacked team. A team that went out at the deadline and got Samsonov when he was good, Peca a two way guy, Tarnstrom and Pitkenen to add to Pronger they got in the off season.

Are you going to then tell me that he knew Pisani was going to be an all star that season and lead the team through some tough games? Or Rolli was going to play the best hockey of his career those months? Or that he coached them through the lucky bounces and close calls they had against detroit?

That was the only year I can remember in a long time that the Oiler went out and got good veteran players for a run. The team rode on a hot goalie, with strong d and a nobody from just outside of Edmonton who would never play that good again in his life.

MacT is the worse coach the Oilers have ever had. All he did during those playoffs is watch the veterans do their thing.

I use to banter with you because I thought there was some sort of thought process being returned. I won't reply anymore. I can see that you knowledge of hockey is limited to personal beliefs rather than facts.

- bsteinley

tarnstrom was terrible. he rode pine that whole run.

and they never had pitkanen and pronger together.

i dont agree that mact was a terrible coach. i think he did a decent job with not much to work with over the years.
Gunslinger
Montreal Canadiens
Location: ID
Joined: 10.15.2011

Apr 24 @ 2:42 AM ET
Alright, so clearly you're missing something I'm saying if you want me to continue. Those should've been enough as Corsi rating alone should've been enough to prove your team will very likely not continue this next season, but you shrug them off and seem to insist that they aren't tangible enough stats. I'll leave you in your fantasy world for now. Don't be surprised if Nonis insists that the team is good enough as it is thus enters next season with the same roster and falls out of the playoff hunt around mid-season... most likely.
- MaximumBone


He does have a point though. You're going on Corsi alone and he is going on the traditional stats alone. With all due respect, but the standings and wins are the best indicator. Luck will carry you a few games, not a span of 45 different test samples.

You're shrugging off evidence to the contrary, so I suppose you both share this fantasy world. You too shouldn't be surpised if this team is in the playoffs next season. This goes both ways, and imaking or missing the playoffs have a 50-50 shot of happening. Neither is most likely.

Plus the Corsi stats are not an exact science and not everyones cup of tea.
Oildrum
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Kenny will bring us to the promised land
Joined: 06.12.2012

Apr 24 @ 2:42 AM ET
tarnstrom was terrible. he rode pine that whole run.

and they never had pitkanen and pronger together.

i dont agree that mact was a terrible coach. i think he did a decent job with not much to work with over the years.

- hugefemale dog77


This
DTF69
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: I lied to get some white people on my side, AB
Joined: 02.03.2010

Apr 24 @ 2:42 AM ET
He along with Gernat and Musil are graduating from the WHL while half of their top-9 moves on up for various reasonsare. That team is gonna struggle if they don't do something soon.
- MaximumBone


The offence is gonna be Lazar, the D will be overager Lowe, and in net it'll be Jarry.

That is basically about it.

Lazar isn't even that good. Lowe sucks and Jarry looks good but its hard to really tell.
DTF69
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: I lied to get some white people on my side, AB
Joined: 02.03.2010

Apr 24 @ 2:43 AM ET
tarnstrom was terrible. he rode pine that whole run.

and they never had pitkanen and pronger together.

i dont agree that mact was a terrible coach. i think he did a decent job with not much to work with over the years.

- hugefemale dog77


He could get more out of grinders than anyone else could. He didn't do so hot with skill players. Can't handle them the same way.
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