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Yonk1216
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Scranton, PA
Joined: 02.24.2011

Apr 23 @ 4:03 PM ET
Maybe, but Carcillo isn't as bad as Cooke. He also scraps when he needs to.

This will be my last post.. I'm sure you're all sick of me already..

I just don't get why the BEST team in the league (when healthy, I say Pitts is much better than Chicago), employs the most hated guy in the league. It seems to be a mismatch.

Regardless of the justifications you have for Cooke or the talk about him being reformed, the fact remains that he is the most hated weasel the NHL has seen in a long time.

- Charliebox


It's really pretty simple.... cause he's a cheap effective defensively minded forward with a modest goal scoring touch who kills penalties with the best of them and incites rage in other teams players and their fans which gives one of the best power plays in the league more chances with the man advantage.

Answer you question??
Yonk1216
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Scranton, PA
Joined: 02.24.2011

Apr 23 @ 4:06 PM ET
Ok I lied.. Stop with the Neil on Mcintyre.

Neil has showed time and time again that he will fight anyone. He's fought Chara 3x for god sakes and hasn't lost one of them.

Maybe Neil didn't fight McIntyre cause the guy isn't an NHLer. Ever think of that? Maybe Neil didn't want to break his hand (or his face) in a fight with a guy who can't play hockey? It's the same reason why other tough guys turn down fights with Kassian or McGratten. They aren't even hockey players ffs.

- Charliebox


Fine... which is the exact reason a guy way more valuable than Neil in Cooke wouldn't risk breaking his hand fighting a none trick pony Chris Neil.

What's good for the goose is good for the gander my friend.
nbartley9
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 01.31.2012

Apr 23 @ 4:07 PM ET
Ok I lied.. Stop with the Neil on Mcintyre.

Neil has showed time and time again that he will fight anyone. He's fought Chara 3x for god sakes and hasn't lost one of them.

Maybe Neil didn't fight McIntyre cause the guy isn't an NHLer. Ever think of that? Maybe Neil didn't want to break his hand (or his face) in a fight with a guy who can't play hockey? It's the same reason why other tough guys turn down fights with Kassian or McGratten. They aren't even hockey players ffs.

- Charliebox

There was a urine spot on the ice when Murray got in Neil's face.
canadianpenfan
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Calgary
Joined: 05.13.2010

Apr 23 @ 4:10 PM ET
Ok I lied.. Stop with the Neil on Mcintyre.

Neil has showed time and time again that he will fight anyone. He's fought Chara 3x for god sakes and hasn't lost one of them.

Maybe Neil didn't fight McIntyre cause the guy isn't an NHLer. Ever think of that? Maybe Neil didn't want to break his hand (or his face) in a fight with a guy who can't play hockey? It's the same reason why other tough guys turn down fights with Kassian or McGratten. They aren't even hockey players ffs.

- Charliebox



Um...you saw the game last night yes?
rival22
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @Mance_22 - Albany, NY
Joined: 02.27.2007

Apr 23 @ 4:11 PM ET
There was a urine spot on the ice when Murray got in Neil's face.
- nbartley9


I liked when MacIntyre quieted down Neil, but then as the linesman was skating him away, he started chirping again.
walshy66
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @walshy66 www.hockeyhurts.com
Joined: 03.21.2008

Apr 23 @ 4:12 PM ET
Maybe?

I really just popped in to read what people thought of that Neal hit on Despres, then I read the Cooke > Giroux thing, and felt the need to question the comparison.

Then it went from there.

- wolfhounds



I was fine with it, should have had his head up.....

Anyone who says his elbows were up is crazy, his elbows were down. What he did was pretty text book really. Im not even sure it warranted a charging penalty, I think the officials gave him a penalty due to the scrum and just pulled one out of their arse.
canadianpenfan
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Calgary
Joined: 05.13.2010

Apr 23 @ 4:14 PM ET
Chris Neil in a nutshell...

Take guy into the boards from behind, sucker punch him in the face and then grab your face like something happened to you.




Rawdog9755
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 02.17.2009

Apr 23 @ 4:15 PM ET
I was fine with it, should have had his head up.....

Anyone who says his elbows were up is crazy, his elbows were down. What he did was pretty text book really. Im not even sure it warranted a charging penalty, I think the officials gave him a penalty due to the scrum and just pulled one out of their arse.

- walshy66

Agreed. Neil getting sent to the box on that play was the same as Cooke getting penalized for getting punched in the face by Neil in the last game. Both were penalized because of the name on the back of their jerseys and because it was a way to keep the game under control. Same reason why Big Mac got 10.
rival22
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @Mance_22 - Albany, NY
Joined: 02.27.2007

Apr 23 @ 4:16 PM ET
I was fine with it, should have had his head up.....

Anyone who says his elbows were up is crazy, his elbows were down. What he did was pretty text book really. Im not even sure it warranted a charging penalty, I think the officials gave him a penalty due to the scrum and just pulled one out of their arse.

- walshy66


The officials did that A LOT last night, both ways. It was about as horribly an officiated hockey game as I've seen this season. I'm not sure what was worse, some of the calls, or some of the non calls.
Rawdog9755
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 02.17.2009

Apr 23 @ 4:22 PM ET
Chris Neil in a nutshell...

Take guy into the boards from behind, sucker punch him in the face and then grab your face like something happened to you.

- canadianpenfan

At least with Neil he is throwing punches and hits(both in the video and the game last night). I can tolerate that from a player like him. I honestly thought the worst of last night was the "high stick" Philips laid on Cooke. The initial contact might have been inadvertent but he definitely gives the stick a twist when he notices its Cooke.
canadianpenfan
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Calgary
Joined: 05.13.2010

Apr 23 @ 4:35 PM ET
At least with Neil he is throwing punches and hits(both in the video and the game last night). I can tolerate that from a player like him. I honestly thought the worst of last night was the "high stick" Philips laid on Cooke. The initial contact might have been inadvertent but he definitely gives the stick a twist when he notices its Cooke.
- Rawdog9755



I thought Alfie's crosscheck to the face took the cake. I really can't get over how that was called.
JLT168
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: PGH, PA
Joined: 07.09.2012

Apr 23 @ 4:50 PM ET
Is there any chance Hartzell is going to get us a start with us? He couldnt possibly be better or more ready for NHL compared to Zhatkoff who played a full, and stellar AHL season, I know he played well in the NCAAs but still....thoughts? did they announce who is in net tonight, I may have missed it?
Sell My Monkey
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: United States
Joined: 05.02.2008

Apr 23 @ 4:53 PM ET
If Alfredsson was Cooke, who thinks they would have been given coincidentals last night?



- canadianpenfan


Haha, Alfredson with a two hander to Bortuzzo's face. And Cooke is a bad guy.

Alffy should get suspended for that, Neil should get suspended for charging at Despres from 20 feet away. Those were blatant attempts to injure.

Yep Cooke does that its probably 20 games.
Killian
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Germantown, MD
Joined: 02.22.2013

Apr 23 @ 4:57 PM ET
Damn guys, I got busy at work today and missed out on some good hockey buzz chat. Where did that Flyers fan go? I want to bet him $19.75 that the Flyers will miss the playoffs again next year
Sell My Monkey
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: United States
Joined: 05.02.2008

Apr 23 @ 5:02 PM ET
Wait, don't we play Buffalo? Anyone got the lineups?

Sens and Flyer trolls please leave while we figure out which team matters for the evening.
madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

Apr 23 @ 5:17 PM ET
Chrissy Neal doing his best Tanner Glass imitation last night....

0pts, -2 in 7 mins of ice time.

Except of course the yellow streak where he ducked a few fights. Glass at least has the guts to get his face pounded.
Sell My Monkey
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: United States
Joined: 05.02.2008

Apr 23 @ 5:30 PM ET
More history coming on the heels of Disco's fastest to 200.

Pens can be the first team EVER to take 23 out of 25.

Amazing the records this team is stacking up.

wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Apr 23 @ 5:38 PM ET
You can do better than that. Your ammunition is dwindling but surely you have more than this.
- canadianpenfan


For a Referee, you seem to be trolling quite a bit.
Killian
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Germantown, MD
Joined: 02.22.2013

Apr 23 @ 5:39 PM ET
More history coming on the heels of Disco's fastest to 200.

Pens can be the first team EVER to take 23 out of 25.

Amazing the records this team is stacking up.

- Sell My Monkey


The penguins all-time record reached .500 last night making it the first time in the history of Pittsburgh sports that all 3 teams were .500 or better.
Killian
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Germantown, MD
Joined: 02.22.2013

Apr 23 @ 5:40 PM ET
For a Referee, you seem to be trolling quite a bit.
- wolfhounds


I'd be willing to bet $19.75 that the referee you are referring to does far less trolling than you do guy
powerhouse
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Columbia , MD
Joined: 11.28.2006

Apr 23 @ 5:42 PM ET
For a Referee, you seem to be trolling quite a bit.
- wolfhounds


He is a join the fun kind of guy. Kind of like the guy who is supposed to keep you from overdrinking because you are meeting your wife. Then he drinks so much you both get looped.
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Apr 23 @ 5:43 PM ET
I was fine with it, should have had his head up.....

Anyone who says his elbows were up is crazy, his elbows were down. What he did was pretty text book really. Im not even sure it warranted a charging penalty, I think the officials gave him a penalty due to the scrum and just pulled one out of their arse.

- walshy66


It didn't look bad to me either.

And to be completely honest, Charging seems like such a subjective call that I could see it going either way. I mean, aren't all hits initiated after a player comes from point A and arrives at point B? Now I can understand Charging being called if a player is stationary in a scrum against the boards and another player lines him up from a distance and fits as many strides as he can fit in before the hit. But I don't think that was the case with the Neil hit.
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Apr 23 @ 5:45 PM ET
He is a join the fun kind of guy. Kind of like the guy who is supposed to keep you from overdrinking because you are meeting your wife. Then he drinks so much you both get looped.
- powerhouse


LMAO

And your wife then dreads every time you say you're going to the bar with him...we've all got that friend.
ursomp71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 05.25.2008

Apr 23 @ 5:51 PM ET
Pittsburgh Penguins‏@penguins
Malkin returns to the lineup tonight vs BUF #Pens

Looks like Letang and Fleury are in as well.
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Apr 23 @ 5:53 PM ET
I'd be willing to bet $19.75 that the referee you are referring to does far less trolling than you do guy
- Killian


Ok. Is 'trolling' just posting in a another team's thread? Cause if so...well, I don't even do that all that often.
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