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Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Apr 21 @ 7:05 PM ET
I have to search but Bill has a better line on him.

ISS says "Superior hockey IQ. 2-way player. Work ethic 2nd to none. Complete player in all 3 zones."

I found this below but take it with a grain of salt.

http://prohockeytalk.nbcs...risons-to-peter-forsberg/

- ob18


Thanks. Whoa forsberg huh. High praise there
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Apr 21 @ 7:07 PM ET
Thanks. Whoa forsberg huh. High praise there
- Just5


Bill thinks it's way too high and compared him to somebody else that I can't remember at the moment.
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Apr 21 @ 7:09 PM ET
Thanks. Whoa forsberg huh. High praise there
- Just5


I've seen so many great reviews on so many of the players expected to go in round 1. Guys compared to so many former NHL greats.

Not sure if its THAT good of a draft year, or people just really like to get excited.
Yosimar89
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Joined: 05.11.2010

Apr 21 @ 7:10 PM ET
OB do you have a one or two line scouting report on lindholm? Haven't seen much banter on him
- Just5

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Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Apr 21 @ 7:11 PM ET
Don't take this the wrong way but if you recognized the problem as a failure to adapt then GM should have noticed it first and either fired him or got him the players his system requires. Maybe Lavy figures that he and his Stanley Cup don't need to adapt to an organization that hasn't won a Cup in 38 years. Who knows?These guys need to figure out what kind of team they want. I feel like the organization is in limbo waiting for the great white hope.
- 2731color


Perhaps I am wrong or the GM doesn't agree with my opinion.

I don't think it was the GM's intention to start the season with the team he had, otherwise, why offer Shea Weber the massive deal? Why be involved in Suter and Parise?

Perhaps the GM feels that he can get players better suited to the coach's system this summer.

I can only offer opinions based on what I see and hear. There's certainly more information than we know of.
section32
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Raleigh, NC
Joined: 02.15.2007

Apr 21 @ 7:14 PM ET
very cool

- FlyerGuy

Very common in Raleigh. Lots of transplant Flyers fans. When the team first got there, every game was more visiting fans than the home fans. It has only been since their first cup run that they had a better following. But I go to every Flyers game each year and we always represent admirably.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Apr 21 @ 7:15 PM ET
I've seen so many great reviews on so many of the players expected to go in round 1. Guys compared to so many former NHL greats.

Not sure if its THAT good of a draft year, or people just really like to get excited.

- flyer_nutter


Part of it is getting excited. Obviously, if people felt there was a good chance Lindholm would be the next Forsberg, he'd be going with the top pick.

Most times when we see a player comparable, it's the ceiling that scouts feel the player has.
FlyerMike18
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 03.07.2009

Apr 21 @ 7:22 PM ET
Thanks. Whoa forsberg huh. High praise there
- Just5


blasphemy, imo
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Apr 21 @ 7:29 PM ET
you're coming at it from a weird angle

his play dropped because of the mono, and thusly his ranking dropped

- Don'tForgetTocchet

not what im saying
dont you think teams were aware that his drop in play was because of the mono?
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Apr 21 @ 7:34 PM ET
Part of it is getting excited. Obviously, if people felt there was a good chance Lindholm would be the next Forsberg, he'd be going with the top pick.

Most times when we see a player comparable, it's the ceiling that scouts feel the player has.

- Jsaquella


Part of my hate with media.

Always making things sound more extreme or exciting than needs to be.

Back when I was a young little poop on our potato farm when we had a hard rain thats what we called it. Not a ground shaking thunderstorm.
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

Apr 21 @ 7:34 PM ET
Assuming we don't win the lottery and do not get a chance to draft Jones, MacKinnon, Drouin, or Nichushkin, who do we target? If we're somewhere between 6th-12th... several of Nurse, Barkov, Zadorov, Lindholm, Monahan, and Ristolainen are going to be available.

I guess it depends on which of the above kids get picked right before us. If a guy like Monahan falls a la Couturier, he'd be a steal anywhere outside of the top 5 IMO. Nurse, Zadorov, and Ristolainen are huge d-men, Barkov is a giant of a kid at forward.

Finish strong boys, but hoping we wind up with the 6th-8th pick this draft.

- Rocktane

We either take Darnell Nurse, or trade Brayden Coburn + our first round pick for a 3rd or 4th overall pick.
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Apr 21 @ 7:36 PM ET
blasphemy, imo
- FlyerMike18

its unbelievable
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Apr 21 @ 7:36 PM ET
blasphemy, imo
- FlyerMike18


Wonder if he wears orthotics
KINGKENZO
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: OMAR COMIN'..Head or Gut?.....Watching regular white people
Joined: 01.10.2008

Apr 21 @ 7:38 PM ET
Bill thinks it's way too high and compared him to somebody else that I can't remember at the moment.
- ob18

P j axelson
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Apr 21 @ 7:41 PM ET
We either take Darnell Nurse, or trade Brayden Coburn + our first round pick for a 3rd or 4th overall pick.
- JAKEw1234


Or take Risto Ristolainen, Ryan Pulock or one of the other good defensemen who will be available between 8-12th overall.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Apr 21 @ 7:46 PM ET
We either take Darnell Nurse, or trade Brayden Coburn + our first round pick for a 3rd or 4th overall pick.
- JAKEw1234


Just looking forward to new jersey winning the lottery with 0.4% chance
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Apr 21 @ 7:47 PM ET
Just looking forward to new jersey winning the lottery with 0.4% chance
- Just5


They wont but wouldnt it be funny in a weird way if the Flyers buyout Bryzgalov and he signs with the Devils?
FlyerMike18
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 03.07.2009

Apr 21 @ 7:47 PM ET
its unbelievable
- Crimsoninja


call me when he gets his first commemorative stamp
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Apr 21 @ 7:50 PM ET
call me when he gets his first commemorative stamp
- FlyerMike18

Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Apr 21 @ 7:56 PM ET
Have really liked Gustafson in his own end for the last 12-15 games. He's gotten much better from last year. Looks stronger in the legs and is winning many more board battles. He should be inked in the 3rd pairing next year
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Apr 21 @ 8:04 PM ET
OB do you have a one or two line scouting report on lindholm? Haven't seen much banter on him
- Just5


Good two-way player, good skater, sees the ice well. He can play center or wing. My comparison players for him are both wingers, but I think he'll end up being a center in the NHL. Best case scenario is a player akin to Loui Eriksson. Worst case, if his offense doesn't develop as hoped would be someone like P.J. Axelsson.

Don'tForgetTocchet
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ground Zero Brooklyn
Joined: 02.08.2007

Apr 21 @ 8:07 PM ET
call me when he gets his first commemorative stamp
- FlyerMike18




Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Apr 21 @ 8:16 PM ET
Good two-way player, good skater, sees the ice well. He can play center or wing. My comparison players for him are both wingers, but I think he'll end up being a center in the NHL. Best case scenario is a player akin to Loui Eriksson. Worst case, if his offense doesn't develop as hoped would be someone like P.J. Axelsson.
- bmeltzer


Certainly likes the physical game from the video and for a European skater that's great to see. Was that him that got steamrolled by Seth jones at the end.


Ah Seth jones. *Sigh*

Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Apr 21 @ 8:16 PM ET
Blues are on time for some scouting
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Apr 21 @ 8:20 PM ET
Good two-way player, good skater, sees the ice well. He can play center or wing. My comparison players for him are both wingers, but I think he'll end up being a center in the NHL. Best case scenario is a player akin to Loui Eriksson. Worst case, if his offense doesn't develop as hoped would be someone like P.J. Axelsson.
- bmeltzer


Im a big Eriksson fan, very underrated imo.

Think I'd also scream like a school girl if the team drafted Zadorov.
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