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Habitants98
Montreal Canadiens
Location: ON
Joined: 02.24.2012

Apr 19 @ 9:40 AM ET
He's at a pace of 48 points in a complete season.

Cap hit comparables to him:

Brouwer who scores around 40 points a year.

Alex Tanguay who scores around 55 points a year

Jarrett Stoll who scores 40 points a year

Antoine Vermette who scores 45 a year

Paul Gaustad who scores 30 a year

Derick Brassard who scores 40 a year

Dave Bolland who scores 40 a year

If you look at that, he's pretty bang on.

- QuebecPride


you're putting him in a list of well known elite defensive forwards and who are also excellent faceoff men, they can afford to only have 40 points DD is no good at any of the other stuff they do
muffin_man
Montreal Canadiens
Location: no problem, as s hole - Eric Engels, NY
Joined: 02.10.2007

Apr 19 @ 9:40 AM ET

- hscesq

I'm here to keep a tight ship.
QuebecPride
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Sherbrooke, QC
Joined: 11.30.2009

Apr 19 @ 9:40 AM ET
sure, pick and choose.
what about Kunitz, Williams, Brown, and Giroux???

- muffin_man


Brown and Kunitz score 55 points a year

Giroux hasn't signed his UFA deal yet, so we're not comparing players in the same situation.

Williams scores 60, when healthy.

Desharnais scored 60 last season.
hscesq
Referee
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Our debt is easily solvable considering the assets owned by the province. QP, NY
Joined: 06.26.2007

Apr 19 @ 9:40 AM ET
you're putting him in a list of well known elite defensive forwards and who are also excellent faceoff men, they can afford to only have 40 points DD is no good at any of the other stuff they do
- Habitants98

I was thinking the same thing.


*shudders*
stormey
Location: it is Babsy turning a boy into a man - JL0961
Joined: 10.13.2005

Apr 19 @ 9:41 AM ET
David Perron is another comparable who is vastly superior in overall game.
- muffin_man

OH OH
muffin_man
Montreal Canadiens
Location: no problem, as s hole - Eric Engels, NY
Joined: 02.10.2007

Apr 19 @ 9:41 AM ET
you're putting him in a list of well known elite defensive forwards and who are also excellent faceoff men, they can afford to only have 40 points DD is no good at any of the other stuff they do
- Habitants98

hscesq
Referee
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Our debt is easily solvable considering the assets owned by the province. QP, NY
Joined: 06.26.2007

Apr 19 @ 9:41 AM ET
Brown and Kunitz score 55 points a year

Giroux hasn't signed his UFA deal yet, so we're not comparing players in the same situation.

Williams scores 60, when healthy.

Desharnais scored 60 last season
.

- QuebecPride

True.

This is this season.
Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme
Joined: 01.20.2009

Apr 19 @ 9:42 AM ET
guys I'm really hoping we're not talking about Desharnais here.
- dt99999


Pas payé pour la mettre dedans. Pour ça qui joue sur le PP non-stop.
Habitants98
Montreal Canadiens
Location: ON
Joined: 02.24.2012

Apr 19 @ 9:42 AM ET
I was thinking the same thing.


*shudders*

- hscesq


heh
stormey
Location: it is Babsy turning a boy into a man - JL0961
Joined: 10.13.2005

Apr 19 @ 9:43 AM ET
Pas payé pour la mettre dedans. Pour ça qui joue sur le PP non-stop.
- Pecafan Fan

DD = Dustin Brown.....apparently.
QuebecPride
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Sherbrooke, QC
Joined: 11.30.2009

Apr 19 @ 9:43 AM ET
All of those guys don't suck as bad a DD defensively though...
- BashCH


They don't suck as much as DD defensively, but they don't produce as much(most of them). It evens out. It's not a bargain, but it's not a bad contract either.
dt99999
Montreal Canadiens
Location: wow, hope that's sarcasim
Joined: 11.18.2008

Apr 19 @ 9:43 AM ET
Pas payé pour la mettre dedans. Pour ça qui joue sur le PP non-stop.
- Pecafan Fan

une fois y'allais compter pis j'ai entendu Therrien gueuler "noooooooooooooooon" fait qu'il la crissé dans l'coin.
muffin_man
Montreal Canadiens
Location: no problem, as s hole - Eric Engels, NY
Joined: 02.10.2007

Apr 19 @ 9:43 AM ET
Brown and Kunitz score 55 points a year

Giroux hasn't signed his UFA deal yet, so we're not comparing players in the same situation.

Williams scores 60, when healthy.

Desharnais scored 60 last season.

- QuebecPride

Kunitz is likely to hit 60 this year (if he hasn't already) so if we're going to talk about career years as norms, gfy
Brown is a way more complete and desirable player
Williams had 76 points one year so his career year is WAY better than DD's.

Any more arguments to make?
Habitants98
Montreal Canadiens
Location: ON
Joined: 02.24.2012

Apr 19 @ 9:43 AM ET

- muffin_man

superior? defensively
elite? on faceoffs
pete26
Montreal Canadiens
Location: (HE, HIM, HIS), ON
Joined: 11.20.2008

Apr 19 @ 9:44 AM ET
They don't suck as much as DD defensively, but they don't produce as much(most of them). It evens out. It's not a bargain, but it's not a bad contract either.
- QuebecPride


You go to bed arguing.

You wake up arguing.

You will make a fine wife someday....
BashCH
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The legendary Don Cherry agrees with me..., QC
Joined: 04.27.2010

Apr 19 @ 9:44 AM ET
Brown and Kunitz score 55 points a year

Giroux hasn't signed his UFA deal yet, so we're not comparing players in the same situation.

Williams scores 60, when healthy.

Desharnais scored 60 last season.

- QuebecPride


Cole had 65 last season...
muffin_man
Montreal Canadiens
Location: no problem, as s hole - Eric Engels, NY
Joined: 02.10.2007

Apr 19 @ 9:44 AM ET
superior?
- Habitants98

defensive forwards is good.
hscesq
Referee
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Our debt is easily solvable considering the assets owned by the province. QP, NY
Joined: 06.26.2007

Apr 19 @ 9:44 AM ET
You go to bed arguing.

You wake up arguing.

You will make a fine wife someday....

- pete26



As long as he doesn't cook or clean.
hscesq
Referee
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Our debt is easily solvable considering the assets owned by the province. QP, NY
Joined: 06.26.2007

Apr 19 @ 9:45 AM ET
Cole had 65 last season...
- BashCH

Awful trade.
stormey
Location: it is Babsy turning a boy into a man - JL0961
Joined: 10.13.2005

Apr 19 @ 9:45 AM ET
Kunitz is likely to hit 60 this year (if he hasn't already) so if we're going to talk about career years as norms, gfy
Brown is a way more complete and desirable player
Williams had 76 points one year so his career year is WAY better than DD's.

Any more arguments to make?

- muffin_man


My guess? Yes.
_nay_
Boston Bruins
Location: "aaaargh my leg!!!" -Max Pacioretty
Joined: 04.06.2011

Apr 19 @ 9:45 AM ET
He's at a pace of 48 points in a complete season.

Cap hit comparables to him:

Brouwer who scores around 40 points a year.

Alex Tanguay who scores around 55 points a year

Jarrett Stoll who scores 40 points a year

Antoine Vermette who scores 45 a year

Paul Gaustad who scores 30 a year

Derick Brassard who scores 40 a year

Dave Bolland who scores 40 a year

If you look at that, he's pretty bang on.

- QuebecPride


I actually hope Eller turns out like some of those guys.
muffin_man
Montreal Canadiens
Location: no problem, as s hole - Eric Engels, NY
Joined: 02.10.2007

Apr 19 @ 9:45 AM ET
You go to bed arguing.

You wake up arguing.

You will make a fine wife someday....

- pete26

He needs to pick up another hobby. Any suggestions?
BashCH
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The legendary Don Cherry agrees with me..., QC
Joined: 04.27.2010

Apr 19 @ 9:45 AM ET
They don't suck as much as DD defensively, but they don't produce as much(most of them). It evens out. It's not a bargain, but it's not a bad contract either.
- QuebecPride


No it doesn't...I'd take any of those players on my team before DD
_nay_
Boston Bruins
Location: "aaaargh my leg!!!" -Max Pacioretty
Joined: 04.06.2011

Apr 19 @ 9:45 AM ET
Cole had 65 last season...
- BashCH

Cole never had 65 playing with Staal, so DD > Staal
Habitants98
Montreal Canadiens
Location: ON
Joined: 02.24.2012

Apr 19 @ 9:46 AM ET
defensive forwards is good.
- muffin_man

ok well GOOD defensive forwards

and Elite on faceoffs (can't argue that, between Stoll, Vermette, Gaustad and Bolland)
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