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Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Apr 18 @ 1:00 PM ET
no reason to give rosebud 2yrs. he should have to prove his worth every yr.
- isaiah520

like I said to the mayor, Shelley 3y @ 1.1 vs Rosehill 2y @ 675

It's a relative win.

or babysteps as DFT says.

I would have signed up Hall first and then see if there was spot for Rosehill, but whatever, for a 12th/13th forward it's not worth stressing out over.
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Apr 18 @ 1:01 PM ET
Will Elias and Brodeur ever retire?

I'm sick and tired of watching these guys.

- 77rams

I'm with ya...
dillpx183
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Marietta, PA
Joined: 02.26.2011

Apr 18 @ 1:02 PM ET
yay! my ban is over
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Apr 18 @ 1:04 PM ET
yay! my ban is over
- dillpx183

Welcome back. Have a good day. Talk to you again next month.
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Apr 18 @ 1:04 PM ET
yay! my ban is over
- dillpx183

congrads sir
dillpx183
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Marietta, PA
Joined: 02.26.2011

Apr 18 @ 1:06 PM ET
Welcome back. Have a good day. Talk to you again next month.
- mayorofangrytown


it's a date
Dkos
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gritty, PA
Joined: 01.15.2007

Apr 18 @ 1:09 PM ET
Sorry to be a wet blanket, but these wins are hurting our draft position. I would love to see a blog from Bill listing the most likely amnesty buyout players on each team and the impact to the UFA market. It would seem to hold UFA prices down since the market has more players.
- section32


Speaking of the amnesty clause...what happens if the amnestied play is signed by another team after he's amnestied? Does he still receive 2/3 (or whatever the percentage is) of his old salary plus whatever he signs for?
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Apr 18 @ 1:15 PM ET
Speaking of the amnesty clause...what happens if the amnestied play is signed by another team after he's amnestied? Does he still receive 2/3 (or whatever the percentage is) of his old salary plus whatever he signs for?
- Dkos


Yes, they receive both.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Apr 18 @ 1:27 PM ET
no reason to give rosebud 2yrs. he should have to prove his worth every yr.
- isaiah520


There's no harm in giving him two years. The Flyers traded for him. They obviously like what they see in him. He skates well, forechecks well, and provides toughness to the lineup. And the price is right for a depth forward.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Apr 18 @ 1:32 PM ET
That Pittsburgh team had a still-able Gonchar and Letang. Maybe not true #1 defensemen, but 1a types, who both had great post seasons. Carolina, not so much.

But look at every other team:
06/07 - Neidermayer & Pronger
07/08 - Lidstrom
09/10 - Keith & Seabrook
10/11 - Chara
11/12 - Doughty

All guys who are, to me, legitimate #1 defensemen. So yes, it's not a necessity, but it certainly helps. By the same token, for these "2 deep" top notch centers, here are the top2 centers on winners since 05/06:

05/06 - Staal & Brind'Amour
06/07 - Getzlaf & Pahlsson
07/08 - Datsyuk & Filppula
08/09 - Crosby & Malkin
09/10 - Toews & Bollan
10/11 - Krejci & Bergeron
11/12 - Kopitar & Richards/Carter

I wouldn't call Pahlsson, Filppula, or Bolland top-notch, and Brindy is a stretch.

The point is, there are similarities and dissimilarities between every Cup winning team. If there was an easy formula to building one, every team would look the same. It takes just the right mix of young and experience, defensive and offensive depth, and team cohesiveness. Yes, Shea Weber would help, and I'd love to have him. But he wouldn't turn this team into a Cup contender all by himself, and neither would another top-6 center. That said, with the current age and recent injuries to certain players on the Flyer's defense, there should be a directive to look into upgrading it without depleting the offense.

- jmatchett383

a selke winner "is a stretch at top notch center"?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Apr 18 @ 1:34 PM ET
a selke winner "is a stretch at top notch center"?
- JoeRussomanno



Yea, I couldn't understand how Brind'Amour was a stretch as a top Center in 06 either.
FlyersGrace
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Pronger "Play the game puffnuts!" , DE
Joined: 07.02.2012

Apr 18 @ 2:12 PM ET
We must be winning it's stupid quiet in here! I went away for a bunch of meetings and was like. Wow, gonna have pages to relax through! and yeah not so much...
SMS4016
Joined: 01.27.2011

Apr 18 @ 2:19 PM ET
yay! my ban is over
- dillpx183

How Long was your ban? I got 4 hours for 1st offense
GirouxForTheShow
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Fuck you raff
Joined: 01.04.2009

Apr 18 @ 2:20 PM ET
We must be winning it's stupid quiet in here! I went away for a bunch of meetings and was like. Wow, gonna have pages to relax through! and yeah not so much...
- FlyersGrace


Once Elias scores 30 tonight and Brodeur shuts down the Flyers non-potent offense as well as launches a bullet from his crease that Bryz will nonchalantly duck at, then we will have stuff to complain about...
SMS4016
Joined: 01.27.2011

Apr 18 @ 2:22 PM ET
There's no harm in giving him two years. The Flyers traded for him. They obviously like what they see in him. He skates well, forechecks well, and provides toughness to the lineup. And the price is right for a depth forward.
- MJL

ExaCtly... We always have a tough guy so 2 years at under 700 k for someone who can actual play 5 to 7 min a game is a really good deal. And he doesn't get his a$$ whooped every fight either which is a plus
FlyerGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.18.2007

Apr 18 @ 2:24 PM ET
Bryz is starting tonight, eh? Not a big deal, but I'd rather see Mason for the remainder of the games.
GirouxForTheShow
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Fuck you raff
Joined: 01.04.2009

Apr 18 @ 2:26 PM ET
Bryz is starting tonight, eh? Not a big deal, but I'd rather see Mason for the remainder of the games.
- FlyerGuy


Im sure they will go back and forth for the reminder of the season
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Apr 18 @ 2:26 PM ET
like I said to the mayor, Shelley 3y @ 1.1 vs Rosehill 2y @ 675

It's a relative win.

or babysteps as DFT says.

I would have signed up Hall first and then see if there was spot for Rosehill, but whatever, for a 12th/13th forward it's not worth stressing out over.

- Marc D

not the biggest deal, i agree, but it's more about contract limit flexibility. i understand that walker, shelley, et al are history. why create another lead weight if we need to lose a contract? agree about hall, of course.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Apr 18 @ 2:27 PM ET
Bryz is starting tonight, eh? Not a big deal, but I'd rather see Mason for the remainder of the games.
- FlyerGuy

if you want the flyers to win out play mason if you wan a better draft pick play bryz it's a tough choice i like watching mason but the draft pick just screams at me
FlyerGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.18.2007

Apr 18 @ 2:38 PM ET
if you want the flyers to win out play mason if you wan a better draft pick play bryz it's a tough choice i like watching mason but the draft pick just screams at me
- 2Real

not so sure it's that cut and dried, but I'd prefer to see Mason because I wonder if his ability to move the puck might give the Devils some fits. It seemed to stop some Rangers rushes, but on the other hand they did have about 20 shots in the 3rd period.

maybe, if Lava stays, having a goalie who can stick handle a bit becomes more important. I want to see more of how the team plays in front of Mason.

the draft will take care of itself. we might get a better draft position by losing these games, but we're not necessarily going to get a better player.
FlyerGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.18.2007

Apr 18 @ 2:40 PM ET
Im sure they will go back and forth for the reminder of the season
- GirouxForTheShow

yeah, I'm sure you're right.
GirouxForTheShow
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Fuck you raff
Joined: 01.04.2009

Apr 18 @ 2:41 PM ET
not so sure it's that cut and dried, but I'd prefer to see Mason because I wonder if his ability to move the puck might give the Devils some fits. It seemed to stop some Rangers rushes, but on the other hand they did have about 20 shots in the 3rd period.

maybe, if Lava stays, having a goalie who can stick handle a bit becomes more important. I want to see more of how the team plays in front of Mason.

the draft will take care of itself. we might get a better draft position by losing these games, but we're not necessarily going to get a better player.

- FlyerGuy


This. Losing helps you get a better draft position and teaches the kids that sometimes losing is OK. Not the kind of culture I want. Battle, fight hard, every shift every game no matter what. We have a .4% chance of making the playoffs, so battle for it. Regardless of likelihood.
wilsonecho91
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A dream to some...a nightmare to others, AK
Joined: 11.13.2007

Apr 18 @ 2:45 PM ET
not so sure it's that cut and dried, but I'd prefer to see Mason because I wonder if his ability to move the puck might give the Devils some fits. It seemed to stop some Rangers rushes, but on the other hand they did have about 20 shots in the 3rd period.

maybe, if Lava stays, having a goalie who can stick handle a bit becomes more important. I want to see more of how the team plays in front of Mason.

the draft will take care of itself. we might get a better draft position by losing these games, but we're not necessarily going to get a better player.

- FlyerGuy


was interesting last night hearing Dreger (I think, could've been McKenzie) on NHL Tonight saying that it's likely either Bryz stays and Lavy goes or Lavy stays and Bryz goes.
FlyersGrace
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Pronger "Play the game puffnuts!" , DE
Joined: 07.02.2012

Apr 18 @ 2:47 PM ET
was interesting last night hearing Dreger (I think, could've been McKenzie) on NHL Tonight saying that it's likely either Bryz stays and Lavy goes or Lavy stays and Bryz goes.
- wilsonecho91

IMO, if Snider is calling the shots Lavi goes and Bryz stays.
If Homer is I think Bryz goes and Lavi stays. Going to be an interesting summer.
FlyerGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.18.2007

Apr 18 @ 2:49 PM ET
was interesting last night hearing Dreger (I think, could've been McKenzie) on NHL Tonight saying that it's likely either Bryz stays and Lavy goes or Lavy stays and Bryz goes.
- wilsonecho91

I didn't hear that, but it makes sense.

IF Lavy does stay - and with Homer that's a pretty big if, it does seem that Mason's ability to move the puck up the ice could be a valuable commodity, especially if the Flyers have trouble fixing the D in the short term.
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