I like it ending.

The Wings have been held up as the God model of an organization for about 234678 years now and I am a little sick of it.

They got lucky and drafted one of the best Dmen of all time, who played his whole career there, and they got very lucky with some draft picks that turned out to be superstars.

They have not been able to maintain that, because it wasn't *all* about how brilliant they were. A lot of their success, ANY team's success, is luck.
- Aetherial

I agree with this but the Wings had a long drought prior to getting Yzerman, Lidstrom, et al so I was glad they had a good run at the top of the heap. Prior to that the organization had traded away a lot of their good young talent (Marcel Dionne, Garry Unger, Dale McCourt, etc).

they were way ahead of the curve when it came to euro scouting

thats why they were drafting superstars in the middle rounds.. because nobody else knew about them

the other teams have caught up now is all.

but it wasnt luck.. it was forsight by their management. so i got to give props
- Dozzer

Without going back and looking, I would say that when Datsyuk was drafted, all teams had plenty of Euro scouts.

I do remember they were ahead of the curve though and doing a better job of it. Was Anders Hedberg one of their Euro scouts?

Maybe nobody watched? I know after Washington's second goal that this was gonna be one of those nights, so I turned it off.
- Aetherial

I didn't watch, I knew they were going to lose it(back to back, rusty goalie, team was slow night before, Washington's hot) so I went to Jurassic Park.

I agree with this but the Wings had a long drought prior to getting Yzerman, Lidstrom, et al so I was glad they had a good run at the top of the heap. Prior to that the organization had traded away a lot of their good young talent (Marcel Dionne, Garry Unger, Dale McCourt, etc).
- TML60

good names I am not sure I would put McCourt in the same list as Unger or Dionne

oh.. i laugh at the fans.. but the team itself i respect lol
- Dozzer

Agreed. The organization from the ownership to the ice is first class.

I didn't watch, I knew they were going to lose it(back to back, rusty goalie, team was slow night before, Washington's hot) so I went to Jurassic Park.
- Feeling Glucky?

How was it?

All I have to say, other than I need a coffee
- RickJames77

i need ten more lol

then i got to go move a huge cooler after work (like the ones at the grocery stores).. 7 feet high x 4.5 feet long x 3 feet deep

they were way ahead of the curve when it came to euro scouting

thats why they were drafting superstars in the middle rounds.. because nobody else knew about them

the other teams have caught up now is all.

but it wasnt luck.. it was forsight by their management. so i got to give props
- Dozzer

Actually it was the Leafs who were ahead of the curve. Back in the 70's they brought in the two Swedes, when nobody even knew Europe existed.

Their problem was that Gregory left, and it was 10 years of mediocrity that ensued. They pioneered the european players, then abandoned that fertile ground.

Don't agree the Leafs have been drafting Euros for years... they got lucky.. with Zetterburg etc...

They also developed them well.. by mixing them on top lines with veterans.. Quinn used to play them off of the rock.. with Domi & Belak.. and when Domi would make a mistake the kid would get benched and be sent back down to the minors.
- DoctorNHL

people have drafted euros.. but it was the wings who really put a full scouting compliment there first..

before it was hit and miss.. not a lot of time and effort was dedicated to it

trust me, the wings were the leaders in this area,... big time

I agree with this but the Wings had a long drought prior to getting Yzerman, Lidstrom, et al so I was glad they had a good run at the top of the heap. Prior to that the organization had traded away a lot of their good young talent (Marcel Dionne, Garry Unger, Dale McCourt, etc).
- TML60

Made your account today, huh?

i need ten more lol

then i got to go move a huge cooler after work (like the ones at the grocery stores).. 7 feet high x 4.5 feet long x 3 feet deep
- Dozzer

Forget caffine and Wheaties, try bath salts!

Made your account today, huh?
- jbold

Jbold - the ref without a stripe

Jbold - the ref without a stripe
- big_dion

10 bucks says it's UG.

i need ten more lol

then i got to go move a huge cooler after work (like the ones at the grocery stores).. 7 feet high x 4.5 feet long x 3 feet deep
- Dozzer

Have fun with that

...I'm swamped this week

Organizational Behavior 10 pg take home test due monday, Finance Assignment due wednesday, OB test wednesday, chemistry test thursday, another OB test friday, a chem paper due friday, and last but not least a finance assignment due friday

All with a massive project looming over my head that is due next wednesday

Toskla has resurfaced

10 bucks says it's UG.
- jbold

(frank) cares?


Your account was created in 2010.

Actually it was the Leafs who were ahead of the curve. Back in the 70's they brought in the two Swedes, when nobody even knew Europe existed.

Their problem was that Gregory left, and it was 10 years of mediocrity that ensued. They pioneered the european players, then abandoned that fertile ground.
- faceto27

gah, not in the mood to argue today

i never once said teams didnt draft euros prior to the wings

i said the wings were the first to make it a priority and put a full time scouting compliment in europe

look it up, its true

Jbold - the ref without a stripe
- big_dion

Unless you include his underwear.

Unless you include his underwear.
- As_I_See_It

Jokes on you.

I don't wear any






...

Jbold - the ref without a stripe
- big_dion

Made your account today, huh?
- jbold

already checked on it

not one matching IP

so either its someone skirting the edges or an honest new poster

10 bucks says it's UG.
- jbold

haha you might be right actually!!!

OH UG IS THAT YOU?

gah, not in the mood to argue today

i never once said teams didnt draft euros prior to the wings

i said the wings were the first to make it a priority and put a full time scouting compliment in europe

look it up, its true
- Dozzer

You love to argue.

Btw, I have a 11:00 tee off time.

gah, not in the mood to argue today

i never once said teams didnt draft euros prior to the wings

i said the wings were the first to make it a priority and put a full time scouting compliment in europe

look it up, its true
- Dozzer

to think anything different....you would only be kidding yourself.
i do not like the wings, not 1 bit...but they are a first class organization and they also started the euro trend. 100%.

already checked on it

not one matching IP

so either its someone skirting the edges or an honest new poster
- Dozzer

An honest new poster?


Those don't exist anymore.