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eayost
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Into the Void, PA
Joined: 04.14.2010

Apr 17 @ 10:36 AM ET
Eh, I'm ok with all of that. They don't hold us at gun point to buy that stuff, although they did hold the season ticket holders at gun point to buy tickets to all 3 events (Flyers, Alums, and Phantoms).

I still say they could do that outdoor event in Philly every year and Flyers fans would sell it out, every year. It was a great opportunity for people who don't follow the team obsessively or go to the Wells Fargo Center weekly to see the team play in a really cool setting. The whole thing was a blast.

- johndewar


They've already been doing the Heritage Classic right? So they've already been doing another outdoor game. Maybe the Heritage Classic is not as exciting to fans not at the game as the Winter Classic due to marketing, but I bet it's special to the people that go to the game. Each one of these will be special to the people/families who go.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Apr 17 @ 10:37 AM ET
They've already been doing the Heritage Classic right? So they've already been doing another outdoor game. Maybe the Heritage Classic is not as exciting to fans not at the game as the Winter Classic due to marketing, but I bet it's special to the people that go to the game. Each one of these will be special to the people/families who go.
- eayost


Exactly.
Don'tForgetTocchet
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ground Zero Brooklyn
Joined: 02.08.2007

Apr 17 @ 10:39 AM ET
Thank you. It's not even a discussion. If he can't play, LTIR him.
- bradleyc4



hahaha even laught-er than i was
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Apr 17 @ 10:39 AM ET
i still think there are some good options for D out there in the offseason...


mcbain, diaz, ballard (im assuming he gets bought out), might be some good pieces...

the year after when timonen retires though....that's when it's gonna get tricky.

- sarmen25


That year there will be more prospective UFAs, and the kids they drafted and traded for this past year will be a step closer. They're also likely to have a little more cap room to work with after the 2013-14 season
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Apr 17 @ 10:41 AM ET
And hats!


- wolfhounds

How did I forget those?
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Apr 17 @ 10:41 AM ET
Thank you. It's not even a discussion. If he can't play, LTIR him.
- bradleyc4


If it wasn't for the glut of young centermen needing to step into bigger roles combined with the cap dropping, I'd even be hesitant to nuke Briere.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Apr 17 @ 10:42 AM ET
They've already been doing the Heritage Classic right? So they've already been doing another outdoor game. Maybe the Heritage Classic is not as exciting to fans not at the game as the Winter Classic due to marketing, but I bet it's special to the people that go to the game. Each one of these will be special to the people/families who go.
- eayost


True, but that was 1 US game on NYs day and 1 Game in Canada on Canada Day (or some Canadian holiday). It will be cool for the people to go, but it's saturation for me. I won't make an effort to tune in to them, and I probably won't go to the next Flyers outdoor game because the tix will be $$$.
sarmen25
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 03.09.2006

Apr 17 @ 10:44 AM ET
That year there will be more prospective UFAs, and the kids they drafted and traded for this past year will be a step closer. They're also likely to have a little more cap room to work with after the 2013-14 season
- Jsaquella


ya...just checked the UFAs in 2014 and there are some good ones out there..but i also think teams will re-sign them before becoming UFA...



Bouwmeester, Jay »
Boyle, Dan »
Phaneuf, Dion »
Timonen, Kimmo »
Markov, Andrei »
Pitkanen, Joni »
Komisarek, Mike »
Gilbert, Tom »
Meszaros, Andrej »
Kuba, Filip »
Quincey, Kyle »
Salo, Sami »
Orpik, Brooks »
Hjalmarsson, Niklas »
Letang, Kris »
Schultz, Nick »
Mitchell, Willie »
Tallinder, Henrik »
Girardi, Dan »
Robidas, Stephane »
Seidenberg, Dennis »

Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Apr 17 @ 10:44 AM ET
True, but that was 1 US game on NYs day and 1 Game in Canada on Canada Day (or some Canadian holiday). It will be cool for the people to go, but it's saturation for me. I won't make an effort to tune in to them, and I probably won't go to the next Flyers outdoor game because the tix will be $$$.
- jmatchett383


To be honest, for the non-Flyers winter classics, the only one I made an effort to tune into was the Pittsburgh-Buffalo game.
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Apr 17 @ 10:45 AM ET
hahaha even laught-er than i was
- Don'tForgetTocchet


Don't make fun of the laught kids.

Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Apr 17 @ 10:45 AM ET
ya...just checked the UFAs in 2014 and there are some good ones out there..but i also think teams will re-sign them before becoming UFA...



Bouwmeester, Jay »
Boyle, Dan »
Phaneuf, Dion »
Timonen, Kimmo »
Markov, Andrei »
Pitkanen, Joni »
Komisarek, Mike »
Gilbert, Tom »
Meszaros, Andrej »
Kuba, Filip »
Quincey, Kyle »
Salo, Sami »
Orpik, Brooks »
Hjalmarsson, Niklas »
Letang, Kris »
Schultz, Nick »
Mitchell, Willie »
Tallinder, Henrik »
Girardi, Dan »
Robidas, Stephane »
Seidenberg, Dennis »

- sarmen25


Possible, but hopefully the Flyers will add one or two this summer who can be locked up for four years or so
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Apr 17 @ 10:45 AM ET
i'm a known mez apologist, but i think he proved he could play after the achilles surgery. he was their best defenseman in several games before the shoulder stuff imo
- Don'tForgetTocchet

if he comes back healthy next season and can be the puck mover on the 2nd or 3rd pairing and get 2nd PP unit time, that would be outstanding, best case scenario

with Gus and now maybe even Ollie looking like possible viable options for the third pair, they have a decent fall back position if Mez isn't healthy





johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Apr 17 @ 10:46 AM ET
ya...just checked the UFAs in 2014 and there are some good ones out there..but i also think teams will re-sign them before becoming UFA...



Bouwmeester, Jay »
Boyle, Dan »
Phaneuf, Dion »
Timonen, Kimmo »
Markov, Andrei »
Pitkanen, Joni »
Komisarek, Mike »
Gilbert, Tom »
Meszaros, Andrej »
Kuba, Filip »
Quincey, Kyle »
Salo, Sami »
Orpik, Brooks »
Hjalmarsson, Niklas »
Letang, Kris »
Schultz, Nick »
Mitchell, Willie »
Tallinder, Henrik »
Girardi, Dan »
Robidas, Stephane »
Seidenberg, Dennis »

- sarmen25


Both Orpik and Letang are on that list and I suspect Ray Shero will find a way to keep them both along with their high priced centers.
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Apr 17 @ 10:47 AM ET
How did I forget those?
- BulliesPhan87


He does look deranged. Jim Carrey-ish.

And sorry for the pics, but lack of sleep is making me giddy.
bradleyc4
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the jewelry is still out
Joined: 01.16.2007

Apr 17 @ 10:48 AM ET
If it wasn't for the glut of young centermen needing to step into bigger roles combined with the cap dropping, I'd even be hesitant to nuke Briere.
- Jsaquella


I want to nuke Briere's contract, even just to try to upgrade the RW position.

Would love to see Nathan Horton here on the right side of the 2nd line. As long as he doesn't want a "Briere-esque" contract.
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Apr 17 @ 10:48 AM ET
To be honest, for the non-Flyers winter classics, the only one I made an effort to tune into was the Pittsburgh-Buffalo game.
- Jsaquella


Way too much hoopla. One of the reasons I'm not a big Super Bowl fan. The product rarely lives up to the hype.
bradleyc4
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the jewelry is still out
Joined: 01.16.2007

Apr 17 @ 10:49 AM ET
if he comes back healthy next season and can be the puck mover on the 2nd or 3rd pairing and get 2nd PP unit time, that would be outstanding, best case scenario

with Gus and now maybe even Ollie looking like possible viable options for the third pair, they have a decent fall back position if Mez isn't healthy

- Marc D


Achilles injuries are deadly to athletes, though. Hopefully he can bounce back for at least one more season.
sarmen25
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 03.09.2006

Apr 17 @ 10:49 AM ET
Possible, but hopefully the Flyers will add one or two this summer who can be locked up for four years or so
- Jsaquella


i think it's definitely worth giving St. Louis a call and see what's going on with their 2 FA defencemen...

not saying it'll be easy to land either of them, but i'm more than willing to bet that Homer will look around the league for some upgrade...

hell, he got Carle and Meszaros here, and no one really thought that would happen...


Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Apr 17 @ 10:50 AM ET
speaking of Gagne, what UFA's do you see coming back?
- nastyflyergirl

Would love Gagne back next year.

Gagne/Couts/Talbot (or another right winger, ?Read) and you have the makings of a very good two way line.

Gagne has really impressed me the way he has been playing since coming back here.
Could he stay healthy in an 82 game season?
MrBigglesworth
Location: PA
Joined: 01.30.2008

Apr 17 @ 10:50 AM ET
I agree. Will also add that he has improved in the course of each of his two seasons since turning pro. At start of 2011-12, I was concerned he'd be ECHL-bound and never heard from again. Now he's a player who has shown he is a worthy callup. With another year of improvement, he'd be a viable third-pairing option in a full NHL season.
- bmeltzer



hows Mark Alt progressing?
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Apr 17 @ 10:51 AM ET
I want to nuke Briere's contract, even just to try to upgrade the RW position.

Would love to see Nathan Horton here on the right side of the 2nd line. As long as he doesn't want a "Briere-esque" contract.

- bradleyc4


That's fair and valid. Horton would be an interesting guy to add
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Apr 17 @ 10:52 AM ET
Achilles injuries are deadly to athletes, though. Hopefully he can bounce back for at least one more season.
- bradleyc4


I'm not expecting him to fully recover, but would love it if he does.
He has a great one timer from the blue line, something they sorely need.

Speaking of which, Gus got that shot off last night pretty quickly!
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Apr 17 @ 10:52 AM ET
I want to nuke Briere's contract, even just to try to upgrade the RW position.

Would love to see Nathan Horton here on the right side of the 2nd line. As long as he doesn't want a "Briere-esque" contract.

- bradleyc4

someone is going to overpay him
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Apr 17 @ 10:54 AM ET
Yup, agree.

Was just throwing it out there since folks were hand wringing about his contract.

- johndewar



Here is the issue that is being overlooked. You absolutely could place Meszaros on LTIR and grab the exemption. But to do what with? Let's look back into history a short time ago. The Flyers counted on Meszaros for this Season. So after all the player moves were made. All of the good Free Agents are signed. Meszaros got hurt in the Summer time. So if it turns out that Meszaros can't stay healthy, or isn't ready for the Season. You're back in the realm of adding the Foster's of the World. Or calling up a Phantom. Or making a trade. So really, it's something that needs to be figured out much sooner then later. Like by the end of June, if they're going to count on Meszaros or not.
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Apr 17 @ 10:55 AM ET
hows Mark Alt progressing?
- MrBigglesworth


Has looked very good in his 3 games with the Phantoms to date.
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