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kencan98
Joined: 07.11.2009

Apr 17 @ 8:11 PM ET
Know what's funny.. how at the deadline.. everyone was talking about how we needed to trade him because JT needs to be Capt & he wasnt resigning.

Now we are in a solid playoff race & we didnt trade him & the tunes have changed...

XxNYIxX

- XxNYIxX


If the price was right he should have been moved. I'm assuming (or hoping) that he was at least shopped around. It's also hard to tell what's going on behind closed doors. Maybe they already have a deal worked out but are waiting till the end of the season. Who knows.

It also depends on the teams interested. If Montreal was interested, it's a NO! If Florida or Colorado is interested and the return is a second, it's a done deal IMO.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Apr 17 @ 8:51 PM ET
Its insane to think that it would have been a good idea for a team that hasn't made the playoffs in five or six years and is within striking distance of ending that streak to trade its captain, its top PP QB, away at the deadline for a second round draft pick. That move would have sent a message to the players that management doesn't believe in them and would have told the fans management doesn't think this team is good enough to get into the playoffs.

This team hasn't had a shot at a playoff spot in years. I'd rather have them take that shot than weaken their chances all for the sake of making sure you get a God*amn second round or later draft pick for a pending UFA.

- Jethro09

Of course we are speculating that the offer was a second round pick
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Apr 17 @ 8:53 PM ET
I agree with most of what you said.

But you do all of that while Boyes is on the team. You don't let him go and see if it works because if it doesn't you're screwed. At least if he's there we have a plan B.

Again, signing him for another year, bringing a prospect or two up and letting them see the first line, and trading Boyes at the deadline if things work with the prospect is the smart move.

Letting Boyes go and hoping that the prospect works without any other plan is a stupid move.

Iginla isn't signing here. No other big name player is either. So my opinion is they stick with what they got while mixing in the prospects and trade Boyes if the prospects work.

- kencan98

What is this thing you have with Boyes? Serious question?
XxNYIxX
New York Islanders
Location: Clayton, NC
Joined: 02.26.2007

Apr 17 @ 9:18 PM ET
What is this thing you have with Boyes? Serious question?
- Cptmjl



Maybe he's a priest!


XxNYIxX
XxNYIxX
New York Islanders
Location: Clayton, NC
Joined: 02.26.2007

Apr 17 @ 9:18 PM ET
Maybe he's a priest!

- XxNYIxX



I HAD to!!

XxNYIxX
NewYawkIslandez
New York Islanders
Location: NYC, NY
Joined: 01.10.2008

Apr 17 @ 9:48 PM ET
Could be back this week at some point. Does he replace Martinek?
- Vukota

I love having Radek for depth. I don't remember what his contract terms are and to be honest, i'm to lazy to look it up. Always had a soft spot for this guy, he has given the Isles a lot of good years (when he wasn't injured). My favorite Martinek moment was years back when he was the first star of the game and he skated out to center ice and waved both of his hands up in the air at the crowd. Someone had to skate out onto the ice to get him to come back. Classic!
He also provides offense here and there and moves the puck well. Why not resign him to a 1-2 year deal at minimal money to be a depth guy. Im sure he would sign for anything.
Ur Not Me
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: 11.30.2008

Apr 17 @ 10:05 PM ET
I love having Radek for depth. I don't remember what his contract terms are and to be honest, i'm to lazy to look it up. Always had a soft spot for this guy, he has given the Isles a lot of good years (when he wasn't injured). My favorite Martinek moment was years back when he was the first star of the game and he skated out to center ice and waved both of his hands up in the air at the crowd. Someone had to skate out onto the ice to get him to come back. Classic!
He also provides offense here and there and moves the puck well. Why not resign him to a 1-2 year deal at minimal money to be a depth guy. Im sure he would sign for anything.

- NewYawkIslandez



Could be his last season, he might retire at years end,
Danformo
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 03.22.2012

Apr 17 @ 10:14 PM ET
ok i get we shouldn't mess with the line chemistry..but can we all agree Boyes should be taken off the PP unit?
mighty13duck
New York Islanders
Location: New Building. New Owner. New coach Nassau County, NY
Joined: 01.26.2009

Apr 17 @ 10:30 PM ET
Love how nbc is in love with the Pens
Railbait
New York Islanders
Location: Captain Tavares, NY
Joined: 10.10.2011

Apr 17 @ 11:15 PM ET
I love having Radek for depth. Why not resign him to a 1-2 year deal at minimal money to be a depth guy.
- NewYawkIslandez


I agree!

The only issue is if he can stay healthy. He's a very steady, reliable defenseman.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Apr 17 @ 11:43 PM ET
http://www.nyiskinny.com/...nch-playoff-berth-as.html

Important info. Big few days ahead.
Spartiarti
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: 09.04.2008

Apr 18 @ 7:01 AM ET
PAP's doing fine actually

And if someone offers our capt a nice payday.. which will happen.. he's gone

XxNYIxX

- XxNYIxX



Yes pa is enjoying a last place finish in the west. And a nice start to the golf season.
Hockey is not just all about putting up points only.

I'm not saying he is reason why launche are missing playoffs, but last check isles are doing just fine without him.

As for blaming boyes only. Wake up. Moulson has fanned on a record amount of tap in goals in last month And even the herioc save that every ranger fan says lundquist had on moulson. Moulson flubbed it. If he got all of that. He would have had a chance. Moulson has been the biggest passenger on jt line. Not boyes.

Tavares also is streaky. Notice he has just been missing the corners on his shots.

Boyes is providing some vet leadership the isles were lacking. And he pointing up more than his fair share of points on the board.

I get it. You guys need a new person to complain about since you can't on ko, bailey, Streit, or cappy anymore.

Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Apr 18 @ 7:12 AM ET
Yes pa is enjoying a last place finish in the west. And a nice start to the golf season.
Hockey is not just all about putting up points only.

I'm not saying he is reason why launche are missing playoffs, but last check isles are doing just fine without him.

As for blaming boyes only. Wake up. Moulson has fanned on a record amount of tap in goals in last month And even the herioc save that every ranger fan says lundquist had on moulson. Moulson flubbed it. If he got all of that. He would have had a chance. Moulson has been the biggest passenger on jt line. Not boyes.

Tavares also is streaky. Notice he has just been missing the corners on his shots.

Boyes is providing some vet leadership the isles were lacking. And he pointing up more than his fair share of points on the board.

I get it. You guys need a new person to complain about since you can't on ko, bailey, Streit, or cappy anymore.

- Spartiarti

Yeah that's what it is. We have no one to complain about so we pick on Boyes. Has nothing to do with him just not being a good player.
dcb1
New York Islanders
Location: Oak Ridge, NJ
Joined: 07.08.2006

Apr 18 @ 8:05 AM ET
What is this thing you have with Boyes? Serious question?
- Cptmjl



Yeah, the problem with Brad Boyes is he's a weakling. He can't fight through traffic- it was kind of what we saw from guys like Bailey and Okposo, before the light bulb went on earlier in the year. He can't do anything but do his little inside out move with the puck, and if that doesn't fool anyone, he gets thrown to the curb, immediately. I can pretty much guarantee that Nino will come to camp with a major chip on his shoulder in September, and take that spot rather easily.
dcb1
New York Islanders
Location: Oak Ridge, NJ
Joined: 07.08.2006

Apr 18 @ 8:17 AM ET
If the price was right he should have been moved.
- kencan98


Well, there's your problem, right there. If you're not getting a talented defensive defenseman back in that deal, it's worthless....even if the guy walks at the end of the year, I'd rather make the playoffs and have the youngsters get that experience.
kear20
New York Islanders
Joined: 07.03.2007

Apr 18 @ 8:17 AM ET
http://www.nyiskinny.com/2013/04/isles-could-clinch-playoff-berth-as.html

Important info. Big few days ahead.

- eichiefs9

Let's do it...no excuses...
kear20
New York Islanders
Joined: 07.03.2007

Apr 18 @ 8:19 AM ET
Well, there's your problem, right there. If you're not getting a talented defensive defenseman back in that deal, it's worthless....even if the guy walks at the end of the year, I'd rather make the playoffs and have the youngsters get that experience. :thumbsup:
- dcb1

Agreed...Snow is pushing the right buttons right now. He has the offseason to figure out who stays and who walks...
dcb1
New York Islanders
Location: Oak Ridge, NJ
Joined: 07.08.2006

Apr 18 @ 8:23 AM ET
Let's do it...no excuses...
- kear20



I'm thinking they beat Winnipeg, as long as they play their game, as opposed to the second half of the Florida game....Toronto in their building is the bigger challenge. In either case, I'm pretty sure they'll be in if they go back to their defensive game plan and win one of the next two, because the rest of the games are against cr*p. There is no way they can miss the dance where it won't be their fault....no one can steal it from them, at this point, because of their last three opponents.
jimmc7722
New York Islanders
Location: TAVARES IS AN ASS!!!!, ON
Joined: 02.06.2008

Apr 18 @ 8:24 AM ET
Agreed...Snow is pushing the right buttons right now. He has the offseason to figure out who stays and who walks...
- kear20



Biggest night of the season tonight.

Everybody is in play.

We win... we're good... We lose... not sure we make it in!!!
Vukota
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.29.2007

Apr 18 @ 8:41 AM ET
Yeah that's what it is. We have no one to complain about so we pick on Boyes. Has nothing to do with him just not being a good player.

- Cptmjl

exactly we're picking on Boyes because we have to pick on somebody it has nothing to do with how horrible he is as a hockey player.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Apr 18 @ 8:45 AM ET
exactly we're picking on Boyes because we have to pick on somebody it has nothing to do with how horrible he is as a hockey player.
- Vukota

(frank)ing ridiculous. These defenders of Brad Boyes crack me up. What the (frank) are they defending?
Jethro09
New York Islanders
Location: NJ
Joined: 08.16.2007

Apr 18 @ 8:51 AM ET
even a 4th rounder is more then you had if he walks.

Nope these guys know... the team signed the better of the 2 D-men & traded the other one... not a big to do.

XxNYIxX

- XxNYIxX

then we have a fundamental disagreement. You feel that its okay to weaken your chances at the team's first playoff appearance in six seasons in return for a fourth round pick whereas I feel that a fourth round pick is not worth stripping your team of its captain and PP QB in the middle of its first playoff run in six seasons.

We also fundamentally disagree on Streit's abilities. Yes, Vis is a better player. But why do we have to let Streit go just because we signed Vis? Why can't the team keep both? Also, you act as if Streit is Jurcina out there. He's not as bad as you and others make him out to be. he's an above-average offensive d-man, perfectly capable of playing third pair minutes defensively and QBing the first PP unit.

Just like you want to say people can't assume the team wouldn't make the playoffs without Streit, you can't assume that Streit isn't going to be brough back. Just because he's a UFA doesn't mean the team can't bring him back.
Jethro09
New York Islanders
Location: NJ
Joined: 08.16.2007

Apr 18 @ 8:55 AM ET
Know what's funny.. how at the deadline.. everyone was talking about how we needed to trade him because JT needs to be Capt & he wasnt resigning.

Now we are in a solid playoff race & we didnt trade him & the tunes have changed...

XxNYIxX

- XxNYIxX

Not me. Don't lump me into that category. I've been saying all along that yes, JT will likely be (and should be) the next captain, but he doesn't need a "C" on his sweater to be the team's leader. He leads fine with just an "A". All a letter is is a piece of fabric sewn on a sweater. The individual player is where leadership comes from, not the letter.
keaner17
New York Islanders
Location: REJECTED REFEREE
Joined: 07.12.2007

Apr 18 @ 8:59 AM ET
Yes pa is enjoying a last place finish in the west. And a nice start to the golf season.
Hockey is not just all about putting up points only.

I'm not saying he is reason why launche are missing playoffs, but last check isles are doing just fine without him.

As for blaming boyes only. Wake up. Moulson has fanned on a record amount of tap in goals in last month And even the herioc save that every ranger fan says lundquist had on moulson. Moulson flubbed it. If he got all of that. He would have had a chance. Moulson has been the biggest passenger on jt line. Not boyes.

Tavares also is streaky. Notice he has just been missing the corners on his shots.

Boyes is providing some vet leadership the isles were lacking. And he pointing up more than his fair share of points on the board.

I get it. You guys need a new person to complain about since you can't on ko, bailey, Streit, or cappy anymore
.

- Spartiarti


Boyes is providing vetern leadership? I have to say, I really wish some of these computers came equiped with breathalizers on the keyboard. To act as though Boyes is getting criticized as a matter of convenience is to mean you've failed to watch any aspect of his game (almost all of which are lacking). The guy is flat out awful. The only place he's of any danger is on the shoot out. I'd go as far as to say that first line could be more effective if you inserted ANY player not named Reasoner. While Moulson is indeed struggling right now, he's produced for three consecutive years prior. He get's a pass for that. Boyes on the other hand has been a turnover machine since the day he arrived.
dcb1
New York Islanders
Location: Oak Ridge, NJ
Joined: 07.08.2006

Apr 18 @ 9:04 AM ET
Boyes on the other hand has been a turnover machine since the day he arrived.
- keaner17


Yeah, when you only have one thing you can do with the puck, that tends to happen...
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