Why would any team do that? Its one thing if you're in last place and you have no shot at the playoffs. Teams lose guys to UFA every year its part of the business. Trading Streit for a draft pick while you're in a playoff spot would have been foolish.
- Vukota

I agree, no team would of done a trade like that, unless there was a severe overpayment taking place.

Streit will be back if the Isles want him... I read that they were only 500k per year off on the contract. If thats the case, that will get done.

I agree, no team would of done a trade like that, unless there was a severe overpayment taking place.

Streit will be back if the Isles want him... I read that they were only 500k per year off on the contract. If thats the case, that will get done.
- Bags502

Exactly unless you're overwhelmed you can't trade him. Getting to the playoffs for this team would be so much more valuable to this team then a 2nd rd pick could ever be.

Why would any team do that? Its one thing if you're in last place and you have no shot at the playoffs. Teams lose guys to UFA every year its part of the business. Trading Streit for a draft pick while you're in a playoff spot would have been foolish.
- Vukota

Because, make the playoff or not.. we are still rebuilding this machine... We are not in a position to let any assets walk for nothing... Streit isnt even all that good.. he has been pretty bad the last couple seasons... if he's such a huge piece of this playoff team puzzle & he walks at the end of the year.. where are we then?? If the loss of Streit makes us that less of a playoff team, then we need to keep building, we need to keep adding pieces.

XxNYIxX

Why would any team do that? Its one thing if you're in last place and you have no shot at the playoffs. Teams lose guys to UFA every year its part of the business. Trading Streit for a draft pick while you're in a playoff spot would have been foolish.
- Vukota

Its insane to think that it would have been a good idea for a team that hasn't made the playoffs in five or six years and is within striking distance of ending that streak to trade its captain, its top PP QB, away at the deadline for a second round draft pick. That move would have sent a message to the players that management doesn't believe in them and would have told the fans management doesn't think this team is good enough to get into the playoffs.

This team hasn't had a shot at a playoff spot in years. I'd rather have them take that shot than weaken their chances all for the sake of making sure you get a God*amn second round or later draft pick for a pending UFA.

Exactly unless you're overwhelmed you can't trade him. Getting to the playoffs for this team would be so much more valuable to this team then a 2nd rd pick could ever be.
- Vukota

Well said. Some people just don't understand that.

Because, make the playoff or not.. we are still rebuilding this machine... We are not in a position to let any assets walk for nothing... Streit isnt even all that good.. he has been pretty bad the last couple seasons... if he's such a huge piece of this playoff team puzzle & he walks at the end of the year.. where are we then?? If the loss of Streit makes us that less of a playoff team, then we need to keep building, we need to keep adding pieces.

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- XxNYIxX

At some point you have to take the next step and that's exactly what they are doing. I'm not saying he is the best D-man but he helps this team right now and like I said this team getting to the playoffs this year and letting streit walk in the offseason is much more valuable to the growth of this team then trading him for a 2nd rd pick and not making the playoffs. Playoff teams lose guys to free agency every year. That's just the way it is

here's my issue with Boyes. Last night on the PP, who gave the puck away in the offensive zone twice? Boyes.

when JT's line comes out and spends their entire shift in their own end, who usually had a chance to clear and couldn't? Boyes.

part of the reason JT hasn't been as effective lately is because their line spends a lot of time hemmed in their own zone, and if you'll pay attention to that on thursday, you'll see what I see out of Boyes. Lack of compete. He throws the puck away blindly and does it in all zones. He's not a good fit with JT and Moulson and shouldn't be resigned.

I'm not saying a rookie should take his place, but we have plenty of kids coming up and next season (not this season) I'd be interested to see either Bailey or one of the kids get a chance to play with JT in camp. There's no reason they can't find a better fit from within for that line. If not, there's a lot of pieces we could move for a winger to play in that spot who could be a lot more effective than Boyes.

he's a placeholder, and this summer he needs to be gone.
- Isles_since_6

I agree with most of what you said.

But you do all of that while Boyes is on the team. You don't let him go and see if it works because if it doesn't you're screwed. At least if he's there we have a plan B.

Again, signing him for another year, bringing a prospect or two up and letting them see the first line, and trading Boyes at the deadline if things work with the prospect is the smart move.

Letting Boyes go and hoping that the prospect works without any other plan is a stupid move.

Iginla isn't signing here. No other big name player is either. So my opinion is they stick with what they got while mixing in the prospects and trade Boyes if the prospects work.

Its insane to think that it would have been a good idea for a team that hasn't made the playoffs in five or six years and is within striking distance of ending that streak to trade its captain, its top PP QB, away at the deadline for a second round draft pick. That move would have sent a message to the players that management doesn't believe in them and would have told the fans management doesn't think this team is good enough to get into the playoffs.

This team hasn't had a shot at a playoff spot in years. I'd rather have them take that shot than weaken their chances all for the sake of making sure you get a God*amn second round or later draft pick for a pending UFA.
- Jethro09

I agree. It's a no brainer. PAP last year is a different story

Because, make the playoff or not.. we are still rebuilding this machine... We are not in a position to let any assets walk for nothing... Streit isnt even all that good.. he has been pretty bad the last couple seasons... if he's such a huge piece of this playoff team puzzle & he walks at the end of the year.. where are we then?? If the loss of Streit makes us that less of a playoff team, then we need to keep building, we need to keep adding pieces.

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- XxNYIxX

If thats ur opinion of him, then why does it matter if he walks at the end of the year... You make it like, he cant be replaced. He is better then a 2nd rd pick and trading him for anything that isnt an overpayment at the deadline, would of killed this team emotionally. If would of signified that management had no confidence in the team and that they gave up.

Like I said before, Ive read that they are only 500k per year off on a contract. If the Isles want him back, there captain will be back.

Because, make the playoff or not.. we are still rebuilding this machine... We are not in a position to let any assets walk for nothing... Streit isnt even all that good.. he has been pretty bad the last couple seasons... if he's such a huge piece of this playoff team puzzle & he walks at the end of the year.. where are we then?? If the loss of Streit makes us that less of a playoff team, then we need to keep building, we need to keep adding pieces.

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- XxNYIxX

Then why are you so mad they didn't trade him? If he was so sh**ty, nobody would have been offering a good return for Streit. So why trade him then?

Where are the Isles if he walks at the end of the year? The same place they'd be if he was moved at the deadline, only the team would also have a group of players that felt that management didn't think too highly of their development or their chances of making the playoffs and that's why they traded their captain away for a late second round draft pick (or worse).

I agree with most of what you said.

But you do all of that while Boyes is on the team. You don't let him go and see if it works because if it doesn't you're screwed. At least if he's there we have a plan B.

Again, signing him for another year, bringing a prospect or two up and letting them see the first line, and trading Boyes at the deadline if things work with the prospect is the smart move.

Letting Boyes go and hoping that the prospect works without any other plan is a stupid move.

Iginla isn't signing here. No other big name player is either. So my opinion is they stick with what they got while mixing in the prospects and trade Boyes if the prospects work.
- kencan98

Here is my take. Boyes had 5 goals last year before playing with JT. JT has turned him into a decent point producer if nothing else. Every year there are a bunch of UFA's who might not be all stars but are much better then Boyes. So why not bring in somebody who is not an all star but who is clearly an upgrade over Boyes? If JT can get a guy like Boyes some points just think what he can do with somebody with a higher skill set? Why is that so hard to understand?

If thats ur opinion of him, then why does it matter if he walks at the end of the year... You make it like, he cant be replaced. He is better then a 2nd rd pick and trading him for anything that isnt an overpayment at the deadline, would of killed this team emotionally. If would of signified that management had no confidence in the team and that they gave up.

Like I said before, Ive read that they are only 500k per year off on a contract. If the Isles want him back, there captain will be back.
- Bags502

Then why are you so mad they didn't trade him? If he was so sh**ty, nobody would have been offering a good return for Streit. So why trade him then?

Where are the Isles if he walks at the end of the year? The same place they'd be if he was moved at the deadline, only the team would also have a group of players that felt that management didn't think too highly of their development or their chances of making the playoffs and that's why they traded their captain away for a late second round draft pick (or worse).
- Jethro09

Here is my take. Boyes had 5 goals last year before playing with JT. JT has turned him into a decent point producer if nothing else. Every year there are a bunch of UFA's who might not be all stars but are much better then Boyes. So why not bring in somebody who is not an all star but who is clearly an upgrade over Boyes? If JT can get a guy like Boyes some points just think what he can do with somebody with a higher skill set? Why is that so hard to understand?
- Vukota

I don't think there is any question that the Isles are going to try to do that this summer. And with Bklyn and a possible playoff team to market, along with all the cap space, there is no reason why they shouldn't be able to land one of those better UFA's.

Its insane to think that it would have been a good idea for a team that hasn't made the playoffs in five or six years and is within striking distance of ending that streak to trade its captain, its top PP QB, away at the deadline for a second round draft pick. That move would have sent a message to the players that management doesn't believe in them and would have told the fans management doesn't think this team is good enough to get into the playoffs.

This team hasn't had a shot at a playoff spot in years. I'd rather have them take that shot than weaken their chances all for the sake of making sure you get a God*amn second round or later draft pick for a pending UFA.
- Jethro09

it would have happened right after the signing of Vis, a better player then mark is & one that signed on the line.

XxNYIxX

At some point you have to take the next step and that's exactly what they are doing. I'm not saying he is the best D-man but he helps this team right now and like I said this team getting to the playoffs this year and letting streit walk in the offseason is much more valuable to the growth of this team then trading him for a 2nd rd pick and not making the playoffs. Playoff teams lose guys to free agency every year. That's just the way it is
- Vukota

Who's to say they wouldnt make the playoffs without him???

Also.. yes playoff teams that have an influx of talent coming through the pipeline can replace leaving players with developed prospects the next season... we arent at that point yet.

XxNYIxX

If thats ur opinion of him, then why does it matter if he walks at the end of the year... You make it like, he cant be replaced. He is better then a 2nd rd pick and trading him for anything that isnt an overpayment at the deadline, would of killed this team emotionally. If would of signified that management had no confidence in the team and that they gave up.

Like I said before, Ive read that they are only 500k per year off on a contract. If the Isles want him back, there captain will be back.
- Bags502

because he's an asset that would have brought back another asset... if he walks... you gain nothing... you are late to the party if you haven't grasped that yet

XxNYIxX

Then why are you so mad they didn't trade him? If he was so sh**ty, nobody would have been offering a good return for Streit. So why trade him then?

Where are the Isles if he walks at the end of the year? The same place they'd be if he was moved at the deadline, only the team would also have a group of players that felt that management didn't think too highly of their development or their chances of making the playoffs and that's why they traded their captain away for a late second round draft pick (or worse).
- Jethro09

even a 4th rounder is more then you had if he walks.

Nope these guys know... the team signed the better of the 2 D-men & traded the other one... not a big to do.

XxNYIxX

Who's to say they wouldnt make the playoffs without him???

Also.. yes playoff teams that have an influx of talent coming through the pipeline can replace leaving players with developed prospects the next season... we arent at that point yet.

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- XxNYIxX

He has his flaws on the D side no doubt but he is also 4th on the team in points and is the QB of the PP. Yeah they might have made the playoffs without him, maybe ? but they are a better team right now with him in the lineup whether you want to admit it or not. No teams in the playoffs trade their core guys for mid level picks at the deadline. Nobody does!!

even a 4th rounder is more then you had if he walks.

Nope these guys know... the team signed the better of the 2 D-men & traded the other one... not a big to do.

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- XxNYIxX

Nobody is comparing Streit & Viz that's not the point. Streit is better then anybody else the Islanders have on their current roster that would have had to replace him and that's why you don't trade him for a 2nd rd pick when you're in a playoff spot.

because he's an asset that would have brought back another asset... if he walks... you gain nothing... you are late to the party if you haven't grasped that yet

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- XxNYIxX

Getting to the playoffs for the first time in 6 years with a bunch of kids who have never tasted playoff hockey or have played intense regular season games down the stretch is gaining nothing???

even a 4th rounder is more then you had if he walks.

Nope these guys know... the team signed the better of the 2 D-men & traded the other one... not a big to do.

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- XxNYIxX

You're acting like they were in last place at the deadline

because he's an asset that would have brought back another asset... if he walks... you gain nothing... you are late to the party if you haven't grasped that yet

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- XxNYIxX

We all grasp what you're saying, we're not stupid. But its obvious that you put less value on Streits potential contributions to a playoff run and whatever good may come of that run than you do on a late second round pick. Others of us beg to differ.

Getting to the playoffs for the first time in 6 years with a bunch of kids who have never tasted playoff hockey or have played intense regular season games down the stretch is gaining nothing???
- Vukota

you are assuming they dont make it without him

XxNYIxX

We all grasp what you're saying, we're not stupid. But its obvious that you put less value on Streits potential contributions to a playoff run and whatever good may come of that run than you do on a late second round pick. Others of us beg to differ.
- PeteM

And thats fine, this world would really suck if everyone thought like everyone else

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