A 4th line that can score a few goals now and then can be huge for a teams success. Scott can't do that.
- sbroads24

Right?
Kaleta, Paille, Nichol (great at faceoffs)....
These are useful 4th liners

Guys I'd rather have in the line-up over Scott...
Gerbe
Kaleta
Tropp
McCormick
Porter
Even Hecht provides more IMO

All those guys are 4th liners IMO
I wouldn't bring back Hecht, and maybe Tropp is a 3rd line guy...
But that still leave four guys I'd much rather have on the roster than Scott

Not that he's a problem
I just don't see he contributes much

"I want someone who's TOUGH....
AND can actually play

That shouldn't be too much to ask "

the money players need to lead by example

this core never has
- homiedclown

I totally agree
But I don't see what that has to do w Scott?

if the multimillionaires mail it in, making 4-7.142857 mil per year can't be motivated to play

how can you expect a 4th liner to play?
- homiedclown

Vanek at half speed> Scott playing like its game 7. I get what point your trying to make but this is part of the problem, 4th liners or grinders always play hard, that's how they got to the show , it's easy to point out the multi millionaires faults on bad teams, but one of the main reasons this team sucked the first half of the year was because our bottom two lines did absolutely nothing

I totally agree
But I don't see what that has to do w Scott?
- jdfitz77

I quoted you, which led to my rants on the suck sisters

sorry, I am a little on edge
not enough fiber in my diet

Right?
Kaleta, Paille, Nichol (great at faceoffs)....
These are useful 4th liners

Guys I'd rather have in the line-up over Scott...
Gerbe
Kaleta
Tropp
McCormick
Porter
Even Hecht provides more IMO

All those guys are 4th liners IMO
I wouldn't bring back Hecht, and maybe Tropp is a 3rd line guy...
But that still leave four guys I'd much rather have on the roster than Scott

Not that he's a problem
I just don't see he contributes much
- jdfitz77

agreed

so long as we have a descent top 9 and 6 d men that leave it all on the ice

those are the type of players you need on the 4th line in the playoffs

not to intrude on this great debate about John Scott (seriously guys?) but I found this interesting and never really thought about it till now:

http://canucksarmy.com/20...d-probably-win-the-norris

Anyone here think he'll actually get any recognition/votes? I feel like if we were a better team he would definitely be in the running. That first fenwick chart is absolutely insane it's as if we are two different teams when ehrhoff is or isn't on the ice

I quoted you, which led to my rants on the suck sisters

sorry, I am a little on edge
not enough fiber in my diet
- homiedclown

Then have some alligator soup.

Beside the point u made about the ONE game he beat up Thornton,
What exactly has he provided?

And why limit it to 19 guys that are good enough to play more than 5min?
I'd rather have 20 guys that can play
It just makes sense to me

What ROLE doe he really have when he's hardly in the ice,
And has only fought like 6 times this year?
- jdfitz77

Its not about fighting all the time, its about policing the ice and the other team knowing he is around if they are thinking about getting extra physical.

You dont have to like him or want him around, I understand your side of the argument, but I see it both ways and I'm on the side of he does serve a purpose.

agreed

so long as we have a descent top 9 and 6 d men that leave it all on the ice

those are the type of players you need on the 4th line in the playoffs
- homiedclown

Sounds good to me
I just don't see Scott as providing much of anything
I wouldn't HATE if he's back,
But I would prefer to have a guy who can do more than fight a few times a season

It really sucks we've basically killed our chance at a top3 pick
Maybe we somehow get lucky enough to win the lottery

When Miller & Vanek are traded,
I'd like to see us get guys back that are young NHLers as opposed to just picks and prospects
Simmonds is the guy I currently covet if Philly wants Miller?
I'd even take back that awful Bryzgalov contract to make it happen, although they'd obviously have to add in A LOT more for us to do that deal
But if not Simmonds,
Someone along those lines

not to intrude on this great debate about John Scott (seriously guys?) but I found this interesting and never really thought about it till now:

http://canucksarmy.com/20...d-probably-win-the-norris

Anyone here think he'll actually get any recognition/votes? I feel like if we were a better team he would definitely be in the running. That first fenwick chart is absolutely insane it's as if we are two different teams when ehrhoff is or isn't on the ice
- Sabresfan-365

Ehrhoff has the easiest Quality of Competition out of all our defensemen. If he was putting up those numbers against the toughest competition, he'd be getting some interest.

Its not about fighting all the time, its about policing the ice and the other team knowing he is around if they are thinking about getting extra physical.

You dont have to like him or want him around, I understand your side of the argument, but I see it both ways and I'm on the side of he does serve a purpose.
- Homer

But teams kept taking runs at guys like Ennis & Gerbe...
I don't see Scott preventing that...
If he did... Or if he at least beat the crap outta those guys the next time they're on the ice then I'd love to have him back!
I just don't see him do that
I feel like teams have continued that kind of behavior all season against us

not to intrude on this great debate about John Scott (seriously guys?) but I found this interesting and never really thought about it till now:

http://canucksarmy.com/20...d-probably-win-the-norris

Anyone here think he'll actually get any recognition/votes? I feel like if we were a better team he would definitely be in the running. That first fenwick chart is absolutely insane it's as if we are two different teams when ehrhoff is or isn't on the ice
- Sabresfan-365

He QBs the worst PP unit in the NHL. He logs good minutes and is good all around but a Norris?

thought this was some interesting stuff...

15. Darcy Regier never came close to dealing Ryan Miller or Thomas Vanek at the deadline. "The value wasn't there," he said last week. When you see what it took for him to trade Jason Pominville, you understand what value he wanted. More interesting: the Sabres GM hinted, but would not confirm, that he's talked to both players about extending their contracts in Buffalo. Miller and Vanek are unrestricted free agents after next season.

16. Regier told Hockey Night in Canada Radio the departures of Daniel Briere and Chris Drury taught him that you can't let those kinds of players leave for nothing. When he and I talked by phone, he talked about "the void" that still exists under the new CBA. We know now (thanks to Ryan Getzlaf and Corey Perry) what the high-end 27-year-olds are going to get. Vanek will be 30 and Miller 33 when they hit the market. Can the Sabres find a number they are comfortable with for those players? If not, they will be traded. Regier will sit down with both men after the season. Those talks will determine where things go.

17. Speaking of Briere, if Philadelphia does buy him out (as has been widely reported), would the Sabres bring him back? It's a good family fit for him, they need experience and it would give the fans something to be happy about. He helped Sean Couturier's NHL adjustment and Buffalo will be full of young guys seeking that aid.

18. That quote by Craig MacTavish about the problem not being coaching in Edmonton? Same goes for Buffalo. Same problems under Ron Rolston that existed with Lindy Ruff. The Sabres need more forwards committed to defending and winning battles. Their defence don't get a lot of help.

19. That brings us to Tyler Myers. I've written it before, but his biggest problem is he places way too much pressure on himself and can't let go of mistakes. He and the Sabres feel they are finally making progress on that issue. You can't question his compete level when he plays 26 minutes on a night where he broke his leg. He needs to fill out his frame, yes, but the mental side is the most important.

20. Patrick Kaleta, on the dressing-room corner he shares with Steve Ott: "The most hated corner in the league."

21. Yes, I did ask Ott about the lick to Jeff Halpern. He laughed. "I was just [bleeping] with him."

http://www.cbc.ca/sports/...d-to-shake-up-oilers.html

He QBs the worst PP unit in the NHL. He logs good minutes and is good all around but a Norris?
- sbroads24

Interesting article, and i agree to an extent...
Not that he should win the Norris, but that he is really valuable to us
We need to get him a legit partner
SETH JONES PLEASE

Not only would a legit #1 pair obviously help
But Myers could play on the second or even 3rd pair for the time being... Take some pressure off him & let him find his game again
If our #3-7 defensemen were Sekera, Weber, Myers, McNabb & Pysyk... I'm pretty ok with that as long as we have a legit #1 pair

He QBs the worst PP unit in the NHL. He logs good minutes and is good all around but a Norris?
- sbroads24

Ehrhoff is not a PP QB. He has a heavy point shot that he rarely gets on net. He was successful in Vancouver, because he was always set up for an easy shot. More attention went to the Sedin's who were the PP QB's.

Ehrhoff is not a PP QB. He has a heavy point shot that he rarely gets on net. He was successful in Vancouver, because he was always set up for an easy shot. More attention went to the Sedin's who were the PP QB's.
- theblueandgold

He's captain hesitation. Also is horrible at moving around and getting open to get his shot on.

Then have some alligator soup.
- sippyd

Beating PHI and TB is going to turn out to be a mistake.

Beating PHI and TB is going to turn out to be a mistake.
- theblueandgold

Very true

He's captain hesitation. Also is horrible at moving around and getting open to get his shot on.
- sbroads24

To busy watching for the missed pass that lets the other team break out.

Well this is exciting

"I want someone who's TOUGH....
AND can actually play

That shouldn't be too much to ask "

the money players need to lead by example

this core never has
- homiedclown

David Clarkson and Ryan Clowe, July 1.

(Hides, prays)