wtf?

babcock is a very good coach. you still need to know how to use the talent you've been given.
- Dozzer

I agree with you 100%... This just another example of the 'if MacLean owes his success to his AHL coach, then so does x" argument.

Counterpoint: Ron Wilson.
- Leeman4Gilmour

Coaches have to much control on possible outcomes

Yup....minus Connolly, Komisarek, Lombardi...
- p_zub

addition by subtraction.

are Connolly and Komisarek showing their great in room manner and leadership skills with the Marlies? I haven't heard anything.

Mike Augello: Reimer Robs Victory Over Devils; Leafs Vs Capitals
- mikeinbuffalo

How does glen Healy think Reimer did last night?

Totally agree. Think Eakins did, and is doing, a great job with our youth/prospects. I do think that MacLean is a good coach, but think RC has be talked about in the same conversations when discussing a coach who has taken a team to unexpected success.
- vermie22

That's fair.

Although, I still think the Jack Adams should ideally be about more than surprising W-L records.

addition by subtraction.

are Connolly and Komisarek showing their great in room manner and leadership skills with the Marlies? I haven't heard anything.
- BorjeFan4Ever

Injured more often than not.

wtf?

babcock is a very good coach. you still need to know how to use the talent you've been given.
- Dozzer

Exactly. There are two elements to coaching -1) the technical knowledge, and use of talent, and 2) instituting a culture, a team philosophy/mentality. Randy Carlyle and Paul MacLean have both been very successful in both elements. Both inherited teams with almost toxic environments, and both have instituted an impressive culture change. They also have both done well using the talent at their disposal as effectively as possible in terms of systems.

How does glen Healy think Reimer did last night?
- burn

What a jerk.

How does glen Healy think Reimer did last night?
- burn

I'd put pretty good money on (if we make he playoffs) Healy acting like one of the biggest Reimer fans there is. It will be disgusting how much ass kissing this guy is going to do.

I agree with you 100%... This just another example of the 'if MacLean owes his success to his AHL coach, then so does x" argument.
- Mr_Clean

oh lol

missed that one.. my bad

Exactly. There are two elements to coaching -1) the technical knowledge, and use of talent, and 2) instituting a culture, a team philosophy/mentality. Randy Carlyle and Paul MacLean have both been very successful in both elements. Both inherited teams with almost toxic environments, and both have instituted an impressive culture change. They also have both done well using the talent at their disposal as effectively as possible in terms of systems.
- fifty__missions

Exactly. There are two elements to coaching -1) the technical knowledge, and use of talent, and 2) instituting a culture, a team philosophy/mentality. Randy Carlyle and Paul MacLean have both been very successful in both elements. Both inherited teams with almost toxic environments, and both have instituted an impressive culture change. They also have both done well using the talent at their disposal as effectively as possible in terms of systems.
- fifty__missions

same can be said for therrien in montreal as well

How does glen Healy think Reimer did last night?
- burn

you'd have to set that question up properly by first asking what he thinks of Carey Price's season so far? what he thinks Price's issue is right now? ask him if perhaps Gionta put his ass in Carey's face in practice or similar?

but a better idea would be to just ignore Healy - and like Ron Wilson, just not give him an opportunity in front of any camera.

if Don Cherry said 1/10 as many stupid, inaccurate or blatantly dumb things are Healy - he would have been off the air years ago.

I'd put pretty good money on (if we make he playoffs) Healy acting like one of the biggest Reimer fans there is. It will be disgusting how much ass kissing this guy is going to do.
- Leafland

Agreed. Still thinks Reimer sold the injury.

This is all true, but you have to admit that the one major downside is that we can't sign him to a contract extension until the final year of his deal.

I don't want to trade assets for him, only to have him just walk away for nothing in 9 years.

After his current deal, do you think he'd do maybe 3 years/3 million per year? That's pretty cheap for a Vezina type goalie who will be playing high level hockey well into his 50's.
- Leeman4Gilmour

I'm guessing that after his current contract, he'll probably want to move on to some U.N. position, where he will solve the Middle East crisis and find a cure for cancer.

Yeah, Carlyle doesn't deserve any credit, it's all the Marlies coach and the GM
- Mr_Clean

Considering the Sens have all AHLers up, couldn't the same be said about Luke Richardson?

Exactly. There are two elements to coaching -1) the technical knowledge, and use of talent, and 2) instituting a culture, a team philosophy/mentality. Randy Carlyle and Paul MacLean have both been very successful in both elements. Both inherited teams with almost toxic environments, and both have instituted an impressive culture change. They also have both done well using the talent at their disposal as effectively as possible in terms of systems.
- fifty__missions

one thing is for sure, MacLean hasn't been hurt by the goaltending he's had.

same can be said for therrien in montreal as well
- Dozzer

Yeah, they're having a good year, no doubt. But as I said the other night, Therrien has a shelf life. Sooner than later, he's going to piss off a core of players in that room. Leopards don't change their spots.- that's his history. To be fair, Carlyle seemed to lose some of his core in Anaheim, too. We shall see.

Injured more often than not.
- burn

and that's a good thing.

Agreed. Still thinks Reimer sold the injury.
- burn

healy has been hit in the head before too ya know

and it shows

one thing is for sure, MacLean hasn't been hurt by the goaltending he's had.
- BorjeFan4Ever

Neither has Carlyle, from all the bragging I've been hearing about Reimer

Considering the Sens have all AHLers up, couldn't the same be said about Luke Richardson?
- Captain_Quiffe

That's exactly the argument I'm disagreeing with

Considering the Sens have all AHLers up, couldn't the same be said about Luke Richardson?
- Captain_Quiffe

He was being sarcastic. That's all they know in Ottawa, sarcasm and Fenwick formulas.

Yeah, they're having a good year, no doubt. But as I said the other night, Therrien has a shelf life. Sooner than later, he's going to piss off a core of players in that room. Leopards don't change their spots. To be fair, Carlyle seemed to lose some of his core in Anaheim, too. We shall see.
- fifty__missions

coaches who work teams hard always have shelf lives.

but if the vets stay bought into what the coach is saying, and the GM is savvy enough to remove any cancerous attitudes from the room, then a coach like that can have a nice long career.

He was being sarcastic. That's all they know in Ottawa, sarcasm and Fenwick formulas.
- Leafland

I don't like the Fenwick - but I do like sarcasm!

And I'm not from Ottawa.

And neither is Yost.

1/4 ain't bad