Al
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Exactly. Couldn't we do the same with Kane and Sharp or Hossa shooting? And JJ if you see this, why don't the Hawks ever try 19 at the point on the PP? I know he played there (and succeeded) at UND and on the Canada WJC team. He's responsible enough not to get burned defensively. Has a wicked wrister he can get off fast. For heaven's sake Bolland has been on the point since he's been back - rollpards19
Because Toews scores more goals withing 5 ft of the net than any other Hawks.
Today's article....
Blackhawks continue to roll with a 5-2 win over Dallas - Power Play Woes & What's up with Dave Bolland??-FOX Chicago: http://bit.ly/ZuL8qx |
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teh_HAWKZ
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Location: Chicago, IL Joined: 07.03.2012
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Because Toews scores more goals withing 5 ft of the net than any other Hawks.
Today's article....
Blackhawks continue to roll with a 5-2 win over Dallas - Power Play Woes & What's up with Dave Bolland??-FOX Chicago:http://bit.ly/ZuL8qx - Al
Toews does it any other time besides on the PP. I say the strategy should be to keep feeding the point and having Toews or anyone else pick up the trash. Create some havoc, it doesn't need to be the perfect shot. Get Leddy or Hossa to release the shot.
Keith can be in the locker room ready to hand out orange slices to the guys between periods. He can't hurt anyone in that type of role. |
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SnapitUpstairs
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Location: CHICAGO, IL Joined: 02.03.2012
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Agreed...too much standing around and point men trying to navigate to t he middle of the ice. The snap shot or wrister has been ignored by the point men. perfect shots to be fired hard and low and prime for dirty, rebound goals come playoff time.
The entry is also horrible. 1 guy moving 110%, 2 standing still against the boards, 2 trailing the play...Just a bad overall scheme. - SteveRain
>Thought you would enjoy this PP chalk talk from the Hawks Barry Smith
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=drP4JgF6YqM |
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prd797
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Location: Scotland Joined: 06.17.2012
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>Thought you would enjoy this PP chalk talk from the Hawks Barry Smith
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=drP4JgF6YqM - SnapitUpstairs
Really makes you wonder what the flying PHUCK Q and his yes men are even thinking with that static set-up... |
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rollpards19
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Location: Where ever doesn't get me hit, IL Joined: 05.03.2012
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Really makes you wonder what the flying PHUCK Q and his yes men are even thinking with that static set-up... - prd797
Been running the same overload for 4 years. Umbrella or 1-3-1 |
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HawkintheD
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Location: Sick Bay, MI Joined: 02.22.2012
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wiz1901
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JJ...didn't the Hawks orgainization have Dale Tallon wear #9 when he was acquired from Vancouver?
Talk about unfair expectations... - ArlingtonRob
yes they did....and I happened to be at the only game he ever wore it...an exibition between the Dallas farm team and the Hawks preseason team at Notre dame University.
D'arcy Rota looked a whole lot better at forward than Dale did....
Tallon was a hybrid...he could play defense well enough to justify his offensive side, and was ordinary at centre and wing when they tried him there.
Somtimes that jump to pro is just is much bigger puddle than guys can leap....
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Kentxo
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Anyone think a 10-65-88 line could be better? That moves 36 to the third line. I think 65 could provide some of the dirty work and physicality that that line needs to "create space" for 10 and 88. |
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Al
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Location: , IL Joined: 08.11.2006
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yes they did....and I happened to be at the only game he ever wore it...an exibition between the Dallas farm team and the Hawks preseason team at Notre dame University.
D'arcy Rota looked a whole lot better at forward than Dale did....
Tallon was a hybrid...he could play defense well enough to justify his offensive side, and was ordinary at centre and wing when they tried him there.
Somtimes that jump to pro is just is much bigger puddle than guys can leap.... - wiz1901
Yep....Tallon turned back #9 almost immediately.
Today's article....
Blackhawks continue to roll with a 5-2 win over Dallas - Power Play Woes & What's up with Dave Bolland??-FOX Chicago: http://bit.ly/ZuL8qx |
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HawkintheD
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Location: Sick Bay, MI Joined: 02.22.2012
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So many capologists on this site worrying about how much a player is making as if it was really hurting Rocky Wirtz's pocketbook and by extension themselves. Last year it was Hammer's obscene wages that were so alarming.
If the Hawks win the Cup or go far in the playoffs and Bolland plays effectively are you really going to worry about his regular season statistics? I know I won't.
I'm not defending his indifferent play this year. He's just not an ideal center for Kane or Sharp or Hossa. But when the playoffs arrive, history suggests he"ll raise his game. See 2004/05 Memorial Cup and 2009/2010 Stanley Cup. Until I'm convinced he just can't do it anymore, I'll back a guy that has been to the winner's circle. - RickJ
I admire the loyalty but I think your first points a bit off; where I would be concerned anyway. Rocky's got accountants to worry about his pocket book but as a fan I'm looking at it as pieces to a puzzle and how many you can fit in the space provided.
Take that into consideration along with the fact that a) Shaw has been doing a pretty nice job at 3C, plays a similar game and comes much cheaper b) Kruger also plays a similar game and comes much cheaper albeit with perhaps a little less offense c) they are trying to sign more than likely all of Leddy, Kruger, Bickell and Stalberg (provided they can reasonably) d) Bolland's already making 3.5 mil and will be looking for a raise at the end of next year...don't think so.
If he were a 2C sure, but he's not and based on above I can easily see them using him to recoup some picks this summer...I don't have a problem with that. |
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Al
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Location: , IL Joined: 08.11.2006
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Been running the same overload for 4 years. Umbrella or 1-3-1 - rollpards19
If there aren't point man hitting the net there is no fear and every team packs in down low.
Q. is throwing everything at the wall now and it isdesperate and just as bad as last year.
Today's article....
Blackhawks continue to roll with a 5-2 win over Dallas - Power Play Woes & What's up with Dave Bolland??-FOX Chicago: http://bit.ly/ZuL8qx
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SnapitUpstairs
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Location: CHICAGO, IL Joined: 02.03.2012
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Been running the same overload for 4 years. Umbrella or 1-3-1 - rollpards19
>To me, 1-3-1 is the best formation
>PP unit #1: Hossa as the lone "point man" in the middle top
>Kane on lower right circle/boards
>Sharp (if healthy) on lower left circle/boards
>Toews in the high slot
>Bickel in front of the net (can also slide behind the net as passing outlet)
>PP unit #2:
>Leddy would be my #2 unit lone "point man"
>Stalberg on lower right circle/boards
>Seabrook on lower left circle/boards
>Saad in the high slot
>Shaw in front of the net (can also slide behind the net as passing outlet)
>Sharp & Seabrook can always slide "back" toward a traditional point option as needed under pressure on their respective PP units |
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HawkintheD
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I admire the loyalty but I think your first points a bit off; where I would be concerned anyway. Rocky's got accountants to worry about his pocket book but as a fan I'm looking at it as pieces to a puzzle and how many you can fit in the space provided.
Take that into consideration along with the fact that a) Shaw has been doing a pretty nice job at 3C, plays a similar game and comes much cheaper b) Kruger also plays a similar game and comes much cheaper albeit with perhaps a little less offense c) they are trying to sign more than likely all of Leddy, Kruger, Bickell and Stalberg (provided they can reasonably) d) Bolland's already making 3.5 mil and will be looking for a raise at the end of next year...don't think so.
If he were a 2C sure, but he's not and based on above I can easily see them using him to recoup some picks this summer...I don't have a problem with that. - HawkintheD
Wow, sorry. I really didn't mean to bold anything in that statement.
Oops! |
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DarthKane
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Location: 5.13.4.9 Joined: 02.23.2012
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Anyone think a 10-65-88 line could be better? That moves 36 to the third line. I think 65 could provide some of the dirty work and physicality that that line needs to "create space" for 10 and 88. - Kentxo
I've been saying for a while that Shaw and Kane seemed to have some chemistry. I think it's worth trying Shaw on the 2nd line and Bolland back to the 3rd. My only worry would be disrupting the chemistry that 29/65/25 seem to have going again. We'll need that line humming in the playoffs. |
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tomcat24
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Location: Gomer's Pyle, IL Joined: 06.04.2012
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Don't know if it was mentioned but there is a rumor the Wild might host the Hawks in the 2015 Winter Classic. Also, that free agent from Yale, Laganiere, signed with the Ducks I didn't expect we would since we didn't have an open spot |
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tredbrta
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Yup, lets dump all over Bolland because he's become inconsequential on a team setting records in a shortened regular season.
And then in the playoffs when the Sedins are scoring at will or a guy like Logan Couture gets hot we"ll all be hollering for a shutdown center to stop those guys.
There's a very long list of players in NHL history who earned their money in the tough playoff going. My opinion is Bolly doesn't give a crap about the regular season or playing dippsy doodle with #88. (And he's probably somewhat out of shape too).
But #36 will be in the lineup on opening night of the playoffs, Q will make sure of that. And I'd be more worried about #88 disappearing when the going gets mean and nasty. - RickJ
Speaking only for myself - I think - when healthy and being "the rat" Bolland may be the best shut down center in the game and a playoff beast. When I discuss his being gone it is really because of his cost, the cap, and the team's needs. They have future centers coming, ones on the roster cheaper and suited to a similar role. If Bolland really lit it up offensively with Kane this year he would be the man. He hasn't.
There has to some reshuffling in the OS. I think he and Sharp are the most likely to go.
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tredbrta
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McKenzie just reported that the Western conference coaches voted Toews the overwhelming MVP. Shows you how much the league thinks of him - rollpards19
I really never understood this Hart talk for Kane. He isn't even MVP of his own team.
You can make the argument for Crosby vs Toews. But if it is about 1 single players importance to his team - Toews wins it. Especially after the Pens deadline moves. Crosby is gone - they still win.
Without Toews - the Hawks would have real problems. Maybe that is Backes was so interested in hurting him Sunday. |
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tomcat24
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I've been saying for a while that Shaw and Kane seemed to have some chemistry. I think it's worth trying Shaw on the 2nd line and Bolland back to the 3rd. My only worry would be disrupting the chemistry that 29/65/25 seem to have going again. We'll need that line humming in the playoffs. - DarthKane
I think Bickell and Stalberg looked good with Zus, too. But bickell has had good chemistry with Bolland in the past. I still like the idea of bolland, shaw, and frolik. They could actually be a decent checking line even though they aren't the biggest players |
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ArlingtonRob
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Location: 230 years was a good run, IL Joined: 01.20.2012
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Really makes you wonder what the flying PHUCK Q and his yes men are even thinking with that static set-up... - prd797
Are you certain the players are properly executing what's being "coached"?
Blaming the coaches is easy, I choose to place most of the blame of the players...since they're the ones who have actual control of puck. The Hawks PP has been awful for several years, so placing full blame on Kompon makes little sense.
The most I'll say is that Kompon hasn't "fixed" the broken PP he inherited. |
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rollpards19
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>To me, 1-3-1 is the best formation
>PP unit #1: Hossa as the lone "point man" in the middle top
>Kane on lower right circle/boards
>Sharp (if healthy) on lower left circle/boards
>Toews in the high slot
>Bickel in front of the net (can also slide behind the net as passing outlet)
>PP unit #2:
>Leddy would be my #2 unit lone "point man"
>Stalberg on lower right circle/boards
>Seabrook on lower left circle/boards
>Saad in the high slot
>Shaw in front of the net (can also slide behind the net as passing outlet)
>Sharp & Seabrook can always slide "back" toward a traditional point option as needed under pressure on their respective PP units - SnapitUpstairs
I can't express how much I agree with this post |
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UnnamedSource
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I said, good day! - Baaaaaaannerman!
Did you say that with a British or Australian accent? |
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rollpards19
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Location: Where ever doesn't get me hit, IL Joined: 05.03.2012
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I really never understood this Hart talk for Kane. He isn't even MVP of his own team.
You can make the argument for Crosby vs Toews. But if it is about 1 single players importance to his team - Toews wins it. Especially after the Pens deadline moves. Crosby is gone - they still win.
Without Toews - the Hawks would have real problems. Maybe that is Backes was so interested in hurting him Sunday. - tredbrta
Also this post, I've been on this for a while, Toews is scary good |
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PFD_Hawks
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looks like hawks vs pens march 1st Soldier Field. |
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Nucker101
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Okay, now I see why you guys hate Backes so much. |
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