Thank you... every website I look at is in finnish...

I think he should just play in rocbester... most of these buffalo guys would juat poison him..

Get the girgensons - grigo - armia line back together for the amerks
- JVince11

BRB buying playoff tickets.

Holy poop that kid is white.
- Tsyolin

Good Lord, you are right.

Hitler would have loved him.

Good Lord, you are right.

Hitler would have loved him.
- Powerslave

Thank you... every website I look at is in finnish...

I think he should just play in rocbester... most of these buffalo guys would juat poison him..

Get the girgensons - grigo - armia line back together for the amerks
- JVince11

do you have a link? Would like to check it out...
- toddkac

To watch the game?
No, I don't

Send "gerbe" a pm... He might have one
Or go to Sabresprospects.com
Ask Kris Baker how he watches the games

I'm talking our organizational depth, NOT guys that will be or are in Buffalo.

If they can't trust guys like Biega, Schiestel or Leduc - guys who have been playing pro all season - TO PLAY A HANDFUL OF GAMES AT THE END OF A MEANINGLESS SEASON over a guy straight from the damn college campus, it says something.
- Powerslave

Justin Schultz says hello. I see McCabe making the jump too.
You need to do a little research before jumping off the ledge. It is more common then you think for College players to make the jump to the NHL.

PS Why is he coming straight from the College Campus? Don´t games get played in an arena?

He has already lost a year. Not playing him for the rest of the season in the NHL wont keep him from "losing a year towards UFA".

It does not go by games played. It goes by games on the active roster. He was on the active roster for 27 games (healthy scratch for a number of games). Therefore, he loses a year off his ELC, which "technically" brings him a year closer to UFA. He will still be an RFA in 2 years.
- theblueandgold

then is Bob McKensie wrong?

Bob McKenzie ‏@TSNBobMcKenzie 20 Mar
I missed this when BUF sent Grigorenko to QMJHL. Had he played 1 more NHL game (23rd), season would have counted towards free agency.

Bob McKenzie ‏@TSNBobMcKenzie 20 Mar
In full NHL season, 40 GP counts as "year's service" toward 7 req'd for UFA status. In lockout shortened season, it's 23. Grigs played 22.

Bob McKenzie ‏@TSNBobMcKenzie 20 Mar
So while Grigorenko burned 1st year of entry level deal by playing 6 games, this season doesn't count towards service time req'd for UFA.

then is Bob McKensie wrong?

Bob McKenzie ‏@TSNBobMcKenzie 20 Mar
I missed this when BUF sent Grigorenko to QMJHL. Had he played 1 more NHL game (23rd), season would have counted towards free agency.

Bob McKenzie ‏@TSNBobMcKenzie 20 Mar
In full NHL season, 40 GP counts as "year's service" toward 7 req'd for UFA status. In lockout shortened season, it's 23. Grigs played 22.

Bob McKenzie ‏@TSNBobMcKenzie 20 Mar
So while Grigorenko burned 1st year of entry level deal by playing 6 games, this season doesn't count towards service time req'd for UFA.
- metzeric

And there you have it folks.

Thank you... every website I look at is in finnish...

I think he should just play in rocbester... most of these buffalo guys would juat poison him..

Get the girgensons - grigo - armia line back together for the amerks
- JVince11

Sabresprospects.com gives great updates

Also,
If u go to "eliteprospects.com" it has links to the English versions of websites from many different leagues
Here's their version of the Finnish league that Armia is in
http://www.eliteprospects...eague_home.php?leagueid=6

then is Bob McKensie wrong?

Bob McKenzie ‏@TSNBobMcKenzie 20 Mar
I missed this when BUF sent Grigorenko to QMJHL. Had he played 1 more NHL game (23rd), season would have counted towards free agency.

Bob McKenzie ‏@TSNBobMcKenzie 20 Mar
In full NHL season, 40 GP counts as "year's service" toward 7 req'd for UFA status. In lockout shortened season, it's 23. Grigs played 22.

Bob McKenzie ‏@TSNBobMcKenzie 20 Mar
So while Grigorenko burned 1st year of entry level deal by playing 6 games, this season doesn't count towards service time req'd for UFA.
- metzeric

Didnt someone else from TSN correct him?

Thank you... every website I look at is in finnish...

I think he should just play in rocbester... most of these buffalo guys would juat poison him..

Get the girgensons - grigo - armia line back together for the amerks
- JVince11

That could be a really nice line for Rochester

Didnt someone else from TSN correct him?
- theblueandgold

Citation please.

Didnt someone else from TSN correct him?
- theblueandgold

yep you are right just found it


Bob McKenzie ‏@TSNBobMcKenzie 21 Mar
Correction on last night's tweet re: Grigorenko's year of accrued service. As some pointed out, it's 23 on roster, not 23 GP. My mistake.

That could be a really nice line for Rochester
- jdfitz77

Justin Schultz says hello. I see McCabe making the jump too.
You need to do a little research before jumping off the ledge. It is more common then you think for College players to make the jump to the NHL.

PS Why is he coming straight from the College Campus? Don´t games get played in an arena?
- toddkac

Good God, don't tell me I need to do research there, Sabre King. Because you are completely missing my point.

There have been players playing in Rochester ALL DAMN YEAR who are not getting this call up?!?!?!?!?!?!

WHY!?!?!?!?!?!?!

This kid is NOT Justin Schultz. He would have been snapped up immediately. And he wasn't.

yep you are right just found it


Bob McKenzie ‏@TSNBobMcKenzie 21 Mar
Correction on last night's tweet re: Grigorenko's year of accrued service. As some pointed out, it's 23 on roster, not 23 GP. My mistake.
- metzeric

Oh so he's already screwed in that regards then...... ugh.

Good God, don't tell me I need to do research there, Sabre King. Because you are completely missing my point.

There have been players playing in Rochester ALL DAMN YEAR who are not getting this call up?!?!?!?!?!?!

WHY!?!?!?!?!?!?!

This kid is NOt Justin Schultz. He would have been snapped up immediately. And he wasn't.
- Powerslave

because rochester needs a team too

Didnt someone else from TSN correct him?
- theblueandgold

Craig Button Craig Button ‏@CraigJButton 20 Mar

1/3. Only person asleep at wheel was me. CBA definition for "Accrued Season" is number of games a player was on active roster. (Cont.)

Craig Button Craig Button ‏@CraigJButton 20 Mar

2/3: Thus Grigorenko & Matteau while not playing 23 games were on team's roster for 23 games & gain 1 accrued season for purposes of UFA.
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Craig Button ‏@CraigJButton 20 Mar

3/3: Nuance of CBA & I should know better. Learn everyday but I was wrong. @TSNBobMcKenzie wasn't wrong. It was I who was ill informed.
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then is Bob McKensie wrong?

Bob McKenzie ‏@TSNBobMcKenzie 20 Mar
I missed this when BUF sent Grigorenko to QMJHL. Had he played 1 more NHL game (23rd), season would have counted towards free agency.

Bob McKenzie ‏@TSNBobMcKenzie 20 Mar
In full NHL season, 40 GP counts as "year's service" toward 7 req'd for UFA status. In lockout shortened season, it's 23. Grigs played 22.

Bob McKenzie ‏@TSNBobMcKenzie 20 Mar
So while Grigorenko burned 1st year of entry level deal by playing 6 games, this season doesn't count towards service time req'd for UFA.
- metzeric

Jordan fades back....... swooosh...... and that's the game!!!

EDIT : (frank)

because rochester needs a team too
- robz228

You missed the point too.

This college kid could have gone to Rochester, while one of their's gets the call up.

Why is this so hard to understand?

Craig Button Craig Button ‏@CraigJButton 20 Mar

1/3. Only person asleep at wheel was me. CBA definition for "Accrued Season" is number of games a player was on active roster. (Cont.)

Craig Button Craig Button ‏@CraigJButton 20 Mar

2/3: Thus Grigorenko & Matteau while not playing 23 games were on team's roster for 23 games & gain 1 accrued season for purposes of UFA.
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Craig Button ‏@CraigJButton 20 Mar

3/3: Nuance of CBA & I should know better. Learn everyday but I was wrong. @TSNBobMcKenzie wasn't wrong. It was I who was ill informed.
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- theblueandgold

I don't even know anymore

Good God, don't tell me I need to do research there, Sabre King. Because you are completely missing my point.

There have been players playing in Rochester ALL DAMN YEAR who are not getting this call up?!?!?!?!?!?!

WHY!?!?!?!?!?!?!

This kid is NOT Justin Schultz. He would have been snapped up immediately. And he wasn't.
- Powerslave

It is not about being a "sabres king" just about paying attention to hockey.

Here this will help
http://www.letsplayhockey...m-college-to-the-nhl.html

Just because they play in Rochester that means they should get a callup???

You missed the point too.

This college kid could have gone to Rochester, while one of their's gets the call up.

Why is this so hard to understand?
- Powerslave

It is you that is having the hard time understanding.

THE PLAYERS IN THE NHL ARE EITHER NOT NHL READY OR NEVER WILL BE.

YES, PLAYERS JUMP FROM COLLEGE TO NHL ALL THE TIME.

/topic

Good God, don't tell me I need to do research there, Sabre King. Because you are completely missing my point.

There have been players playing in Rochester ALL DAMN YEAR who are not getting this call up?!?!?!?!?!?!

WHY!?!?!?!?!?!?!

This kid is NOT Justin Schultz. He would have been snapped up immediately. And he wasn't.
- Powerslave

Well he couldn't be snapped up until his teams season was over though.... I really wanted Sustr from Omaha but tb signed him first...

I don't even know anymore
- Tsyolin

The CBA defines an "accrued season" as games on the active roster, NOT games played. Therefore 27 games on active roster = accrued season. He's lost a year.

I'm willing to bet that Darcy was confused with the CBA language, as McKenzie and some of us are about this whole situation. Thats why he sent Grigorenko back at 22 games played, thinking he was probably safe from an accrued season.