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Homer
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Parts Unknown
Joined: 10.05.2006

Apr 13 @ 11:43 AM ET
An extra game doesnt affect anything. Hes already past that limit. Hes already burned a year in which we couldve used it later because he didnt play a full season.

Technically, long term, wasting a year is bringing him closer to UFA 1 year earlier than he otherwise would have, but he will still be an RFA.

Think about if he was ready to play in the NHL, and was here anyway. He would still be an RFA at the end of 3 years regardless. After that contract, depending on length is when he would become UFA. So essentially, burning a year off his ELC in a year he didnt play the all of it, in long term brings him closer to UFA 1 year early.

- theblueandgold


are you 100% sure, because this is not what they said on WGR nor how it was explained to me.

I'm not saying I know I'm right because I don't, just going off what Ive heard on the radio and been told.
Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Arriving Somewhere But Not Here
Joined: 02.10.2011

Apr 13 @ 11:44 AM ET
Tell you what, guys.

If our organization is that bad off with defensemen not already up here (minus McNabb and McCabe, of course), they'd better insist on some d-men coming back in any trades they make this summer.
toddkac
Joined: 11.21.2009

Apr 13 @ 11:44 AM ET
No offense Homer, but Bob McKenzie and Craig Button already cleared this up when Grigs was sent down. It wasn't games played, it was games on the active roster.

He HAS already used up a year of eligibilty.

I'll try and find the link for you if I can.

- Powerslave

I year of his contract but not a year of his UFA elgibility
Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Arriving Somewhere But Not Here
Joined: 02.10.2011

Apr 13 @ 11:46 AM ET
I year of his contract but not a year of his UFA elgibility
- toddkac


No wonder it took them months to hammer out a new CBA.

JVince11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK
Joined: 07.13.2011

Apr 13 @ 11:46 AM ET
are you 100% sure, because this is not what they said on WGR nor how it was explained to me.

I'm not saying I know I'm right because I don't, just going off what Ive heard on the radio and been told.

- Homer

So can he play a few games in rochester and make no difference or does buffalo or rochester not count different?

Does anyone know how armia's team is doing? Could he be reporting really soon?
toddkac
Joined: 11.21.2009

Apr 13 @ 11:46 AM ET
Tell you what, guys.

If our organization is that bad off with defensemen not already up here (minus McNabb and McCabe, of course), they'd better insist on some d-men coming back in any trades they make this summer.

- Powerslave

Sekera
Ehrhoff
Pysyk
Myers
Weber
McNabb

sign a couple in the offseason. No need to trade unless it is a top 4
Buffalo--Sabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: 2 15/16, NY
Joined: 07.07.2010

Apr 13 @ 11:47 AM ET
Yeah same, this shortened season has been nothing but a nightmare.
- Tsyolin



Makes you wonder where Tornto and Montreal would really end up.
Gmcc24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.02.2006

Apr 13 @ 11:47 AM ET
I seriously want to caption the cover photo of this blog post, but I'm pretty sure it would get me banned
JVince11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK
Joined: 07.13.2011

Apr 13 @ 11:47 AM ET
Tell you what, guys.

If our organization is that bad off with defensemen not already up here (minus McNabb and McCabe, of course), they'd better insist on some d-men coming back in any trades they make this summer.

- Powerslave


Draft Monahan at #7 and draft zadorov at #14....

Homer
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Parts Unknown
Joined: 10.05.2006

Apr 13 @ 11:47 AM ET
So can he play a few games in rochester and make no difference or does buffalo or rochester not count different?

Does anyone know how armia's team is doing? Could he be reporting really soon?

- JVince11


not sure
toddkac
Joined: 11.21.2009

Apr 13 @ 11:50 AM ET
No wonder it took them months to hammer out a new CBA.
- Powerslave

come again?
theblueandgold
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Denzel, WA
Joined: 03.05.2009

Apr 13 @ 11:52 AM ET
So can he play a few games in rochester and make no difference or does buffalo or rochester not count different?

Does anyone know how armia's team is doing? Could he be reporting really soon?

- JVince11


Grigorenko can play in Buffalo or Rochester with no further complications.

He was on the active roster for 27 games. Under free agency calculations for Group III (Unrestricted) free agents, the requirements for an "accrued season" (in a shortened season) is 23 games. So therefore, he has acquired an "accrued season" towards his UFA status.

All that means is that this year we burned the first year of his ELC. He will still be an RFA at the end of this contract, which is 2 years from now. Depending on the length of that contract (if he receives a 1 yr or 2 yr deal, he will still be a RFA, but if he receives say a 4 year deal, he will then become a UFA) is what determines when he will be a UFA. If he was on our roster for 22 games, he couldve been sent back to juniors, and his ELC deal would have earned a "slide".
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Apr 13 @ 11:54 AM ET
Just think though it appears that more star draftees are going to go to places where hockey is irrelevant!
metzeric
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 07.06.2006

Apr 13 @ 11:56 AM ET
Grigorenko can play in Buffalo or Rochester with no further complications.

He was on the active roster for 27 games. Under free agency calculations for Group III (Unrestricted) free agents, the requirements for an "accrued season" (in a shortened season) is 23 games. So therefore, he has acquired an "accrued season" towards his UFA status.

All that means is that this year we burned the first year of his ELC. He will still be an RFA at the end of this contract, which is 2 years from now. Depending on the length of that contract (if he receives a 1 yr or 2 yr deal, he will still be a RFA, but if he receives say a 4 year deal, he will then become a UFA) is what determines when he will be a UFA. If he was on our roster for 22 games, he couldve been sent back to juniors, and his ELC deal would have earned a "slide".

- theblueandgold


this is correct except he has only played 22 games so 1 more makes him lose a yr towards ufa
toddkac
Joined: 11.21.2009

Apr 13 @ 11:56 AM ET
Draft Monahan at #7 and draft zadorov at #14....


- JVince11

One better

Draft McKinnon or Jones at #1 and Monahan #7
Tsyolin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: @TsyolinSounds, Rochester, NY
Joined: 02.19.2013

Apr 13 @ 11:57 AM ET
shame you just dont get it.
- toddkac


Stop giving excuses for the players to underperform and expecting us to deal with it.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Apr 13 @ 11:58 AM ET
So can he play a few games in rochester and make no difference or does buffalo or rochester not count different?

Does anyone know how armia's team is doing? Could he be reporting really soon?

- JVince11


Since coming back from injury...
Armia has led his team from 12th place, all the way to the league finals...
He prob won't make any reg season games, but could be here for the playoffs in Rochester
toddkac
Joined: 11.21.2009

Apr 13 @ 11:59 AM ET
Stop giving excuses for the players to underperform and expecting us to deal with it.
- Tsyolin

I donĀ“t expect you to do anything. It is a sport, choose to handle it as you wish.
Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Arriving Somewhere But Not Here
Joined: 02.10.2011

Apr 13 @ 11:59 AM ET
Sekera
Ehrhoff
Pysyk
Myers
Weber
McNabb

sign a couple in the offseason. No need to trade unless it is a top 4

- toddkac



I'm talking our organizational depth, NOT guys that will be or are in Buffalo.

If they can't trust guys like Biega, Schiestel or Leduc - guys who have been playing pro all season - TO PLAY A HANDFUL OF GAMES AT THE END OF A MEANINGLESS SEASON over a guy straight from the damn college campus, it says something.
toddkac
Joined: 11.21.2009

Apr 13 @ 12:00 PM ET
Since coming back from injury...
Armia has led his team from 12th place, all the way to the league finals...
He prob won't make any reg season games, but could be here for the playoffs in Rochester

- jdfitz77

do you have a link? Would like to check it out...
theblueandgold
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Denzel, WA
Joined: 03.05.2009

Apr 13 @ 12:01 PM ET
this is correct except he has only played 22 games so 1 more makes him lose a yr towards ufa
- metzeric


He has already lost a year. Not playing him for the rest of the season in the NHL wont keep him from "losing a year towards UFA".

It does not go by games played. It goes by games on the active roster. He was on the active roster for 27 games (healthy scratch for a number of games). Therefore, he loses a year off his ELC, which "technically" brings him a year closer to UFA. He will still be an RFA in 2 years.
Tsyolin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: @TsyolinSounds, Rochester, NY
Joined: 02.19.2013

Apr 13 @ 12:02 PM ET
I'm talking our organizational depth, NOT guys that will be or are in Buffalo.

If they can't trust guys like Biega, Schiestel or Leduc - guys who have been playing pro all year - over a guy straight from the damn college campus, it says something.

- Powerslave


Gerbe was an NCAA tourny start too and you know how much we already love him.
toddkac
Joined: 11.21.2009

Apr 13 @ 12:03 PM ET
http://www.assat.com/page.php?id=57&player_id=564

Assat home page
Tsyolin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: @TsyolinSounds, Rochester, NY
Joined: 02.19.2013

Apr 13 @ 12:04 PM ET
http://www.assat.com/page.php?id=57&player_id=564

Assat home page

- toddkac


Holy poop that kid is white.
JVince11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK
Joined: 07.13.2011

Apr 13 @ 12:04 PM ET
Since coming back from injury...
Armia has led his team from 12th place, all the way to the league finals...
He prob won't make any reg season games, but could be here for the playoffs in Rochester

- jdfitz77

Thank you... every website I look at is in finnish...

I think he should just play in rocbester... most of these buffalo guys would juat poison him..

Get the girgensons - grigo - armia line back together for the amerks
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