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isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Apr 11 @ 9:56 PM ET
Probably not good, because a lot on here didn't think a 1st in 2013 and another pick in 2014 for Subban was worth it.
- jstross

if it was lottery protected, i would have. i've wanted pk here for 3 yrs.
Philly1980
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.30.2011

Apr 11 @ 9:57 PM ET
I worry about a guy who can be negated by physical play. Talent-wise, he's got the goods, but if he can be intimidated in the WHL, he'll never be a stud in the NHL
- Jsaquella

Has to be real young with a poop ton of potential
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Apr 11 @ 9:57 PM ET
It's right now and will likely change, but he is one I think you can't get too much into right now and think long term potential with him.

I considered Domi, Pulock, & Zadorov for 10th.

- ob18


Zadorov would be 11th for me. I still like him, but he seems to be further off than the others.
jstross
Joined: 06.25.2012

Apr 11 @ 9:58 PM ET
Depends on which defenseman.
- Jsaquella


If he wouldn't do it for Subban would he really do it for another Dman that a team would recipricate?
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Apr 11 @ 9:59 PM ET
Zadorov would be 11th for me. I still like him, but he seems to be further off than the others.
- Jsaquella


I could go top 20 but I agree he's at least 11th on my list too.
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Apr 11 @ 9:59 PM ET
For those wanting to get on the Zadorov train.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-aOIHbZq08
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Apr 11 @ 9:59 PM ET
Depends on which defenseman.
- Jsaquella

who is realistic with this pick in your opinion?
jstross
Joined: 06.25.2012

Apr 11 @ 9:59 PM ET
if it was lottery protected, i would have. i've wanted pk here for 3 yrs.
- isaiah520


You wouldn't trade a (at the time) a 6th pick(potenitally #1) in the draft for Subban? I would've.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Apr 11 @ 10:02 PM ET
If he wouldn't do it for Subban would he really do it for another Dman that a team would recipricate?
- jstross


Things have changed since last draft and even earlier in the year
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Apr 11 @ 10:03 PM ET
You wouldn't trade a (at the time) a 6th pick(potenitally #1) in the draft for Subban? I would've.
- jstross

if you mean at the 2012 draft, i would have, not the 2011 draft though. at the prior draft, i was hoping we'd just draft hamilton.
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Apr 11 @ 10:04 PM ET
If the Flyers want to roll with their usual trend of going after guys that other teams are souring on, I'd be hesitant with Myers.

Ouch.
jstross
Joined: 06.25.2012

Apr 11 @ 10:04 PM ET
Kudos to Bryz for calling out what has become a media that has become sensationalist with little foundation in truth.
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Apr 11 @ 10:05 PM ET
who is realistic with this pick in your opinion?
- isaiah520


I think you see the big 4 (jones, drouin, mack, barkov) probably go top 4. Im thinking Nurse goes 5 realistically.

Outside of the first few guys it could be anyone.
FlyerMike18
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 03.07.2009

Apr 11 @ 10:05 PM ET
Kudos to Bryz for calling out what has become a media that has become sensationalist with little foundation in truth.
- jstross


what did he say?
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Apr 11 @ 10:05 PM ET
Kudos to Bryz for calling out what has become a media that has become sensationalist with little foundation in truth.
- jstross


Dont have philly feed.

Whats the story?
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Apr 11 @ 10:06 PM ET
Kudos to Bryz for calling out what has become a media that has become sensationalist with little foundation in truth.
- jstross


Win games and no one cares what you do.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Apr 11 @ 10:07 PM ET
who is realistic with this pick in your opinion?
- isaiah520


Good question. I'd have to check capgeek and other sources to give you a good answer.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Apr 11 @ 10:07 PM ET
What was the point of saying yeah and I'd like to have Crosby, Malkin and Ovechkin after talking about Ryan? Flyers could land Ryan pretty easily without trading a current forward. Price would be steep though in terms of picks. 2013 and 2014 first and Laughton and anaheim parts with Ryan with no problem. I wouldn't do it, but the 'reality' is he could be obtained without a Flyer NHL forward.
- jstross


In reply to the poster who pretty much was saying that reality doesn't matter, and that you were just posting a roster you'd like to see. Well why stop at Ryan then?

I think the factor that you're overlooking is that there is a Salary Cap. And that the Cap is going down. And the Flyers are going to be tight to it.
bradleyc4
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the jewelry is still out
Joined: 01.16.2007

Apr 11 @ 10:08 PM ET
what did he say?
- FlyerMike18


"It's embarrassing, guys. Are you reading what you are writing?"

Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Apr 11 @ 10:08 PM ET
Win games and no one cares what you do.
- stveshdy


That's bullpoop.

Flyers went to the ECF in 2008 and the SCF in 2010. How many stories did we see about the partying? They had 100 points last season, how much did we see about Spaceman Bryz?
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Apr 11 @ 10:09 PM ET
"It's embarrassing, guys. Are you reading what you are writing?"


- bradleyc4


Hes too funny.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Apr 11 @ 10:09 PM ET
Kudos to Bryz for calling out what has become a media that has become sensationalist with little foundation in truth.
- jstross


There is definitely some TMZ style reporting to the Philly media crew, that being said I believe the Flyers have a rat in their room that feeds poop to these reporters.
Philly1980
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.30.2011

Apr 11 @ 10:09 PM ET
what did he say?
- FlyerMike18

@utley: "you became, i don't know, like non-professional journalists. it's embarrassing. you've got to do your job better."

@NickTheKid87: "You gotta do your job better...It's really embarrassing." - Bryz on beat writers. #Truth
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Apr 11 @ 10:09 PM ET
In reply to the poster who pretty much was saying that reality doesn't matter, and that you were just posting a roster you'd like to see. Well why stop at Ryan then?

I think the factor that you're overlooking is that there is a Salary Cap. And that the Cap is going down. And the Flyers are going to be tight to it.

- MJL


Is Ryan a guy you would be willing to have take up as much cap space as he does?

I would not. People say Giroux needs a shooter, but what Giroux needs first and foremost is to play better himself.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Apr 11 @ 10:10 PM ET
That's bullpoop.

Flyers went to the ECF in 2008 and the SCF in 2010. How many stories did we see about the partying? They had 100 points last season, how much did we see about Spaceman Bryz?

- Jsaquella


I'm talking about real hockey fans. I dont give a rats ass about the media. Thats an excuse imo. Who gives a crap what they write.
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