So, 4 minutes later with the game tied Nash wants to be a tough guy? Yeah, OK!!!! - Francois Leroux
Where was Nash trying to be a tough guy? Cooke was trying to get the Rangers to take a dumb retaliation penalty and it didn't happen. That's not being scared, that's just being smart.
Nash for Cooke? Nice trade off, a third line grinder for your best forward.
Nice shot....a little taste of his own medicine for Neal. He's got more coming, too. - tymed8
Give it up. More coming from where exactly? You're a joke.
Also, the play was completely incidental. IMO MDZ braced himself for a hit that, he thought, was going to be high up. All that he did was try to push back through Neal. He just mistimed the hit since he wasn't looking. If he didn't go backwards toward Neal he would have been pasted head first behind the net.
Nice photo, that is something any Pens teammate would do, if an opposing player was talking trash to Crosby or Malkin.
See Nash smiling? Think anyone takes Cooke seriously outside of your fan base? - MidnightMarauder
I agree. Nash does not need to be fighting or getting a bench minor for someone who is a less significant player. Cooke's job is to throw players off their game. Nash just hasn't stooped to his level. As you would expect Malkin or Crosby with Dorsett.
Give it up. More coming from where exactly? You're a joke.
Also, the play was completely incidental. IMO MDZ braced himself for a hit that, he thought, was going to be high up. All that he did was try to push back through Neal. He just mistimed the hit since he wasn't looking. If he didn't go backwards toward Neal he would have been pasted head first behind the net. - cranktheradio
If Del Zotto was facing Neal, he doesn't put his arms up for the hit. it was an unfortunate play, Del Zotto did not intend to hurt Neal on that hit.
I agree. Nash does not need to be fighting or getting a bench minor for someone who is a less significant player. Cooke's job is to throw players off their game. Nash just hasn't stooped to his level. As you would expect Malkin or Crosby with Dorsett. - Mapleleafs37
Exactly, Crosby or Malkin succumbing to a player like Dorsett's antics would not be manly, it would be flat out stupid.
Jannik Hansen got suspended for attempting to bat a puck out of the air. Made accidental contact with Hossa who was backing into him. If that warrants a suspension, then this play certainly does as well.
i dont think he should be but with the way the league deals with these type issues yes he has to be suspended. maybe 2 or 3 games. one of the things the league always says you have to be in control and del zotto was not.
Bjugstad debuts tonight in South Florida. If he was a Leaf or Oiler this would be the topic of the day. Thanks EK. Good call btw w Bouwmeester to Det...
Jannik Hansen got suspended for attempting to bat a puck out of the air. Made accidental contact with Hossa who was backing into him. If that warrants a suspension, then this play certainly does as well. - YeOldTimer
Totally agree... but that was the Canucks factor(NHL doesn't like you) and this is the Rangers factor(NHL won't suspend you at all)
Totally agree... but that was the Canucks factor(NHL doesn't like you) and this is the Rangers factor(NHL won't suspend you at all) - nelson911
So true
- thundachunk
I know it as last year (playoffs), but they did suspend Hags
For 3 games which was too many, given the play. Might make you
Reconsider your 'bias' bias.
If Del Zotto was facing Neal, he doesn't put his arms up for the hit. it was an unfortunate play, Del Zotto did not intend to hurt Neal on that hit. - MidnightMarauder
Completely agree with you as a Pens, but more so, as a hockey fan. I know there are guys on here that have played competitive hockey. As soon as I saw Neal going at MDZ I thought to myself "heads up.". Even my 11 year old daughter saw what happened. Del Zotto was trying to initiate the contact from a difficult position. If he doesn't, he honestly goes towards the boards because of where he was on the ice. Every player, from pee wee on up, learns how to protect themselves with leverage. He left his feet because he thought Neal would be there earlier and was simply trying to make contact as Neal was making contact. The elbow was up due to the fact that he was twisting and bracing at the same time. Almost like a follow through (a lot like Cooke on Karlson). No intent. Anyone who's even played pickup hockey has taken an accidental elbow like this.
Also, Cooke is no longer a "dirty" player. That said, every team that goes out there is trying to get an edge. They all have players that agitate and occasionally cross the line. Every team! The thing is, these are always the players you hate on other teams, but love on yours. And, as far as Dupuis goes...his intent was to "hurt" Del Zotto. But, there is a huge difference between hurt and injure. Everyone wants to hurt opposing players. Very few guys want to injure someone else.
I know it as last year (playoffs), but they did suspend Hags
For 3 games which was too many, given the play. Might make you
Reconsider your 'bias' bias. - BobbySchmautz
What Bias? I agreed with someone's comment which wasn't my own. As for the current hit IMO it was not suspension worthy. Rick Nash's hit was and considering he is one of my favourite players to watch would it be bias that I thought he should have received a suspension? My only bias is towards my own team which I usually remain as unbiased as possible.
Completely agree with you as a Pens, but more so, as a hockey fan. I know there are guys on here that have played competitive hockey. As soon as I saw Neal going at MDZ I thought to myself "heads up.". Even my 11 year old daughter saw what happened. Del Zotto was trying to initiate the contact from a difficult position. If he doesn't, he honestly goes towards the boards because of where he was on the ice. Every player, from pee wee on up, learns how to protect themselves with leverage. He left his feet because he thought Neal would be there earlier and was simply trying to make contact as Neal was making contact. The elbow was up due to the fact that he was twisting and bracing at the same time. Almost like a follow through (a lot like Cooke on Karlson). No intent. Anyone who's even played pickup hockey has taken an accidental elbow like this.
Also, Cooke is no longer a "dirty" player. That said, every team that goes out there is trying to get an edge. They all have players that agitate and occasionally cross the line. Every team! The thing is, these are always the players you hate on other teams, but love on yours. And, as far as Dupuis goes...his intent was to "hurt" Del Zotto. But, there is a huge difference between hurt and injure. Everyone wants to hurt opposing players. Very few guys want to injure someone else. - cranktheradio
I agree with your first point very well put..but Cooke While he has toned it down but his offences are to numerous. He will strike again.
What Bias? I agreed with someone's comment which wasn't my own. As for the current hit IMO it was not suspension worthy. Rick Nash's hit was and considering he is one of my favourite players to watch would it be bias that I thought he should have received a suspension? My only bias is towards my own team which I usually remain as unbiased as possible. - thundachunk
Sounded like you were agreeing that NYR won't get any
Suspensions this year. No?
Does Del Zotto know Neal is there? Obviously, hes bracing for a hit in the back. However his elbow is tucked at his hip through out the play. Not like he stuck it out, Del Zotto probably had no idea what Neal's positioning was... as far as DZ knew Neal was coming in to give him a hard shove in the back.
Completely different than a play that looks like this...
Where you have Cooke skating in to check, obviously knows he wont get him and just sticks out an elbow for no good reason.