Here is hoping Brayden Schenn tears his ACL. Considering his behavior everytime he takes to the ice against the Pens - intentionally flying through the air and boarding Penguins like Paul Martin and knocking him out for the season ... that would be karma. It couldn't happen to a more worthy person.

You are one delusional schmuck thinking MDZ didn't know what he was doing. He was reckless. He turned and saw Neal out of the corner of his eyes. He knew. If he didn't, the elbow wouldn't have come up and nailed him.
- Oneonta Penguin

C'mon don't you know the Flyers are saints and they NEVER get involved in a dirty play!

Shenn getting introduced to Murray would be Karma.

Here is hoping Brayden Schenn tears his ACL. Considering his behavior everytime he takes to the ice against the Pens - intentionally flying through the air and boarding Penguins like Paul Martin and knocking him out for the season ... that would be karma. It couldn't happen to a more worthy person.

You are one delusional schmuck thinking MDZ didn't know what he was doing. He was reckless. He turned and saw Neal out of the corner of his eyes. He knew. If he didn't, the elbow wouldn't have come up and nailed him.
- Oneonta Penguin

That's cold. I don't "hope" injury upon anyone. I have no qualms with saying that players who play dirty will likely receive it back, and Neal is a case of that. I believe this is one of the scenarios where being injured by a questionable hit will benefit the player, because they can begin to see the drawbacks of employing questionable hits, etc. Neal, at least in that Flyers' series, had no regard for player safety or even general respect. Until he realizes the *actual* consequences of his actions (not suspensions/fines, but rather the injury aspect), he will continue to act like a jackass.

Schenn, during intense games, can certainly get over-excited and run a player or two. Like many other Flyers' who play with an edge, he's able to be an incredibly effective player as long as he walks the line carefully. When Flyers dressed players like Downie and Carcillo, they were fun to watch. On the same token, I had hoped they would tame it down and learn how to respect a player. As you can see, the Flyers realized they couldn't/wouldn't, and they shipped them off. Rinaldo is doing a very good job of walking that line. Hartnell has done a great job with it for years, but still has the occasional brain fart.

Either way, Neal should use this as a lesson.

That's cold. I don't "hope" injury upon anyone. I have no qualms with saying that players who play dirty will likely receive it back, and Neal is a case of that. I believe this is one of the scenarios where being injured by a questionable hit will benefit the player, because they can begin to see the drawbacks of employing questionable hits, etc. Neal, at least in that Flyers' series, had no regard for player safety or even general respect. Until he realizes the *actual* consequences of his actions (not suspensions/fines, but rather the injury aspect), he will continue to act like a jackass.

Schenn, during intense games, can certainly get over-excited and run a player or two. Like many other Flyers' who play with an edge, he's able to be an incredibly effective player as long as he walks the line carefully. When Flyers dressed players like Downie and Carcillo, they were fun to watch. On the same token, I had hoped they would tame it down and learn how to respect a player. As you can see, the Flyers realized they couldn't/wouldn't, and they shipped them off. Rinaldo is doing a very good job of walking that line. Hartnell has done a great job with it for years, but still has the occasional brain fart.

Either way, Neal should use this as a lesson.
- steelydan

It's cold, but its a response that needed to be made. Brayden Schenn is reckless. He needs to be taught a lesson, supposedly just like James Neal. Just responding to a post from an idiot Flyer fan who thought Neal deserved it.

Shenn needs to be taught a lesson as well. He is dirty as well. So, Neal is dirty, but Shenn gets over-excited in intense games? See where I'm going?

That's cold. I don't "hope" injury upon anyone. I have no qualms with saying that players who play dirty will likely receive it back, and Neal is a case of that. I believe this is one of the scenarios where being injured by a questionable hit will benefit the player, because they can begin to see the drawbacks of employing questionable hits, etc. Neal, at least in that Flyers' series, had no regard for player safety or even general respect. Until he realizes the *actual* consequences of his actions (not suspensions/fines, but rather the injury aspect), he will continue to act like a jackass.

Schenn, during intense games, can certainly get over-excited and run a player or two. Like many other Flyers' who play with an edge, he's able to be an incredibly effective player as long as he walks the line carefully. When Flyers dressed players like Downie and Carcillo, they were fun to watch. On the same token, I had hoped they would tame it down and learn how to respect a player. As you can see, the Flyers realized they couldn't/wouldn't, and they shipped them off. Rinaldo is doing a very good job of walking that line. Hartnell has done a great job with it for years, but still has the occasional brain fart.

Either way, Neal should use this as a lesson.
- steelydan

For what? Keep his head up? What? He did nothing. He's a scorer, not a goon or agitator. Not sure what he's supposed to learn. He's not the guy who should keep his body under control on the play. He didn't throw the elbow.

Unless it's the playoffs when you face the team again right after, who really cares about suspensions? Obviously the league doesn't, or they would actually give out suspension of a punitive length to people besides Matt Cooke and Raffi Torres.

Hey look, Matt Cooke and Raffi Torres have changed how they hit people and have not been in trouble since. I guess long suspensions do change behavior, while the 2 game vacation suspension do nothing.

It's cold, but its a response that needed to be made. Brayden Schenn is reckless. He needs to be taught a lesson, supposedly just like James Neal. Just responding to a post from an idiot Flyer fan who thought Neal deserved it.

Shenn needs to be taught a lesson as well. He is dirty as well.
- Oneonta Penguin

You don't get it... You're not supposed to notice when a Flyer player is dirty.

You don't get it... You're not supposed to notice when a Flyer player is dirty.
- madmike71

I got it ... Flyer players are clean and pristine.

I got it ... Flyer players are clean and pristine.
- Oneonta Penguin

As the driven snow apparently

Also with these guys one play in a series determines a guys status as a player versus the overall body of his work. See where I'm going with this? Honestly it could refer to a certain shift they never shutup about too not just dirty players.

Iggy Curse?

My god you pens fans really are babies. What you guys fail to see was Neal was about to hit DZ from behind while he was engaged with another player. Forgive me if I don't feel sympathy for him

Maybe not fully engaged but Malkin was coming in from his left
- Marty Louganis

Yea, that came from a leafs fan...don't feel too stupid

As the driven snow apparently

Also with these guys one play in a series determines a guys status as a player versus the overall body of his work. See where I'm going with this? Honestly it could refer to a certain shift they never shutup about too not just dirty players.
- HopintheCordoba

You got to love Flyers fans of all people coming over here and lecturing us about dirty players.

Two words Chis Pronger..... One of the dirtiest mother F'rs to ever lace them up. People want to talk about karma... I present you with Chris Pronger and his current issues.

@pgshelly: Del Zotto told reporters this today about elbow that injured #Penguins Neal:

"Obviously it wasn't intentional. Unfortunately there was an injury. I know him. He's a friend of mine, so I feel terrible about it. It's a quick game and things happen. Fast out there, and it's just unfortunate there was an injury." #Penguins

You got to love Flyers fans of all people coming over here and lecturing us about dirty players.

Two words Chis Pronger..... One of the dirtiest mother F'rs to ever lace them up. People want to talk about karma... I present you with Chris Pronger and his current issues.
- madmike71

Exactly ... Pronger will go down as one of the biggest cheap shot artists to ever play the game - along with about 30 other Flyer players

@pgshelly: Del Zotto told reporters this today about elbow that injured #Penguins Neal:

"Obviously it wasn't intentional. Unfortunately there was an injury. I know him. He's a friend of mine, so I feel terrible about it. It's a quick game and things happen. Fast out there, and it's just unfortunate there was an injury." #Penguins
- HopintheCordoba

What else would he say? I did it intentionally? Doesn't make it ok. I guess Neal can use the same excuse last year in the Flyers series.

What else would he say? I did it intentionally? Doesn't make it ok. I guess Neal can use the same excuse last year in the Flyers series.
- Oneonta Penguin

Don't shoot the 2nd hand messenger

Neal Is a (frank)er, but the NHL plays obvious favorites, and it's quite sad

After what Kunitz got away with last weekend, I dont think you guys have anything to complain about.
- The_Inkwell

Good point

You got to love Flyers fans of all people coming over here and lecturing us about dirty players.

Two words Chis Pronger..... One of the dirtiest mother F'rs to ever lace them up. People want to talk about karma... I present you with Chris Pronger and his current issues.
- madmike71

Pronger not only had his career ruined, but his day-to-day life is a struggle. Yeah hes probably the dirtiest player that will get into the HHOF. But he also finds it difficukt to play with his children and live a normal life. So before we start pointing fingers, lets think about what we are trying to say. Cause you make yourself look like an ass when you say it's karma.

It was a reckless play and should be suspended as such. Not any different from the Nash hit or the Lupul hit or James Neal hit on Coots last year in the playoffs where "he didn't see him". Lets not pretend that the Pens are the only hated team. Every fan base has a group of teams that hate them, every team has a select few of players that can be dirty, from Cooke to Malkin and from Rinaldo to Giroux. But there's a bit of subjectivity in everything, not just when dealing with the Pens.

This is a moot discussion. In a league and website that you are a fan of the leagues most hated team, there is no way for things to be seen clearly.

Del Zotto is not dirty but he elbowed a player in the chin and knocked him out. Those are facts and SHOULD be reviewed.

Rags fans are going to come here defending and they won't agree, but you bet your sweet asses that if this same play was perpetrated by the EVIL MATT COOKE all the trolls would be calling for league expulsion.

Bottom line, equipment or not fans will be homer fans and the Pens are the Dark Side...embrace it.

AND (frank) ALL THE HATERS!!!
- Doogs

Ofcourse if Matt Cooke elbowed someone he would get suspended....

Del Zotto elbowed Neal during a hockey play....its not like he slashed your goalie when skating by his crease

What else would he say? I did it intentionally? Doesn't make it ok. I guess Neal can use the same excuse last year in the Flyers series.
- Oneonta Penguin

^He did

Good point
- proboy74

No, not really. Whoever thinks Kunitz did that intentionally doesn't know the game - especially since the Sabre player initiated contact.

Pronger not only had his career ruined, but his day-to-day life is a struggle. Yeah hes probably the dirtiest player that will get into the HHOF. But he also finds it difficukt to play with his children and live a normal life. So before we start pointing fingers, lets think about what we are trying to say. Cause you make yourself look like an ass when you say it's karma.

It was a reckless play and should be suspended as such. Not any different from the Nash hit or the Lupul hit or James Neal hit on Coots last year in the playoffs where "he didn't see him". Lets not pretend that the Pens are the only hated team. Every fan base has a group of teams that hate them, every team has a select few of players that can be dirty, from Cooke to Malkin and from Rinaldo to Giroux. But there's a bit of subjectivity in everything, not just when dealing with the Pens.
- GirouxForTheShow

If one of your fans didn't come on here mouthing off about Karma and Neal, Pronger wouldn't have been mentioned. I don't like Chris Pronger - never have. I feel sorry he is having problems. However, as one of your fans said its karma for Neal, then why can't it be karma for Progner who is 1000X worse?

If one of your fans didn't come on here mouthing off about Karma and Neal, Pronger wouldn't have been mentioned. I don't like Chris Pronger - never have. I feel sorry he is having problems. However, as one of your fans said its karma for Neal, then why can't it be karma for Progner who is 1000X worse?
- Oneonta Penguin

Because Neal got his bell rung, and Prongers life as he knew it is ruined. There's a point where the idiocy has to stop, right? On either side of the fan base. I'm far from not including the Flyers fan base in that.

Either way, I think his karma comment was more that Neal last year took a big run at Coots with no suspension (comparable to this situation) rather than aaahaa Neal got hurt which none of us actually know at this point.

Because Neal got his bell rung, and Prongers life as he knew it is ruined. There's a point where the idiocy has to stop, right? On either side of the fan base. I'm far from not including the Flyers fan base in that.

Either way, I think his karma comment was more that Neal last year took a big run at Coots with no suspension (comparable to this situation) rather than aaahaa Neal got hurt which none of us actually know at this point.
- GirouxForTheShow

So, if Brayden Shenn tore his ACL would it be karma for him intentionally leaving his feet from 10 feet out and ramming Martin into the boards injuring him and ending his season last year in the same play-off series and NO PENALTY was called?

Looks like someone read out blog.