- 2Real

hammer time!!!

at least we wont see you suckers in the playoffs... thank god. cant take the drama of another series between the 2 of us haha

but in all seriousness, what is with guys like Giroux and Couts? both of those guys burned us in the playoffs and were looking like the next big things in Philly...

but it's obvious you guys need a top dman. asking guys like timmonen to play 20+ a game were fine a few years ago but today it's just too much to ask. same thing going on with the penguins while missing letang and martin... guys like oprik and niskanen have to play 18-25 minutes and it just isn't working out. wouldn't be surprised to see you target one of Florida's top defensemen or even go out west and look at yandle...

but hey look at the bright side, if you guys were going to be off... a 47 game season with one of the deepest drafts was probably the year to do it...

He moves well for a bigger guy, too. His trouble has been in making adjustments. He'll get scrambly and get beat or just allow a weak goal because he's making himself small. It'd be great to see Reese have success with him, because the natural ability is there.

The big concerns are confidence, communication and work ethic. The confidence is obvious, the communication I've mentioned earlier(page 3 or so) and the work ethic is something that's been whispered about.

But if Reese can get this kid back to form, he could b a helluva pick up
- Jsaquella

Yeah I read that article too, that's a crazy statement. One would have to assume that the onus is on the CBJ organization to have a strong line of communication especially about stuff like that.

at least we wont see you suckers in the playoffs... thank god. cant take the drama of another series between the 2 of us haha

but in all seriousness, what is with guys like Giroux and Couts? both of those guys burned us in the playoffs and were looking like the next big things in Philly...

but it's obvious you guys need a top dman. asking guys like timmonen to play 20+ a game were fine a few years ago but today it's just too much to ask. same thing going on with the penguins while missing letang and martin... guys like oprik and niskanen have to play 18-25 minutes and it just isn't working out. wouldn't be surprised to see you target one of Florida's top defensemen or even go out west and look at yandle...

but hey look at the bright side, if you guys were going to be off... a 47 game season with one of the deepest drafts was probably the year to do it...
- SuperHenderson13

whats new with soupcan?

whats new with soupcan?
- flyerfan28

if by soupcan you mean Crosby, just fine. had a couple of dental procedures and should be back for the last regular season games and then the playoffs.

no news is good news.

is it time for the stick a fork in them comments? or posting some funny gifs of forks sticking in players a$ses

is it time for the stick a fork in them comments? or posting some funny gifs of forks sticking in players a$ses
- mydoglicks

Tin foil hats notwithstanding, there's no way to fix it without someone someday telling the truth. And no one ever has on any of the so-called fixes of the past. Just because the team you want to win a random draw doesn't, or a team you hate does, doesn't mean it's fixed. There are too many people who would have to know. And we know from every stupid scandal out there that if someone knows, eventually we all do.
- bodiva88

Bah, you and your logic. Let me hold onto my irrational belief

I'm still trying to figure out how the organization views Coots. Apparently, the rest of the league views as more then a 4th line center, yet the Flyers won't deal him to acquire assets to improve the team. His ice time has actually gone down as the season gets near the end.

I just don't understand how you can appraise the offensive ability of him, if you have him with bottom 3 forwards pretty much all the time (minus 2 PP time). I believe he could slide very well behind G in the center depth, or is he nothing more then the 4th line center, which he has been relegated to this year? I find his situation very perplexing.

I'm still trying to figure out how the organization views Coots. Apparently, the rest of the league views as more then a 4th line center, yet the Flyers won't deal him to acquire assets to improve the team. His ice time has actually gone down as the season gets near the end.

I just don't understand how you can appraise the offensive ability of him, if you have him with bottom 3 forwards pretty much all the time (minus 2 PP time). I believe he could slide very well behind G in the center depth, or is he nothing more then the 4th line center, which he has been relegated to this year? I find his situation very perplexing.
- ravishingone

Potential should be around a second line center who can play a very good two way game. Still very young and i'm sure teams value him less so they can get him cheaper.

Potential should be around a second line center who can play a very good two way game. Still very young and i'm sure teams value him less so they can get him cheaper.
- stveshdy

This is what I don't understand, if his potential is what you wrote. Why isn't he put in that type of role? Is B. Schenn playing at that much of a higher level? Can they really expect his offensive game to develop when over the last two year his winger have pretty consisted of Talbot, Rinaldo, Shelley, Hall, and Rosewell. If you have your center playing with those guys, does the organization think he has offensive skill? I'm not so sure.

This is what I don't understand, if his potential is what you wrote. Why isn't he put in that type of role? Is B. Schenn playing at that much of a higher level? Can they really expect his offensive game to develop when over the last two year his winger have pretty consisted of Talbot, Rinaldo, Shelley, Hall, and Rosewell. If you have your center playing with those guys, does the organization think he has offensive skill? I'm not so sure.
- ravishingone

The Flyers could move Schenn to wing and have Couturier play center on the second line at some point. Couturier is still a very raw player. Unlike Schenn Couturier didn't have any experience playing at the AHL level. Right now they are taking their time with him and giving him a role with less pressure. However, I do think they need to move him up with better linemates next season.

- Flyskippy

I knew I could count on you

I'm still trying to figure out how the organization views Coots. Apparently, the rest of the league views as more then a 4th line center, yet the Flyers won't deal him to acquire assets to improve the team. His ice time has actually gone down as the season gets near the end.

I just don't understand how you can appraise the offensive ability of him, if you have him with bottom 3 forwards pretty much all the time (minus 2 PP time). I believe he could slide very well behind G in the center depth, or is he nothing more then the 4th line center, which he has been relegated to this year? I find his situation very perplexing.
- ravishingone

If the rest of the leagues teams view him as a 4th line center, why is he always the name mentioned when they call for trades?

I wish he was used better. Still one of my bigger gripes with Laviolette

Leddy, voynov, shattenkirk, wiercoch. I am a big fan of hartnell but if teams have an interest I would be gauging it to try and pry one of these RFA's in a deal. Hartnell has run hot and cold for years and with the steps Simmonds has made this year he is looking more and more replaceable

If the rest of the leagues teams view him as a 4th line center, why is he always the name mentioned when they call for trades?

I wish he was used better. Still one of my bigger gripes with Laviolette
- Jsaquella

To me, it is just such a mystery. Even when they change the line combinations, he is still buried. They play him in a 4th line role, teams call about him, yet they don't trade him. Very strange.

To me, it is just such a mystery. Even when they change the line combinations, he is still buried. They play him in a 4th line role, teams call about him, yet they don't trade him. Very strange.
- ravishingone

they could just think that's all he's ready for right now. he isn't even 21 years old yet

they could just think that's all he's ready for right now. he isn't even 21 years old yet
- FlyerMike18

Possible, but what exactly would he not be ready for? Playing with better wingers?

Possible, but what exactly would he not be ready for? Playing with better wingers?
- ravishingone

He's playing with lesser winger but also going against lesser d pairings. I just think its baby steps with him. His biggest Knocks are speed and strength. If I'm the flyers I want him in the gym for a solid 3 months this summer don't even touch the ice

Leddy, voynov, shattenkirk, wiercoch. I am a big fan of hartnell but if teams have an interest I would be gauging it to try and pry one of these RFA's in a deal. Hartnell has run hot and cold for years and with the steps Simmonds has made this year he is looking more and more replaceable
- Just5

The problem is avoiding overpaying. People are talking about Couturier for Shattenkirk, and there's no way I'd do that.

The problem is avoiding overpaying. People are talking about Couturier for Shattenkirk, and there's no way I'd do that.
- Jsaquella

if we believe that couts will exceed schenn as a better overall player, then schenn is the guy who is a better match as a pmt for shattenkirk. schenn has more polish right now in some areas, but he's more physically mature.

i think the growth we expect from schenn in his overall game seems to be somewhat underrated, but i do think that couts will be the better player in 2-3 yrs. couts needs to work on his skating, particularly his 1st couple of strides and his balance, along w/ some overall strength training. more than anything though, he just has to grow into his body and we can only push that so much.

It's just discouraging to see that kind of collapse after 4 wins. You get a combined situation where the team really leaves Bryzgalov hung out to dry on the first two goals, then the 3rd is a total cluster(frank). Finally the last one was just a seeming sign of abject surrender.

Not happy with the effort from goal on out today. Winnipeg's been losing games and were ripe. The Flyers decided they could show up and play 20 minutes.
- Jsaquella

Agreed. The 3rd goal I cant believe the Flyers D just let the Jets player just walk out in front of the net and around Bryz. That 4th goal was weak goal too but at that point of the game was done anyways

The Flyers could move Schenn to wing and have Couturier play center on the second line at some point. Couturier is still a very raw player. Unlike Schenn Couturier didn't have any experience playing at the AHL level. Right now they are taking their time with him and giving him a role with less pressure. However, I do think they need to move him up with better linemates next season.
- stveshdy

I'd like to keep Schenn over Coots. Schenn is very talented and so farhas shown more upside in terms of offense. The thing about Coots is he is a skilled defensive forward who may be good offensively as well but we also got a guy named Laughton who plays the same game as Coots. I'd rather move Laughton before Coots but Coots is the NHL ready player and would have the biggest value

I'd like to keep Schenn over Coots. Schenn is very talented and so farhas shown more upside in terms of offense. The thing about Coots is he is a skilled defensive forward who may be good offensively as well but we also got a guy named Laughton who plays the same game as Coots. I'd rather move Laughton before Coots but Coots is the NHL ready player and would have the biggest value
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

Schenn looks like the second coming of Matt stajan with more of a physical game. B/w schenn, coots, Laughton you'd think over the next year their going to trade one for some help elsewhere.

I'd like to see couts take some initiative this summer and work on getting stronger. The onus at this point is on him if he wants to take his game to the next level. Stamkos upped his game with the Roberts program, if he doesn't make a bigger step in his strength this summer it would be disappointing

Possible, but what exactly would he not be ready for? Playing with better wingers?
- ravishingone

yea, pretty much. that and being put in better situations to score goals (against weak defensive opponents, more offensive zone starts, more pp time). if he's getting those minutes that means someone else is not. maybe they feel that right now he's not ready to capitalize in those situations, so it wouldn't really be doing any good to trot him out there

obviously that approach is only gonna fly for so long, but i'm not so sure i'd say it's a grave error at this point