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CaptainRivet
Buffalo Sabres
Location: on Bored, NY
Joined: 12.26.2008

Apr 4 @ 4:04 PM ET
10 pts in 38 games played is kind of wierd for how much of a following he has.
- JVince11

Erik Karlsson put up 10pts in 45 games in the SEL. Look where he is now
hubie
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt Ellis is my patronus, NY
Joined: 06.28.2011

Apr 4 @ 4:05 PM ET
If you can somehow get Florida, Tampa, Colorado, or Cargary to give up a top 3 pick, then I want you as GM right now. I just don't think teams give those up. Maybe Calgary because it seems they're always doing that sort of thing, but the asking price would be phenomenal.
- Zschalberg


Calgary can be fleeced happens every year
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Apr 4 @ 4:06 PM ET
Eastern Scout mock draft:
http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=663752

Western Scout mock draft:
http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=663743

- JVince11


If we trade Miller, Vanek, Ott and Stafford...
Which all seems very possible to me...
We could end up with five 1sts and five 2nds in this draft
That'll restock the cupboards really quick
JVince11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK
Joined: 07.13.2011

Apr 4 @ 4:07 PM ET
In NHL 13 GM I'm in year 5 - lines are:

Shinkaruk (88 ov.) - Hodgson (87 ov.) - Ennis (86 ov.)
Andrei Anisimov (84 ov.) - Grigo (80 ov.) - Sam Reinhart (81 ov.)
Heatley (84 ov.) - Girgensons (84 ov.) - Gerbe (83 ov.)
Ott (81 ov.) - Stoll (80 ov.) - Tropp (83 ov.)

Myers (89 ov.) - Letang (91 ov.)
Ehrhoff (85 ov.) - Kulikov (85 ov.)
Leo (82 ov.) - Sekera (82 ov.)

Chris Tai (92 ov.)
Enroth (82 ov.)

Dynasty!

- LetsGoBuffalo75


NICE...

Eriksson (88) - Grigorenko (86) - Armia (87)
Toffoli (84) - Girgensons (85) - Foligno (84)
Broedkker (82) - Hodgson (85) - Stewart (84)
Hayes (80) - Smithson (80) - Kaleta (82)

Myers - McNabb
Hjalmarsson - O'Bryne
F. Reed - Sustr (created both of these guys just the other night)

Marco Belchoir (from Goon)
Bishop

that is mine I think.... something doesn't look right though..
Zschalberg
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Amherst, NY
Joined: 06.29.2011

Apr 4 @ 4:07 PM ET
Duclair-Grigorenko-Erne. By their powers combined, we are the Buffalo Remparts!
qcstudios
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Amherst , NY
Joined: 07.02.2012

Apr 4 @ 4:08 PM ET
Calgary can be fleeced happens every year
- hubie


i really would prefer Drouin over Mackinnon or Jones. We have depth coming up the middle so the need for ANOTHER center isnt necessary. we have some young defense coming up (McNabb, Pysyk) and im sure we make a few roster moves to get some vet presence in the off-season to round it out, so that true scoring winger that can eventually play with grigorenko and armia seems like a logical decision.
CaptainRivet
Buffalo Sabres
Location: on Bored, NY
Joined: 12.26.2008

Apr 4 @ 4:08 PM ET
Yeah, here's what I think. While it's unlikely any of us has a clue about what's inside Darcy's head, and things like the salary cap, NTCs/NMCs, and the declining economy's impact on future revenues make it nearly impossible to trade anyone of any significance, it's not inconceivable that the Sabres could make a mid-season move.

Vanek, Roy, Miller, Pommer are probably not on the block since they represent the young core of this team and are all locked up long-term. We all know Vanek's contract is insane, but given the length and amount of the others, it seems unlikely to me there's a better deal out there. Remember Larry Quinn is a numbers guy, and 5 mil 6 years from now will be looking pretty good. Roy's deal is an especially favorable one for the club. You might even be able to throw Goose into this category b/c his value to the Sabres is high given his hustle and toughness.

Max, Kotalik, and Connolly are popular choices for a change of venue, but their UFA status would mean they'd need to go to a contender for the receiving team to be willing to assume the risk. That said, what's the likelihood of a contender sending the Sabres something worthy of a blockbuster? That's not even taking into account Max sucking for the last 2 years, Kotalik getting a reputation of being lazy, and (Tin) Connolly being more fragile than the leg lamp in A Christmas Story. This, coming from the guy who actually owns a Connolly jersey.

As far as young talent at forward goes, Stafford, MacArthur, Paille are the only roster players in that category. They're all tradable, but not enough to bring in an impact player. To me, the Sabres would need to include one of Mancari, Gerbe, or Kennedy to get another team interested. Possible, though Gerbe seems like he's got a future here.

Lastly, if they're really trying to fix the recent injury problem at defense, they're not going to trade any defensemen. Even still, it's more likely they'll do what they did last year and bring in a veteran like Nolan Pratt to temporarily fill the gap until Weber and Sekera are healthy again (a few weeks?). I haven't looked to see who like that is available, but they found someone last year and could probably do it again.

We Sabres fans have gotten used to the fact that Darcy rarely makes any moves. In fact, who really does anymore? I'd love to be wrong, but not at the expense of 26 / 9 / 30 / 29. You can have Peters. Twice.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Apr 4 @ 4:09 PM ET
Erik Karlsson put up 10pts in 45 games in the SEL. Look where he is now
- CaptainRivet


It's interesting to me how the Euro leagues seem to be more defensive (based on lower scoring), even w bigger ice, but then those players often come over and flourish offensively
Zschalberg
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Amherst, NY
Joined: 06.29.2011

Apr 4 @ 4:09 PM ET
Calgary can be fleeced happens every year
- hubie


What would it take? Miller? He might have that on his 8 team list. I don't think Vanek gets you that without more going with him, especially with 1 year left.

hubie
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt Ellis is my patronus, NY
Joined: 06.28.2011

Apr 4 @ 4:10 PM ET
i really would prefer Drouin over Mackinnon or Jones. We have depth coming up the middle so the need for ANOTHER center isnt necessary. we have some young defense coming up (McNabb, Pysyk) and im sure we make a few roster moves to get some vet presence in the off-season to round it out, so that true scoring winger that can eventually play with grigorenko and armia seems like a logical decision.
- qcstudios


I agree, my perfect scenario is Drouin then monahan/lindhom
JVince11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK
Joined: 07.13.2011

Apr 4 @ 4:10 PM ET
Erik Karlsson put up 10pts in 45 games in the SEL. Look where he is now
- CaptainRivet

didn't know that.... cool.
hubie
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt Ellis is my patronus, NY
Joined: 06.28.2011

Apr 4 @ 4:12 PM ET
What would it take? Miller? He might have that on his 8 team list. I don't think Vanek gets you that without more going with him, especially with 1 year left.
- Zschalberg


Calgary would be lets Say Ennis Sekerra + 2 picks

MIller will go to a real team

COlorado could make a run at a few guys
LetsGoBuffalo75
Buffalo Sabres
Location: He is all. He is eternal. He is love. He is life. He is Rob Ford., NY
Joined: 07.07.2012

Apr 4 @ 4:13 PM ET
NICE...

Eriksson (88) - Grigorenko (86) - Armia (87)
Toffoli (84) - Girgensons (85) - Foligno (84)
Broedkker (82) - Hodgson (85) - Stewart (84)
Hayes (80) - Smithson (80) - Kaleta (82)

Myers - McNabb
Hjalmarsson - O'Bryne
F. Reed - Sustr (created both of these guys just the other night)

Marco Belchoir (from Goon)
Bishop

that is mine I think.... something doesn't look right though..

- JVince11

Nice roster . The only guy I had to create was Girgensons, because I started before roster updates. I'm actually in a rebuild, I traded away Vanek, Pommer, Jeff Carter, Stafford, Miller, etc. in the last 2 years for the picks. That Chris Tai I got is ridiculous... 21 years old, 92 overall, 5 stars... Jumped from 65 to 81 to 92 in offseasons.
My 2nd line sucks because everyone is developing slowly
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Apr 4 @ 4:13 PM ET
Drouin: Could be a patrick kane clone?
- Smittyx36


Homer has said Sabres mgmt sees Ennis as another "pat kane"
Sounds a little crazy, but I do like how ennis has started his career (better #s than Parise), and seems to be getting better every year
MCGUIZZY
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bay Area, CA
Joined: 06.20.2012

Apr 4 @ 4:14 PM ET
i really would prefer Drouin over Mackinnon or Jones. We have depth coming up the middle so the need for ANOTHER center isnt necessary. we have some young defense coming up (McNabb, Pysyk) and im sure we make a few roster moves to get some vet presence in the off-season to round it out, so that true scoring winger that can eventually play with grigorenko and armia seems like a logical decision.
- qcstudios



If you have a shot at Mackinnen I think you take it regardless of our depth at that position. He would immediately rank ahead of ALL of our prospects. Ennis, Hodgson, Mackinnen can all play wing. Draft best available and worry about the conflicts later. We dont have anyone like him in our system
toddkac
Joined: 11.21.2009

Apr 4 @ 4:15 PM ET
10 pts in 38 games played is kind of wierd for how much of a following he has.
- JVince11

there is no second assist in European hockey.
hubie
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt Ellis is my patronus, NY
Joined: 06.28.2011

Apr 4 @ 4:15 PM ET
If you have a shot at Mackinnen I think you take it regardless of our depth at that position. He would immediately rank ahead of ALL of our prospects. Ennis, Hodgson, Mackinnen can all play wing. Draft best available and worry about the conflicts later. We dont have anyone like him in our system
- MCGUIZZY


I agree but i like the high side of droins scoring
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Apr 4 @ 4:18 PM ET
wouldnt last past 10
- hubie


Him signing that deal to stay in the KHL is going to scare a lot of teams
Grigorenko dropped to us partly bc of those rumors and he was playing in N.America w no KHL deal...
I have no idea how far Nichuskin will drop,
But he def will drop
I'd even be ok w us using our second 1st on him
He should be picked 5th at the latest... ISS has him ranked 2nd
hubie
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt Ellis is my patronus, NY
Joined: 06.28.2011

Apr 4 @ 4:19 PM ET
Him signing that deal to stay in the KHL is going to scare a lot of teams
Grigorenko dropped to us partly bc of those rumors and he was playing in N.America w no KHL deal...
I have no idea how far Nichuskin will drop,
But he def will drop
I'd even be ok w us using our second 1st on him
He should be picked 5th at the latest... ISS has him ranked 2nd

- jdfitz77


I just see someone taking him before our second is all
Zschalberg
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Amherst, NY
Joined: 06.29.2011

Apr 4 @ 4:19 PM ET
Calgary would be lets Say Ennis Sekerra + 2 picks

MIller will go to a real team

COlorado could make a run at a few guys

- hubie


Ennis+1st+2nd for Calgary 1st+5th? It works for me but seems a tad low, who knows.

Miller can go anywhere but Detroit. I don't want him in our division.
MCGUIZZY
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bay Area, CA
Joined: 06.20.2012

Apr 4 @ 4:20 PM ET
I agree but i like the high side of droins scoring
- hubie



I see Mackinnen as that spark plug type player Buffalo has been without for a long time. Nothing against Drouin who I would be very happy with. I just see Mackinnen as a better all around run and gun type player that buffalo does not have.
hubie
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt Ellis is my patronus, NY
Joined: 06.28.2011

Apr 4 @ 4:22 PM ET
I see Mackinnen as that spark plug type player Buffalo has been without for a long time. Nothing against Drouin who I would be very happy with. I just see Mackinnen as a better all around run and gun type player that buffalo does not have.
- MCGUIZZY


I agree
to me its
jordan vs bird type love them both cant go wrong
Carubba-Kaleta
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.27.2013

Apr 4 @ 4:22 PM ET
If we trade Miller, Vanek, Ott and Stafford...
Which all seems very possible to me...
We could end up with five 1sts and five 2nds in this draft
That'll restock the cupboards really quick

- jdfitz77

Really wish that happened yesterday. How pissed will everyone be if we win more than half our remaining games and finish 10th in the EC. I sure hope they can do one thing right cause losing out on a top 3 pick could really eff up our future.
Zschalberg
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Amherst, NY
Joined: 06.29.2011

Apr 4 @ 4:23 PM ET
Him signing that deal to stay in the KHL is going to scare a lot of teams
Grigorenko dropped to us partly bc of those rumors and he was playing in N.America w no KHL deal...
I have no idea how far Nichuskin will drop,
But he def will drop
I'd even be ok w us using our second 1st on him
He should be picked 5th at the latest... ISS has him ranked 2nd

- jdfitz77


ISS is unreliable IMO. They have Erne 26 and Nichushkin 2 and Lazar 11. Every other ranking I've seen has Erne top 15, Lazar around 20 and Nichushkin 4-6.
metzeric
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 07.06.2006

Apr 4 @ 4:23 PM ET
in pominville's press conference he said he has played defense when on 5 on 5 have any of you remember that?
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