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Taynos
St Louis Blues
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Joined: 04.04.2013

Apr 4 @ 11:53 AM ET
Wow. You signed up just to share this brilliant observation?
- NewToHockey


No, I signed up to remark that your blogger failed to mention Jay Bouwmeester was in the lineup tonight which slightly affects the projected lineup as he plays half the game. Then someone made a deuce joke about Russel.
EKB13
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.18.2009

Apr 4 @ 11:55 AM ET
No doubt Jay-Bo's contract allowed the Blues to trade for him relatively cheap. A mid-1st and some B level prospects. He is overpriced, that's for sure. But fills the gaping hole on the left side of the 1st pairing, logs 25m a game and has never really played with a good corp of puck movers on the blue line in his career. He doesn't need to be the best defenseman on the team. Tonight will be a tough test in a tough barn. Should be a playoff style hockey.
- Taynos


This doesn't touch on the point I brought up. I posted about Boumeester's cap hit impacting the RFA's the Blues will have to re-sign this summer.
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Apr 4 @ 11:56 AM ET
Hey, you gave me the name "Crankypants," so in turn I can be as "picky" as I want to be about things you post.


- EKolb13



Alright, I've give you that one.
eburgio
Location: SF, CA
Joined: 07.18.2011

Apr 4 @ 11:56 AM ET
I would be naive to think that the PRESENT Patrick Kane could not get himself a balnk check back home to Buffalo...
....and ditto to Tazer and Winnipeg.

This was part of his argument...but I have to think based on Ryan Getszlaf's deal these guys can and will ask 12 mil in three years....

- wiz1901


I don't know. You could be right, but there's also a comparable from Sidney Crosby to Getzlaf. Do you really think Getz is worth 500k less than Crosby? Not a chance.

I think teams like Anaheim have to over pay to keep guys like Getz/Perry, whereas Pittsburgh can get a little bit of a hometown discount for guys like Malkin and Crosby, because they want to play in Pittsburgh.

We also don't know what the cap looks like in 3 years. That said, I can easily see Toews and Kane both clipping at 9M. I also think there's a cap on salaries too. I don't think salaries can exceed a certain number...I wanna say 9.5M or something.
EKB13
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.18.2009

Apr 4 @ 11:57 AM ET
Alright, I've give you that one.
- DarthKane


You'll keep giving me "that one," and you'll like it.
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Apr 4 @ 11:59 AM ET
You'll keep giving me "that one," and you'll like it.
- EKolb13



Be careful, or you'll end up riding a unicorn with rainbows shooting out of your hands.

EKB13
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.18.2009

Apr 4 @ 12:01 PM ET
Be careful, or you'll end up riding a unicorn with rainbows shooting out of your hands.


- DarthKane


Yeah, that is kind of a threat, isn't it?

Well played sir.
philco28
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Mississauga, ON
Joined: 12.06.2011

Apr 4 @ 12:02 PM ET
No, I signed up to remark that your blogger failed to mention Jay Bouwmeester was in the lineup tonight which slightly affects the projected lineup as he plays half the game. Then someone made a deuce joke about Russel.
- Taynos


What happened to Russell ? Why'd he fall out of favor ?
z1990z
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: NW USA
Joined: 02.09.2012

Apr 4 @ 12:02 PM ET
I'd love to try:

Saad Toews Hossa
Frolik Shaw Kane
Stalberg Bolland Bickell
Kruger Handzues Bollig

I want to see Shaw get a shot at 2C since Bolland hasn't impressed and Frolik (former 20 G man) can keep up with Kaner.

Maybe even flip Bolland to 4C, Kruger to 3C and Handzues to 4W ???



Just my thoughts ...

- dciz99



I really like the line of Shaw Kane and Frolik. Frolik has really turned it on and he is not afraid to go get the puck. Add to that Shaw is fearless and has great on ice vision. Could be a damn good line. Kane is just a phenom!
Taynos
St Louis Blues
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Joined: 04.04.2013

Apr 4 @ 12:02 PM ET
Seriously, why is a guy from Mizzourah talking trash? Must have run out of mayonaisse sammiches and needs something to do...
- eburgio


I split time between Los Angeles and Chicago actually. Chicago is a fine town. I did not know St. Louis had an infatuation with mayonnaise, we do however enjoy typing out processed condiments with proper spelling.
rollpards19
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Where ever doesn't get me hit, IL
Joined: 05.03.2012

Apr 4 @ 12:02 PM ET
I don't know. You could be right, but there's also a comparable from Sidney Crosby to Getzlaf. Do you really think Getz is worth 500k less than Crosby? Not a chance.

I think teams like Anaheim have to over pay to keep guys like Getz/Perry, whereas Pittsburgh can get a little bit of a hometown discount for guys like Malkin and Crosby, because they want to play in Pittsburgh.

We also don't know what the cap looks like in 3 years. That said, I can easily see Toews and Kane both clipping at 9M. I also think there's a cap on salaries too. I don't think salaries can exceed a certain number...I wanna say 9.5M or something.

- eburgio

Check Ovie's salary and have a good laugh at how overpaid that guy is. What Malkin gets will probably be a good indicator of what Toews will ask for. Although I'm hoping they take a little hometown discount
droe411
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: ELK GROVE VILLAGE, IL
Joined: 09.30.2011

Apr 4 @ 12:04 PM ET
This doesn't touch on the point I brought up. I posted about Boumeester's cap hit impacting the RFA's the Blues will have to re-sign this summer.
- EKolb13



Well the Blues have a metric butt ton of cap space. The question is if they will spend to the limit?
wiz1901
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: DraftSite com, IL
Joined: 05.14.2008

Apr 4 @ 12:04 PM ET
Yeah guy. Taking a sh*t out in bumblef*ck illinois must be the highlight of your day. I'm honestly surprised you have running water out there.
- Taynos


I can honestly say all of my posts today were done while I was on the throne, in bumblefk, St. Pete, Florida....
fattybeef
Joined: 05.04.2010

Apr 4 @ 12:04 PM ET
I really like the line of Shaw Kane and Frolik. Frolik has really turned it on and he is not afraid to go get the puck. Add to that Shaw is fearless and has great on ice vision. Could be a damn good line. Kane is just a phenom!
- z1990z


Any line with Patrick Kane = good line
eburgio
Location: SF, CA
Joined: 07.18.2011

Apr 4 @ 12:05 PM ET
I split time between Los Angeles and Chicago actually. Chicago is a fine town. I did not know St. Louis had an infatuation with mayonnaise, we do however enjoy typing out processed condiments with proper spelling.
- Taynos


touche. i don't eat mayo, so the correct spelling is not at the front of my brain.
EKB13
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.18.2009

Apr 4 @ 12:05 PM ET
I don't know. You could be right, but there's also a comparable from Sidney Crosby to Getzlaf. Do you really think Getz is worth 500k less than Crosby? Not a chance.

I think teams like Anaheim have to over pay to keep guys like Getz/Perry, whereas Pittsburgh can get a little bit of a hometown discount for guys like Malkin and Crosby, because they want to play in Pittsburgh.

We also don't know what the cap looks like in 3 years. That said, I can easily see Toews and Kane both clipping at 9M. I also think there's a cap on salaries too. I don't think salaries can exceed a certain number...I wanna say 9.5M or something.

- eburgio


Ovechkin's cap hit is right around this mark. I think that's the highest cap number in the league.

Is there a cap on how high a cap number can be? Does anyone out there have an answer?
eburgio
Location: SF, CA
Joined: 07.18.2011

Apr 4 @ 12:06 PM ET
Check Ovie's salary and have a good laugh at how overpaid that guy is. What Malkin gets will probably be a good indicator of what Toews will ask for. Although I'm hoping they take a little hometown discount
- rollpards19


Oh, I don't argue on being overpaid. Overpaid has nothing to do with max cap hit. I thought when Ovie's deal was signed they had to work the numbers to stay below a certain cap figure...something like 9.7M or something.

Malkin and Crosby should be comparable, though I don't think Crosby cares if Malkin makes more.
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Apr 4 @ 12:08 PM ET
I really like the line of Shaw Kane and Frolik. Frolik has really turned it on and he is not afraid to go get the puck. Add to that Shaw is fearless and has great on ice vision. Could be a damn good line. Kane is just a phenom!
- z1990z


On paper that line could play well, but in reality who knows how they would do together. Shaw and Kane played well together (with Sharp) while Shaw filled in for Bolland.

I have been impressed with with Frolik too. The emergence of Saad, Shaw, Kruger over the past couple years in addition to Frolik's improvement have given Stan some options when it comes to re-signing Stalberg. I'd like to see Stals back next year, but if not there are some viable options to replace him.
rollpards19
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Where ever doesn't get me hit, IL
Joined: 05.03.2012

Apr 4 @ 12:09 PM ET
Oh, I don't argue on being overpaid. Overpaid has nothing to do with max cap hit. I thought when Ovie's deal was signed they had to work the numbers to stay below a certain cap figure...something like 9.7M or something.

Malkin and Crosby should be comparable, though I don't think Crosby cares if Malkin makes more.

- eburgio

I didn't know this, but you're probably right. The Pens have reportedly told Crosby Geno will make more in AAV because they can't do the lifetime Keith, Hossa, Kovalchuk contracts anymore
eburgio
Location: SF, CA
Joined: 07.18.2011

Apr 4 @ 12:09 PM ET
Ovechkin's cap hit is right around this mark. I think that's the highest cap number in the league.

Is there a cap on how high a cap number can be? Does anyone out there have an answer?

- EKolb13


Ahh...just found one article that says max allowable salary is $12M, but I'm looking for others.
wiz1901
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: DraftSite com, IL
Joined: 05.14.2008

Apr 4 @ 12:10 PM ET
Check Ovie's salary and have a good laugh at how overpaid that guy is. What Malkin gets will probably be a good indicator of what Toews will ask for. Although I'm hoping they take a little hometown discount
- rollpards19


Do you mean what Geno Malkin gets IN HIS NEW DEAL in 2014-15?

After the Penquins decides who goes, Letang or Geno?

You think Malkin is gonna stay at the 8.7 million salary, only 500,000 less than Getzlaf's annual salary?????



eburgio
Location: SF, CA
Joined: 07.18.2011

Apr 4 @ 12:11 PM ET
I didn't know this, but you're probably right. The Pens have reportedly told Crosby Geno will make more in AAV because they can't do the lifetime Keith, Hossa, Kovalchuk contracts anymore
- rollpards19


Hopefully by the time that Kaner and Toews become UFA's, they will have seen what two guys taking up too much of the cap space can do to a team (Anaheim).

Let's not forget those guys got a HUGE bump in their second contracts too. The Malkin comparison will probably be accurate
dciz99
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Joliet, IL
Joined: 01.28.2012

Apr 4 @ 12:12 PM ET
On paper that line could play well, but in reality who knows how they would do together. Shaw and Kane played well together (with Sharp) while Shaw filled in for Bolland.

I have been impressed with with Frolik too. The emergence of Saad, Shaw, Kruger over the past couple years in addition to Frolik's improvement have given Stan some options when it comes to re-signing Stalberg. I'd like to see Stals back next year, but if not there are some viable options to replace him.

- DarthKane


I am just sooooo tired of watching #36 on that #2 line and think Shaw and Fro could really gel with Kaner til Sharp returns
EKB13
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.18.2009

Apr 4 @ 12:12 PM ET
Do you mean what Geno Malkin gets IN HIS NEW DEAL in 2014-15?

After the Penquins decides who goes, Letang or Geno?

You think Malkin is gonna stay at the 8.7 million salary, only 500,000 less than Getzlaf's annual salary?????

- wiz1901


It will be interesting to see how that plays out.
mrpaulish
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Itasca, IL
Joined: 01.18.2010

Apr 4 @ 12:12 PM ET
I am just sooooo tired of watching #36 on that #2 line and think Shaw and Fro could really gel with Kaner til Sharp returns
- dciz99


Me too. Sick of 36
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