Fair enough... I think its unfair to speculate Gillis screwed up he has had little choice up to right now but to hold onto him... If we really wanted him at all I imagine we would have done the deal today.... I really think the Leafs were holding out for Vancouver to retain some of the contract......

Draft time will be intersting but Hackett to Buffalo (Makes Miller trade a reality); Smith could be on the market, and tampa Picked up their goalie today.... will NYI really hold both Dipietro and Luongo at the same time? The options might be buy out or retain salary

On the other hand maybe they get lucky
- jribout

Tampa got their goalie today, again. They may be shopping yet again.

Tell me Florida didn't waste a season by not picking up Lu. Of course, if you are in a market with no fans and no pressure to win, I guess wasting a lock-out shortened season isn't the worst.

For 17 games. I haven't heard one hocky analyst say this is exactly what we need to get over the hump. No use female doging about it I think we will see in 12 regualr games and 5 playoff games Roy say goodbye.
- VANTEL

Roy and Kesler bro. If Kesler is back to form it's a whole new ball game.

I see it as an issue for Lu, but not for the Canucks. It's not currently stopping them from competing. Who knows what the future holds, but they'll deal with it in due time. If they have to waive him in the fall because there's no takers, then they waive him. What's the big deal?
- LeftCoaster

Can they waive him? Does he have a NTC or NMC?

Define free
- Canada Cup

Yup, might not be as forgone a conclusion as one would think.

Stop being so (frank)ing negative. He's the third best scorer on your team.
- Canada Cup

Vintage could be our third best scorer

Can they waive him? Does he have a NTC or NMC?
- Jeffmt

A few weird clauses.

It was a bad contract when it was signed. Great player, but bad contract. There were a ton of people calling it a mistake at the time for the same reason that's turned it into a problem.
- Jeffmt

So Zetterberg has a bad contract? Duncan Keith has a bad contract? Etc etc? They were good contract under the old rules.

What would make the trade significant in ur eyes?

Second round exit?
Third?
Cup?

What would it take for you to submit to the mighty Gillis.
- Whiskey-Tango

Second

Can they waive him? Does he have a NTC or NMC?
- Jeffmt

NTC

A few weird clauses.
- golfingsince

He can be waived...

Correct. I see that likely being applied to Ballard certainly, and maybe booth. Could buy out them both, free up $3m more cap than luo, and still spend less money overall.
- lumlums

They have to use both buyouts in the offseason. Probably for two of Ballard, Hamhuis, or Booth.

Then it may come to a buy out. We have two free get out of jail cards to play. Again, who knows?
- LeftCoaster

Not that it matters to us but if you were a billionaire and your GM came to you asnd said I need 24 mil to get rid of this guy ,what would you think of your GM ?

Tampa got their goalie today, again. They may be shopping yet again.

Tell me Florida didn't waste a season by not picking up Lu. Of course, if you are in a market with no fans and no pressure to win, I guess wasting a lock-out shortened season isn't the worst.
- micah555

Flyers reportedly tried to trade for Bishop too, they're in the market as well.

Second
- VANTEL

Leafs-Nucks final. Louongo chokes.

Not that it matters to us but if you were a billionaire and your GM came to you asnd said I need 24 mil to get rid of this guy ,what would you think of your GM ?
- VANTEL

I'm not defending Gillis, it's his mess to clean up, and for the record I'd fire him. But sometimes in business you've gotta write things off. It happens.

Lu blows, the only thing that's worse than his abililty is his contract which "sucks" and he has negative value. Roy also was a horrible, horrible pickup and arguably the stupidest trade of the week, if not century. I was really hoping that Henrik, Daniel, Kesler, Roy, Booth, Raymond, Higgins, Edler and Ballard would all get traded today for the best offers Gillis could get. Was also hoping that AV and the entire coaching staff would be relieved of their duties, Hodgson would be re-acquired, and Gillis would load up on some decent talent for once that can help this team 3 years down the road.

Extremely disappointed and shocked.

They have to use both buyouts in the offseason. Probably for two of Ballard, Hamhuis, or Booth.
- Jeffmt

Haha Hamhuis

Sell edler, booth, and Ballard. That's 13 million in salary right there.

I'm not defending Gillis, it's his mess to clean up, and for the record I'd fire him. But sometimes in business you've gotta write things off. It happens.
- LeftCoaster

Assuming a poor result. There's a long way to go between now and next season.

Flyers reportedly tried to trade for Bishop too, they're in the market as well.
- LeftCoaster

They dont have the cap space....

Leafs-Nucks final. Louongo gets the runs.
- Leafland

Fixed.

They dont have the cap space....
- jribout

... as stands.

They have to use both buyouts in the offseason. Probably for two of Ballard, Hamhuis, or Booth.
- Jeffmt

Kidding, right?

Guy's their best defenseman.

... as stands.
- golfingsince

even with a bryz and Briere 6.5 million buyout...

Assuming a poor result. There's a long way to go between now and next season.
- golfingsince

Agreed.