Nucker101
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Location: Vancouver, BC Joined: 09.26.2010
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Now wasn't the time to trade him despite what the media thinks. With Lack injured it made little sense. The lockout / shortened season exacerbated the situation. This team is better off having him on the bench in case of injury / letdown than they are moving him for a piddling return. - golfingsince
I agree with this as long as his trade value doesn't decrease even more by the draft. And let's be honest, with players like Miller and Hiler potentially available plus pending UFA's like Backstrom that is a strong possibility. I also expect LA to move Bernier next summer(I'm assuming he'll want to start or at least go somewhere as the 50/50 guy). |
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HB77
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Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid Joined: 02.20.2007
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taylor hall is a beast. so good.
that is all.. |
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Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Vancouver, BC Joined: 09.26.2010
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taylor hall is a beast. so good.
that is all.. - hugefemale dog77
Que the Esplen Taylor Hall troll blog tomorrow... |
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Muskoka88
Detroit Red Wings |
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Location: Toronto, ON Joined: 02.14.2012
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Que the Esplen Taylor Hall troll blog tomorrow... - Nucker101
Tomorrow? give it a few hours.) |
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golfingsince
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Location: This message is Marwood approved! Joined: 11.30.2011
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I agree with this as long as his trade value doesn't decrease even more by the draft. And let's be honest, with players like Miller and Hiler potentially available plus pending UFA's like Backstrom that is a strong possibility. I also expect LA to move Bernier next summer(I'm assuming he'll want to start or at least go somewhere as the 50/50 guy). - Nucker101
I doubt it. There are many teams with goaltending questions and the teams out there have played less than half a season so far. The landscape of teams with possible interest sure seems to be different than when the season began. I think Hiller stays in Anaheim. |
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Muskoka88
Detroit Red Wings |
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Location: Toronto, ON Joined: 02.14.2012
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Lou really wants out but acknowledges that the contract is preventing it from happening. He said he wishes he could tear it up. Vancouver is going to have to end up setting for basically nothing to get rid of that albatross, because his relationship with the team and fans is shot at this point.
Better win the cup this year cuz next years cap is screwed! |
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HB77
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid Joined: 02.20.2007
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Que the Esplen Taylor Hall troll blog tomorrow... - Nucker101
"hemsky's been the best player on the oilers as far as ive seen"
maybe he was on meth.... |
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The max Vancouver will get for lu would be a 2nd round pick IMO. Look at all the other options this summer. Bernier, Backstrom, Smith, Thomas (might come back), Miller, Hiller, Emery (i think).
IF Ben bishop got a 4th and a top 6 prospect in Connacher what does that say about Lu and his value. |
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Jeropotato
Season Ticket Holder Edmonton Oilers |
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Joined: 01.03.2013
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Lou really wants out but acknowledges that the contract is preventing it from happening. He said he wishes he could tear it up. Vancouver is going to have to end up setting for basically nothing to get rid of that albatross, because his relationship with the team and fans is shot at this point.
Better win the cup this year cuz next years cap is screwed! - Muskoka88
I wonder if the league, the board of governors and the NHL could make an amendment to the CBA? I think it would be fair to allow teams and players to mutually part ways. If Lou seriously wanted out the league has an obligation to support him. Would that be a had thing? Of course it would have to be 100% mutual, with no buy out moneys going to the player. |
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golfingsince
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Location: This message is Marwood approved! Joined: 11.30.2011
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The max Vancouver will get for lu would be a 2nd round pick IMO. Look at all the other options this summer. Bernier, Backstrom, Smith, Thomas (might come back), Miller, Hiller, Emery (i think).
IF Ben bishop got a 4th and a top 6 prospect in Connacher what does that say about Lu and his value. - Bluechip23
There are also many teams that will be looking at goaltending help to various degrees next season.
In less than a year Yzerman has traded 2 2nds, a 3rd and a 4th not to mention Connacher for 2 goalies with a combined 41 NHL wins. |
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Viktory
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Location: Hamilton, ON Joined: 08.12.2011
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Lou really wants out but acknowledges that the contract is preventing it from happening. He said he wishes he could tear it up. Vancouver is going to have to end up setting for basically nothing to get rid of that albatross, because his relationship with the team and fans is shot at this point.
Better win the cup this year cuz next years cap is screwed! - Muskoka88
I keep saying this, and if the Leafs were to trade with the Canucks, they'd essentially take Lou and Booth to save the Canucks some Cap. In exchange for good assets so the team can take the next step in their rebuild, and the Canucks an retool on the fly. |
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Viktory
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Location: Hamilton, ON Joined: 08.12.2011
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There are also many teams that will be looking at goaltending help to various degrees next season.
In less than a year Yzerman has traded 2 2nds, a 3rd and a 4th not to mention Connacher for 2 goalies with a combined 41 NHL wins. - golfingsince
That list is incredibly (frank)ing short. |
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golfingsince
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Location: This message is Marwood approved! Joined: 11.30.2011
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I keep saying this, and if the Leafs were to trade with the Canucks, they'd essentially take Lou and Booth to save the Canucks some Cap. In exchange for good assets so the team can take the next step in their rebuild, and the Canucks an retool on the fly. - Viktory
Yes, according to you the Canucks will trade Bieksa, Lu, Kassian and a 1st for Grabovski and Liles.
Glad to see some of the good poop is making it to Ontario. |
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golfingsince
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Location: This message is Marwood approved! Joined: 11.30.2011
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That list is incredibly (frank)ing short. - Viktory
Teams looking for goaltending help isn't. Teams for Lu is. |
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Muskoka88
Detroit Red Wings |
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Location: Toronto, ON Joined: 02.14.2012
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I wonder if the league, the board of governors and the NHL could make an amendment to the CBA? I think it would be fair to allow teams and players to mutually part ways. If Lou seriously wanted out the league has an obligation to support him. Would that be a had thing? Of course it would have to be 100% mutual, with no buy out moneys going to the player. - Jeropotato
Why not? Done and DONE! There has to be a loop hole somewhere |
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Viktory
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Location: Hamilton, ON Joined: 08.12.2011
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Yes, according to you the Canucks will trade Bieksa, Lu, Kassian and a 1st for Grabovski and Liles.
Glad to see some of the good poop is making it to Ontario. - golfingsince
I grow it myself.
I'm mostly trolling, realistically it'd only be for Bieksa |
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Muskoka88
Detroit Red Wings |
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Location: Toronto, ON Joined: 02.14.2012
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I keep saying this, and if the Leafs were to trade with the Canucks, they'd essentially take Lou and Booth to save the Canucks some Cap. In exchange for good assets so the team can take the next step in their rebuild, and the Canucks an retool on the fly. - Viktory
Yep! Wings are the first team in this new cap era to try and retool on the fly |
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13sundin13
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Vancouver, BC Joined: 06.29.2006
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Look to the flames to see how to treat one of your greatest players in team history. You give him what he deserves. Iggy put in great years, much like loungo so the flames bent a bit and received less so he could go where he wanted. Many other teams do the same thing for their special players. Loungo is one of those players for the Canucks and they owe it to him to move him to a team that will let him start. This shows poor taste by the organization to let it get to this point. He put in a lot of good years and did a lot for this team, and gillis basically took away a year of his career as a starter. Maybe this works out for them and Lou takes them to the cup or something but gillis has looked horrible in this situation showing no player loyalty. No he's arguing publicly about Lou turning down the leafs, zero class by Canucks management. |
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Look to the flames to see how to treat one of your greatest players in team history. You give him what he deserves. Iggy put in great years, much like loungo so the flames bent a bit and received less so he could go where he wanted. Many other teams do the same thing for their special players. Loungo is one of those players for the Canucks and they owe it to him to move him to a team that will let him start. This shows poor taste by the organization to let it get to this point. He put in a lot of good years and did a lot for this team, and gillis basically took away a year of his career as a starter. Maybe this works out for them and Lou takes them to the cup or something but gillis has looked horrible in this situation showing no player loyalty. No he's arguing publicly about Lou turning down the leafs, zero class by Canucks management. - 13sundin13
I couldn't disagree more. This isn't the warm & fuzzy club, it's a (frank)ing business. That kind of superficial loyalty to an outgoing asset is completely unnecessary & basically = franchise suicide.
Calgary (frank)ed themselves over BIG TIME in the name of making classy gestures that'll be forgotten faster than their fans can say "decade long re-build". They waited WAY too long to move Iginla, BLOWmeester & Kipper. The returns could have been massive if they weren't so GD delusional & pulled the trigger years sooner.
Bottom line - franchises owe players nothing more than what's written in the contract the two parties signed. Any other gestures at the expense of the franchise's best interests are inexcusable. |
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Muskoka88
Detroit Red Wings |
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Location: Toronto, ON Joined: 02.14.2012
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I couldn't disagree more. This isn't the warm & fuzzy club, it's a (frank)ing business. That kind of superficial loyalty to an outgoing asset is completely unnecessary & basically = franchise suicide.
Calgary (frank)ed themselves over BIG TIME in the name of making classy gestures that'll be forgotten faster than their fans can say "decade long re-build". They waited WAY too long to move Iginla, BLOWmeester & Kipper. The returns could have been massive if they weren't so GD delusional & pulled the trigger years sooner.
Bottom line - franchises owe players nothing more than what's written in the contract the two parties signed. Any other gestures at the expense of the franchise's best interests are inexcusable. - DrChristianTroy
Holy poop! Couldnt agree with you more! Funny how some ass clowns try and spin it the other way.....its just business! The best part is most people on this site have never played hockey or even hang with NHLers. |
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systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Real men always have to poo, ON Joined: 09.12.2007
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There are also many teams that will be looking at goaltending help to various degrees next season.
In less than a year Yzerman has traded 2 2nds, a 3rd and a 4th not to mention Connacher for 2 goalies with a combined 41 NHL wins. - golfingsince
Thats the key right there. How many will be looking for a goalie to the degree of 10 years, at the age of 34?
The reason Yzerman paid those prices was because the goalies were young and cheap, with no cap cuffing contracts. You think Yzerman isn't learning a lesson about these LT contracts having Vinny on his books? |
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systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Real men always have to poo, ON Joined: 09.12.2007
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I couldn't disagree more. This isn't the warm & fuzzy club, it's a (frank)ing business. That kind of superficial loyalty to an outgoing asset is completely unnecessary & basically = franchise suicide.
Calgary (frank)ed themselves over BIG TIME in the name of making classy gestures that'll be forgotten faster than their fans can say "decade long re-build". They waited WAY too long to move Iginla, BLOWmeester & Kipper. The returns could have been massive if they weren't so GD delusional & pulled the trigger years sooner.
Bottom line - franchises owe players nothing more than what's written in the contract the two parties signed. Any other gestures at the expense of the franchise's best interests are inexcusable. - DrChristianTroy
Sound familiar? |
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If the conversation went anything like that Gillis should have traded CS yesterday and put an end to this debacle.Its not the player........its the contract.Nothing changes at draft table or summertime.As Bobby loo states "my contract sucks". |
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Muskoka88
Detroit Red Wings |
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Location: Toronto, ON Joined: 02.14.2012
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Thats the key right there. How many will be looking for a goalie to the degree of 10 years, at the age of 34?
The reason Yzerman paid those prices was because the goalies were young and cheap, with no cap cuffing contracts. You think Yzerman isn't learning a lesson about these LT contracts having Vinny on his books? - systemtool
Check and......mate! |
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TML93
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Toronto, ON Joined: 01.09.2013
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Well according to the time line that TSN gave between the conversation between Nonis and Gillis.
Gillis called and offered Luongo for Scrivens and 2 2nd round picks and Nonis said No, then called a couple more times with different offers and the Leafs said no. I have not heard anything about Blacker and 5th anywhere.
I know Canuck fans hate MG, but he is just trying to get himself out of a jam "mind you he created it" the best way possible for the team. If I was a Canuck fan I would also want top dollar for Luongo he is still a very good goalie and would be an upgrade on most teams in the league, I feel bad for Bobby Lu. |
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