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Carubba-Kaleta
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.27.2013

Apr 3 @ 11:17 PM ET
So where is that Philly troll that said we wouldn't get more for pominville than Calgary got for iginla?
rsj2588
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 06.18.2012

Apr 3 @ 11:17 PM ET
Enroth as well will get a small increase i'm sure. But yes that was what I was eluding too. This year's fa crop is very very weak and mostly filled with ageing over payed vets for the most part. I can see Hodgson getting a 5 year deal for about Derek Roy money around 4-4.5 per. And as you said Weber should get about 2 mill per.
- Brockv



Yeah I just think we need to make a decision about our goaltending, if we keep Enroth he will be getting about the same as Weber.

For Hodgson I really don't want to (frank) around. Not saying we should give him a max contract or anything, but we shouldn't nickle and dime him, we don't want a Ryan O'Rielly situation here...
rsj2588
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 06.18.2012

Apr 3 @ 11:20 PM ET
Go max length and see if you can get him for 5 mil per.

His Dad/agent is going to be a bear to deal with this summer IMO.

As of now his prorated stats over an 82 game season are

28.8 goals and 35.5 assists for 64.3 points.


Agents tend to use those numbers when bargining.

- dadeadhead



Yeah I think he will be around 5, I actually think that is fair for him. He is only going to get better IMO, he has good work ethic unlike Myers.
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Apr 3 @ 11:22 PM ET
Yeah I just think we need to make a decision about our goaltending, if we keep Enroth he will be getting about the same as Weber.

For Hodgson I really don't want to (frank) around. Not saying we should give him a max contract or anything, but we shouldn't nickle and dime him, we don't want a Ryan O'Rielly situation here...

- rsj2588



IMO

Enroth 2 yrs 1 mil per
Weber 2 yrs 1.3 per


Hodgson is a wild card. IMO try and get a max length deal or a 2yr bridge deal.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Apr 3 @ 11:23 PM ET
We have 2 critical RFA's - Hodgson and Weber. Hodgson I see getting near a 5M cap hit and Weber getting 1.5-2M.
- rsj2588


Should be interesting
Darcy again waiting too long to extend a player
Could've done Hodgson before the season
Even if it was just 2years at say 2.8mil like Ennis got
Drives me crazy how little forethought this guy still has
Now he's gonna have to sign Hodgson to a Myers-like deal, and who knows how that'll mess with his head or not?
Ugh, frustrating
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Apr 3 @ 11:27 PM ET
Should be interesting
Darcy again waiting too long to extend a player
Could've done Hodgson before the season
Even if it was just 2years at say 2.8mil like Ennis got
Drives me crazy how little forethought this guy still has
Now he's gonna have to sign Hodgson to a Myers-like deal, and who knows how that'll mess with his head or not?
Ugh, frustrating

- jdfitz77



2 yr bridge deal (as I think he becomes a UFA at age 27) for 4 mil per
Max length deal at 5 mil per
5 yr deal he's a UFA at the end, 2 yr deal he get arb rights.
Guess one has to find the lesser of three evils.
Maximum Signal
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 07.11.2008

Apr 3 @ 11:28 PM ET
its not a myth, it's true.
- badgirrl


You are so off, it is scary.
sippyd
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Some unreal areas in the suburbs of Detroit. Buffalo, being smaller, simply doesn't have that.-Prock, NY
Joined: 09.30.2007

Apr 3 @ 11:29 PM ET
Nope retired.
- dadeadhead


Mogilny.
GilPerreault11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: IL
Joined: 07.21.2011

Apr 3 @ 11:30 PM ET
Should be interesting
Darcy again waiting too long to extend a player
Could've done Hodgson before the season
Even if it was just 2years at say 2.8mil like Ennis got
Drives me crazy how little forethought this guy still has
Now he's gonna have to sign Hodgson to a Myers-like deal, and who knows how that'll mess with his head or not?
Ugh, frustrating

- jdfitz77


Cody had little time in the NHL before this year. I would have had no clue what to pay him. He hadn't played a whole year in the NHL yet.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Apr 3 @ 11:30 PM ET
2 yr bridge deal (as I think he becomes a UFA at age 27) for 4 mil per
Max length deal at 5 mil per
5 yr deal he's a UFA at the end, 2 yr deal he get arb rights.
Guess one has to find the lesser of three evils.

- dadeadhead


Ya, we'll see
I just can't stand how Darcy seems to procrastinate this stuff
Mentalorgasm5
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "F-" Robert, NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

Apr 3 @ 11:32 PM ET
Should be interesting
Darcy again waiting too long to extend a player
Could've done Hodgson before the season
Even if it was just 2years at say 2.8mil like Ennis got
Drives me crazy how little forethought this guy still has
Now he's gonna have to sign Hodgson to a Myers-like deal, and who knows how that'll mess with his head or not?
Ugh, frustrating

- jdfitz77

he'll get a 1-2 year deal between 2.5-3.5 a year (most likely 3.5)
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Apr 3 @ 11:32 PM ET
Mogilny.
- sippyd



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jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Apr 3 @ 11:32 PM ET
Cody had little time in the NHL before this year. I would have had no clue what to pay him. He hadn't played a whole year in the NHL yet.
- GilPerreault11


I bet he could've been extended for 2.5m for a couple years
Decent raise for him without proving much, and not too big of a risk on our part
Now we prob are looking at paying him around double that
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Apr 3 @ 11:33 PM ET
he'll get a 1-2 year deal between 2.5-3.5 a year (most likely 3.5)
- Mentalorgasm5



For a guy that is on pace over a full season to have 64-65 points.


4 mil is the going rate.
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Apr 3 @ 11:34 PM ET
I bet he could've been extended for 2.5m for a couple years
Decent raise for him without proving much, and not too big of a risk on our part
Now we prob are looking at paying him around double that

- jdfitz77



They may have asked and Hodgson's camp said no. Vanek's camp did that in 06/07.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Apr 3 @ 11:35 PM ET
he'll get a 1-2 year deal between 2.5-3.5 a year (most likely 3.5)
- Mentalorgasm5


Don't be so sure
Why would Hodgson's agent/dad let him do that when he just saw how it all worked out for O'reilly?
Darcy blew it again
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Apr 3 @ 11:35 PM ET
Cody had little time in the NHL before this year. I would have had no clue what to pay him. He hadn't played a whole year in the NHL yet.
- GilPerreault11



He played 83 games last year...
Cheeseballin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rochester, NY
Joined: 07.05.2011

Apr 3 @ 11:35 PM ET
Should be interesting
Darcy again waiting too long to extend a player
Could've done Hodgson before the season
Even if it was just 2years at say 2.8mil like Ennis got
Drives me crazy how little forethought this guy still has
Now he's gonna have to sign Hodgson to a Myers-like deal, and who knows how that'll mess with his head or not?
Ugh, frustrating

- jdfitz77


Why would Cody want to sign a deal before the season though? He wouldn't. He knows if he plays well this year it can net him a whole bunch more money and he was right. It's a two way street Darcy can't just sign guys whenever he wants, the player has to agree to it too.
FIREonICE
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Darcys Playground, NY
Joined: 06.30.2007

Apr 3 @ 11:36 PM ET
I think JT would be happy.


Only one Suck Sister left on the roster.

- dadeadhead


Rob?
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Apr 3 @ 11:36 PM ET
They may have asked and Hodgson's camp said no. Vanek's camp did that in 06/07.
- dadeadhead


Possibly, different situation though
Vanek had already had a productive season & was more assured to a bigger payday
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Apr 3 @ 11:38 PM ET
Possibly, different situation though
Vanek had already had a productive season & was more assured to a bigger payday

- jdfitz77



He's on pace for 38 points in 48 gp this year. While it isn't 84 in 82 like Vanek, it is a very productive season IMO.
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Apr 3 @ 11:40 PM ET
Rob?
- FIREonICE



Wore the "A" when moved and according to Wiki's list of captains, he never wore it.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Apr 3 @ 11:47 PM ET
Why would Cody want to sign a deal before the season though? He wouldn't. He knows if he plays well this year it can net him a whole bunch more money and he was right. It's a two way street Darcy can't just sign guys whenever he wants, the player has to agree to it too.
- Cheeseballin


He could get hurt or have a poor season
What do u think Tropp will get extended at now? Minimum raise
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Apr 3 @ 11:50 PM ET
He could get hurt or have a poor season
What do u think Tropp will get extended at now? Minimum raise

- jdfitz77



10% raise for one year IMO.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Apr 3 @ 11:50 PM ET
He's on pace for 38 points in 48 gp this year. While it isn't 84 in 82 like Vanek, it is a very productive season IMO.
- dadeadhead


True
Just saying now we'll have to pay him more now than we would've before the season
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