Jays lose.


So much for that...
- lumlums

The L is silent. Its pronounced Jose.

We didnt get Kipper.

So, what do you think of the Leafs getting Luongo?

Oh snap, fiction.
- systemtool

I think Gillis is going end up trading Lou in a stupidly one sided deal. I wonder if we could get Bieksa + Kassian as a ransom for the contract...

Jays lose.


So much for that...
- lumlums

(frank) them. I hope they all (frank)ing die.

Is anybody offering a 2nd rounder? ...I'm not buying into his rhetoric about 4 teams being interested. A trade may have to involve a sweetner from Vancouver or a bad contract coming back. Waivers may be the best option for the Nucks'.
- The Law

I believe his words were "we're past tire kicking stage, and talking to four teams". He didn't say the other teams were making offers.... LOL. Begging four teams to take Luongo is definitely more than tire kicking.

The L is silent. Its pronounced Jose.
- systemtool

Santos needs to play on the 401.

I think Gillis is going end up trading Lou in a stupidly one sided deal. I wonder if we could get Bieksa + Kassian as a ransom for the contract...
- Viktory

I think he would if he could, but he can't even get that. It was not a random fluke that Luongo publicly stated his contract sucks.

The L is silent. Its pronounced Jose.
- systemtool

Ahhh... its a Mexican lose. Now I get it

I believe his words were "we're past tire kicking stage, and talking to four teams". He didn't say the other teams were making offers.... LOL. Begging four teams to take Luongo is definitely more than tire kicking.
- Dirte

What stage is there between kicking tires and making offers?

The taste test stage?

Ahhh... its a Mexican lose. Now I get it
- lumlums

You racist. Its a Dominican lose.

I think he would if he could, but he can't even get that. It was not a random fluke that Luongo publicly stated his contract sucks.
- systemtool

If I'm Leafs management, and being worth a billion dollars owned by billion dollar corporation, I'd use Lou as an avenue to buy assets.

We still have two amnesty buy-outs that can be used either this summer or next. Why not just buy a Top 2 RD (Bieksa), a top power forward prospect (Kassian), and maybe a first? It's not likely to get any of that in FA, through a conventional trade, and also allows the team to dump players who won't likely fit into the future. Grabovski being sent the other way. Maybe Liles? I don't know, I'm spitballing it, but I feel it could be done. I'm sure the NHLPA would be infuriated, but it would make Lou happy; like a 2nd chance. And it's like the good old days of the Leafs throwing around the wealth to get what they need. It's likely the only situation where we can use that wealth effectively.

Personally, if I'm worth Billions, I'd pay 27 Million to grab millions of dollars worth of talent and millions in consistent playoff revenue. Maybe Draft Day will be interesting.

If I'm Leafs management, and being worth a billion dollars owned by billion dollar corporation, I'd use Lou as an avenue to buy assets.

We still have two amnesty buy-outs that can be used either this summer or next. Why not just buy a Top 2 RD (Bieksa), a top power forward prospect (Kassian), and maybe a first? It's not likely to get any of that in FA, through a conventional trade, and also allows the team to dump players who won't likely fit into the future. Grabovski being sent the other way. Maybe Liles? I don't know, I'm spitballing it, but I feel it could be done. I'm sure the NHLPA would be infuriated, but it would make Lou happy; like a 2nd chance. And it's like the good old days of the Leafs throwing around the wealth to get what they need. It's likely the only situation where we can use that wealth effectively.

Personally, if I'm worth Billions, I'd pay 27 Million to grab millions of dollars worth of talent and millions in consistent playoff revenue. Maybe Draft Day will be interesting.
- Viktory

Thank god the deadline has come and passed....

Thank god the deadline has come and passed....
- systemtool

Sounds like an evening with Frenchy

No kidding.

6 months ago I wouldn't have minded that trade. But I have like what I've seen from those two for us to just go at it without the huge contract
- AngryWhiteMale

Never wanted him, not even for free, from the start.

(frank) them. I hope they all (frank)ing die.
- Tee-Dot

0-162?

Thank god the deadline has come and passed....
- systemtool

Yeah, I get it, sounds like a terrible idea. But it's basically holding Gillis against the wall for assets so as to buy him out sans cap penalties and getting assets for it.

If you look at it literially, it's buying out Grabo and Liles and getting Bieksa, Kassian and a 1st for doing so. And everyone in here was hopping on the idea of buying out Grabovski for the sake of buying out Grabovski. And Liles because he isn't working out either. You think the Leafs are going to spend 30 Million with no immediate gain?

At least this scenario provides some reward for being wealthy, unlike the Salary Cap.

Bring on the Habs! They are getting in shape for the confrontation:

If I'm Leafs management, and being worth a billion dollars owned by billion dollar corporation, I'd use Lou as an avenue to buy assets.

We still have two amnesty buy-outs that can be used either this summer or next. Why not just buy a Top 2 RD (Bieksa), a top power forward prospect (Kassian), and maybe a first? It's not likely to get any of that in FA, through a conventional trade, and also allows the team to dump players who won't likely fit into the future. Grabovski being sent the other way. Maybe Liles? I don't know, I'm spitballing it, but I feel it could be done. I'm sure the NHLPA would be infuriated, but it would make Lou happy; like a 2nd chance. And it's like the good old days of the Leafs throwing around the wealth to get what they need. It's likely the only situation where we can use that wealth effectively.

Personally, if I'm worth Billions, I'd pay 27 Million to grab millions of dollars worth of talent and millions in consistent playoff revenue. Maybe Draft Day will be interesting.
- Viktory

I'm not sure it will ever get to the point where they would pay assets to dump him. They could always just waive him and I'm sure there would be a taker for free.

The idea you have in mind isn't a bad one, but if we were going to take a brutal contract to buy assets, I'd look to NYI with DiPietro.

20 million bucks should buy us something nice from them, I'd think.

I think Gillis is going end up trading Lou in a stupidly one sided deal. I wonder if we could get Bieksa + Kassian as a ransom for the contract...
- Viktory

Still not worth it.

If I'm Leafs management, and being worth a billion dollars owned by billion dollar corporation, I'd use Lou as an avenue to buy assets.

We still have two amnesty buy-outs that can be used either this summer or next. Why not just buy a Top 2 RD (Bieksa), a top power forward prospect (Kassian), and maybe a first? It's not likely to get any of that in FA, through a conventional trade, and also allows the team to dump players who won't likely fit into the future. Grabovski being sent the other way. Maybe Liles? I don't know, I'm spitballing it, but I feel it could be done. I'm sure the NHLPA would be infuriated, but it would make Lou happy; like a 2nd chance. And it's like the good old days of the Leafs throwing around the wealth to get what they need. It's likely the only situation where we can use that wealth effectively.

Personally, if I'm worth Billions, I'd pay 27 Million to grab millions of dollars worth of talent and millions in consistent playoff revenue. Maybe Draft Day will be interesting.
- Viktory

Companies like Bell and Rogers don't look at it like that. They see that as a $27M severance package and they don't do that.

I'm not sure it will ever get to the point where they would pay assets to dump him. They could always just waive him and I'm sure there would be a taker for free.

The idea you have in mind isn't a bad one, but if we were going to take a brutal contract to buy assets, I'd look to NYI with DiPietro.

20 million bucks should buy us something nice from them, I'd think.
- Leeman4Gilmour

Not sure what they'd part with... Tavares? Probably not. Whose a Top 4 RD on that team, Reinhardt? Hamonic? Lot's of prospects there but it's hard to say what you'd get.

Hey I think it's a decent thing to consider, just not sure what you'd target.

Companies like Bell and Rogers don't look at it like that. They see that as a $27M severance package and they don't do that.
- Jeffmt

That's like saying companies don't know how to invest. They'll pay chump change for a better product any day of the week.

Not sure what they'd part with... Tavares? Probably not. Whose a Top 4 RD on that team, Reinhardt? Hamonic? Lot's of prospects there but it's hard to say what you'd get.

Hey I think it's a decent thing to consider, just not sure what you'd target.
- Viktory

Not in a million years. Teams are never going to give up a star to get rid of a bad contract. The most you ever see is something like the Gardiner/Lupul trade. Gardiner wasn't even an elite prospect at the time, just an interesting one with upside who Burke happened to know a bit about.

Companies like Bell and Rogers don't look at it like that. They see that as a $27M severance package and they don't do that.
- Jeffmt

If they included Kassian, Gaunce and a 1st round pick then buy-out Luongo at 27 million dollars, it would be like buying three 1st round picks for 9 million dollars each.

That, I would do. But that's still a really hard sell to the owners. And the Canucks would never go for it.

So, back to square one. Luongo can rot in Vancouver.

That's like saying companies don't know how to invest. They'll pay chump change for a better product any day of the week.
- Viktory

These aren't hockey people, they're business people. How do you sit down at a table with these guys and guarantee a monetary return from Bieksa and Kassian? They're going to want to know exactly how that works. If you tell them that you want to pay $27M for the opportunity to pick up Bieksa and Kassian (and then pay them a salary of their own), first off, they'll say "who?" and then they'll say no.

If they included Kassian, Gaunce and a 1st round pick and buy-out Luongo at 27 million dollars, it would be like buying three 1st round picks for 9 million dollars each.

That, I would do. But that's still a really hard sell to the owners. And the Canucks would never go for it.

So, back to square one. Luongo can rot in Vancouver.
- Two_For_Truth

You would do it because you're a hockey fan and $9M for a first round pick is an abstract number to you. These are the sorts of moves that someone like Pegula might do but MLSE won't. They already sell out every game, how can you show them that Kassian and Gaunce are going to recoup that $27M, let alone deliver a return?