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RickJames77
Boston Bruins
Location: We’re Too Old, Boston
Joined: 04.03.2013

Apr 3 @ 6:27 PM ET
A worse skater than Komisarek?
- Leafland

Does one exist?
Two_For_Truth
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: If the NHL wanted to cut ties
Joined: 06.27.2012

Apr 3 @ 6:27 PM ET
I have to agree with this.
- RickJames77


You might have an ounce of logic.
Leeman4Gilmour
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Obviously, Reimer must be the, AB
Joined: 02.02.2010

Apr 3 @ 6:27 PM ET
Not every team is smart enough to see where they really stand. You think San Jose regrets trading Clowe and then replacing him with Torres? Not for a second. They replaced the toughness and gained two 2nd round picks while doing it. That's genius. The Leafs have replacements for Bozak and MacArthur. Getting 2nd/3rd round picks for them in a deep draft would have been genius but instead it's a lost opportunity.
- Two_For_Truth


Have you considered the possibility that we end up re-signing one or both for deals that aren't overpayment?

Have you considered that there is benefit to having depth and that the players you slot in to replace them would themselves need to be replaced?
walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I really don't care about Nylander, I really hope he gets injured and is out - Makita
Joined: 07.14.2011

Apr 3 @ 6:27 PM ET
Rentals make sense for teams that have a legit shot like the Penguins or the Bruins. Not the Leafs. If you consider Bozak and MacArthur "rentals" they're a waste of space. They have no playoff experience and they aren't worth keeping next year either. Kadri replaces Bozak and Frattin replaces MacArthur with ease. The only thing Kadri can't do is win face-offs like Bozak. That's it.
- Two_For_Truth

We wouldnt win a faceoff for the rest of the season if we did that
RickJames77
Boston Bruins
Location: We’re Too Old, Boston
Joined: 04.03.2013

Apr 3 @ 6:28 PM ET
You might have an ounce of logic.
- Two_For_Truth

an ounce?
Prolific_Scorer
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Sometimes, I wanna be your fri
Joined: 04.01.2011

Apr 3 @ 6:28 PM ET
How is that even possible?
- Two_For_Truth

The purse he stole was actually his own....
Leafland
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: MATTHEW 20:16 "So the last will be first, and the first will be last.", ON
Joined: 10.25.2011

Apr 3 @ 6:29 PM ET
No Luongo no Kipper...good day
- RickJames77

I agree, Reimers prayers must have been answered.
Leeman4Gilmour
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Obviously, Reimer must be the, AB
Joined: 02.02.2010

Apr 3 @ 6:30 PM ET
an ounce?
- RickJames77


Even when people agree with him, the most credit he can bestow upon them is that they possess the very minimum level of intelligence necessary to read and post the phrase "I agree."

Nobody can possibly be on the same pedestal as him.
stevecarpetman
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 10.05.2011

Apr 3 @ 6:31 PM ET
No, you considered them rentals when you said that other teams pay for them but the Leafs already have them. They should definitely be traded for picks because they're replaceable with guys they already have.
- Two_For_Truth


Yes but you're in a catch 22 UG. You're stating that the value of them to other teams was greater than to our own given their UFA status. I am clearly stating that instead of giving them to another team as a rental we kept them as our own because we can utilize them for the playoffs. (no matter how far we go)
Mapleleafs_91
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: PAUL RANGER SUCKS
Joined: 06.27.2011

Apr 3 @ 6:31 PM ET
wow dreger said that GILLIS called Nonis about 3 times, and offered 3 different deals but Nonis didnt bite. What in GODS name was Gillis asking for
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Apr 3 @ 6:33 PM ET
wow dreger said that GILLIS called Nonis about 3 times, and offered 3 different deals but Nonis didnt bite. What in GODS name was Gillis asking for
- Mapleleafs_91

Scrivens, picks and prospect
RickJames77
Boston Bruins
Location: We’re Too Old, Boston
Joined: 04.03.2013

Apr 3 @ 6:34 PM ET
Scrivens, picks and prospect
- Fakepartofme

Fruitcakenipple
Location: NF
Joined: 01.12.2011

Apr 3 @ 6:34 PM ET
@markhmasters: Nonis on being a #tradecentre buyer: 'I didn't get a lot of calls on Bozak or MacArthur bc we weren't really in a position to move them'
BorjeFan4Ever
Season Ticket Holder
Location: not the BigSmoke anymore
Joined: 10.29.2007

Apr 3 @ 6:34 PM ET
And Bozak and MacArthur are going to either get overpaid to stay or walk for nothing. Either you get a shot at something with a 2nd rounder in a deep draft or you get nothing. That's a tough one.
- Two_For_Truth


or perhaps - in a slightly less dark colored universe - one or both of them signs a reasonable CAP friendly contract because they genuinely want to stay with a team that seems to be growing together....

heck... why don't they just trade everyone for draft picks an call up the entire Marlies team...

I'm surprised that you are so adamant about collecting 2nd round picks.. isn't only the top 3 or 4 players in the draft that have the chance to be stars? and that is afterall what the Leaf team needs - a 1st line center , a "real" #1 defenseman and "franchise" goalie right?
Mr_Smokey
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.02.2008

Apr 3 @ 6:34 PM ET
Not every team is smart enough to see where they really stand. You think San Jose regrets trading Clowe and then replacing him with Torres? Not for a second. They replaced the toughness and gained two 2nd round picks while doing it. That's genius. The Leafs have replacements for Bozak and MacArthur. Getting 2nd/3rd round picks for them in a deep draft would have been genius but instead it's a lost opportunity.
- Two_For_Truth


You are so (frank)ing lost guy there's not a GPS on planet earth that can help you.

The Leafs are pretty much a lock to make the playoffs and you want Nonis to trade the guys that helped them this year for 2nd rounders.. brilliant...
There's also this thing called injuries in the playoffs maybe you've seen then or read about them somewhere, they happen and having depth helps.

Mac and Bozak are far from great players and if the team was not in the playoffs fine trade them but for you to take this stance is just complete nonsense are further proves you are nothing more than a contrarian.
fifty__missions
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Burkie's Rented Barn, ON
Joined: 02.12.2013

Apr 3 @ 6:34 PM ET
Not every team is smart enough to see where they really stand. You think San Jose regrets trading Clowe and then replacing him with Torres? Not for a second. They replaced the toughness and gained two 2nd round picks while doing it. That's genius. The Leafs have replacements for Bozak and MacArthur. Getting 2nd/3rd round picks for them in a deep draft would have been genius but instead it's a lost opportunity.
- Two_For_Truth


If Doug Wilson is so damn smart, he would have dealt with that dysfunctional group ages ago, and maybe not locked up Marleau again? That's genius!!
stevecarpetman
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 10.05.2011

Apr 3 @ 6:35 PM ET
YOU SON OF A!



oh


haha

friend



*Is butthurt*

- AdamFrench

They still have had a better record than the Leafs since 2004
Mr_Smokey
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.02.2008

Apr 3 @ 6:36 PM ET
@markhmasters: Nonis on being a #tradecentre buyer: 'I didn't get a lot of calls on Bozak or MacArthur bc we weren't really in a position to move them'
- Fruitcakenipple


No poop eh.... too bad Nonis' bat phone didn't reach UG's moms basement
Mapleleafs_91
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: PAUL RANGER SUCKS
Joined: 06.27.2011

Apr 3 @ 6:36 PM ET
Scrivens, picks and prospect
- Fakepartofme


I am surprised he wasn't moved to the leafs. Depends what those prospects or picks were then that changes everything. I LIKE how scrivens was going to be included, when majority of nucks fans BLASTED the idea of getting scrivens, bro we have eddie lack or whatever his name is
tmlfan69
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: YT
Joined: 07.28.2006

Apr 3 @ 6:39 PM ET
I am surprised he wasn't moved to the leafs. Depends what those prospects or picks were then that changes everything. I LIKE how scrivens was going to be included, when majority of nucks fans BLASTED the idea of getting scrivens, bro we have eddie lack or whatever his name is
- Mapleleafs_91


Who?
Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: God Leafs Satan The Oneness, ON
Joined: 02.28.2011

Apr 3 @ 6:39 PM ET
A possible outcome though of trading Bozak and Mac for 2nd and 3rds is its possible and I would say more likely than not that those picks won't actually end up being anything even as good as those players, while those players flourish elsewhere.

And this year, let's be honest, there's no way the Leafs were going to take Bozak and Mac and more out of the lineup while the team is very close to being in the playoffs in a tight conference. We all know the ratings and sales are going to be bonkers and the city will be jerking off about it as one to see the Leafs in the playoffs again. If they win a round (why not), people will be naming their newborns Nazim. I'm positive if nothing else they kept Bozak especially for that reason.

I'm just happy that although they might have missed out on some late picks by standing pat they didn't give up any firsts or seconds. They've retained picks at least, that's a valuable pick to have held on to (also next year's pick we still have...for now)
RickJames77
Boston Bruins
Location: We’re Too Old, Boston
Joined: 04.03.2013

Apr 3 @ 6:39 PM ET
What do you all think of the Erat for Forsberg trade? Wouldn't have done it myself, then again I don't know much about Latta.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Apr 3 @ 6:40 PM ET
I am surprised he wasn't moved to the leafs. Depends what those prospects or picks were then that changes everything. I LIKE how scrivens was going to be included, when majority of nucks fans BLASTED the idea of getting scrivens, bro we have eddie lack or whatever his name is
- Mapleleafs_91

Lou will be add for less in the summer
Two_For_Truth
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: If the NHL wanted to cut ties
Joined: 06.27.2012

Apr 3 @ 6:41 PM ET
Have you considered the possibility that we end up re-signing one or both for deals that aren't overpayment?

Have you considered that there is benefit to having depth and that the players you slot in to replace them would themselves need to be replaced?

- Leeman4Gilmour


Yes, because 3rd liners like Bozak and MacArthur are so incredibly hard to replace.
RickJames77
Boston Bruins
Location: We’re Too Old, Boston
Joined: 04.03.2013

Apr 3 @ 6:42 PM ET
Lou will be add for less in the summer
- Fakepartofme

The leafs should just stay clear of him and his contract
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