- Feeling Glucky?

TSN guys were hyping it up

Adding overpriced veterans is a waste. Unloading redundant, useless or pending UFAs is a great way to get more value. Trading Bozak, MacArthur and Liles could have got the Leafs at least three or four 2nd/3rd round picks and they already have a replacement for each one in the system. Wasted opportunity. Now Bozak either gets overpaid to stay or walks for nothing and MacArthur walks for nothing too.
- Two_For_Truth

It's time to step off your pedestal, and realize you can speculate all day.. But you don't know anything. You don't know that there was a market for any of those guys that was worthwhile. You're taking educated guesses and breathing it as fact.

I'm dying to hear how o'byrne is overpriced. Is it the 1.6 mil part, or the pending UFA part? Or is the problem parting with an expendable 4th rounder?

He quietly address a major area of need to an unbalanced blueline, for cheap money.. And zero term, at what barely qualifies as a price tag.

Even you're going to have to stretch to whine about this one.

I hope they resign Bozak...
- Flyfreaky

More useful as a 2nd and conditional 5th round pick.

More useful as a 2nd and conditional 5th round pick.
- Two_For_Truth

So that's why no one heard from you all day. Nonis and company had you on a conference call just trying to keep you in the loop before they did anything serious.

TSN guys were hyping it up
- AdamFrench

I mean... I like Erat and all.

But...

It's time to step off your pedestal, and realize you can speculate all day.. But you don't know anything. You don't know that there was a market for any of those guys that was worthwhile. You're taking educated guesses and breathing it as fact.
- joel878

Nonis said he wasn't going to move his UFAs when he should have been because not only are they worth more than usual but he also has replacements for all of them. Kadri can replace Bozak. Frattin can replace MacArthur. Gardiner can replace Liles. Giving the young guys more ice time while adding a bunch of 2nd/3rd round picks is what he should still be aiming for.

I'm dying to hear how o'byrne is overpriced. Is it the 1.6 mil part, or the pending UFA part? Or is the problem parting with an expendable 4th rounder?
He quietly address a major area of need to an unbalanced blueline, for cheap money.. And zero term, at what barely qualifies as a price tag.

They already have Holzer who is pretty much what O'Byrne is except O'Byrne is older and is more aggressive. Same style of player but not worth a draft pick for.

Dregger saying Nucks wanted Scrivens and multiple picks today for Luongo..

Adding overpriced veterans is a waste. Unloading redundant, useless or pending UFAs is a great way to get more value. Trading Bozak, MacArthur and Liles could have got the Leafs at least three or four 2nd/3rd round picks and they already have a replacement for each one in the system. Wasted opportunity. Now Bozak either gets overpaid to stay or walks for nothing and MacArthur walks for nothing too.
- Two_For_Truth

Can't say I agree with the Bozak comments. He's needed right now, and I'm not sure if you mean Colborne would be the in house replacement? If so, I wouldn't throw that kid into the fire yet, I don't think he'd fare to well come play*ffs.

Bozak is just one this team might have to suck up, try and keep him on, but if they lose him, tough break.

Dregger saying Nucks wanted Scrivens and multiple picks today for Luongo..
- Fruitcakenipple

Nonis must hate that contract. Probably some firsts to.

TSN guys were hyping it up
- AdamFrench

Jokinen was a bit of a steal for the Penguins considering they got them to hold onto part of his salary and it was a conditional 7th or something. Their strategy seems to be find anybody with a little bit of talent, put them with one of the two big stars and watch them overachieve like Kunitz and Dupuis.

Nonis said he wasn't going to move his UFAs when he should have been because not only are they worth more than usual but he also has replacements for all of them. Kadri can replace Bozak. Frattin can replace MacArthur. Gardiner can replace Liles. Giving the young guys more ice time while adding a bunch of 2nd/3rd round picks is what he should still be aiming for.



They already have Holzer who is pretty much what O'Byrne is except O'Byrne is older and is more aggressive. Same style of player but not worth a draft pick for.
- Two_For_Truth

And you're entitled to your opinion, but that's all it is. I'm going to go ahead and trust Dave Nonis before you on what should and shouldn't have been done.

Yes, and I'm pretty sure o'byrne wouldn't be a leaf if the holzer audition wasn't already a complete disaster. O'byrne gives us a better option over the next 12 games, and the playoffs. Far better option.. And if it doesn't work out, losses are cut and we go back to a little further developed holzer.

I mean... I like Erat and all.

But...
- Feeling Glucky?

Yup. Solid to-6 winger and all and it does help the Caps down the stretch with

OV - Backstrom - Brouwer

Johansson/Laich - Ribeiro - Erat

Chimera - Laich/Johansson - Ward


Better than the jets top-9.

Can't say I agree with the Bozak comments. He's needed right now, and I'm not sure if you mean Colborne would be the in house replacement? If so, I wouldn't throw that kid into the fire yet, I don't think he'd fare to well come play*ffs.

Bozak is just one this team might have to suck up, try and keep him on, but if they lose him, tough break.
- Leafland

The only thing Bozak does better than Kadri is win face-offs. That's it. And no, I wasn't talking about Colborne, I was talking about Kadri. Kadri replaces Bozak, Grabovski plays the 2nd line, McClement plays the 3rd line, Komarov plays the 4th line.

More useful as a 2nd and conditional 5th round pick.
- Two_For_Truth

I think he's more useful to this team right now...

Dregger saying Nucks wanted Scrivens and multiple picks today for Luongo..
- Fruitcakenipple

(frank) gillis is just stupid if he could have got scrivens he should have accept that and cut his loses.

And you're entitled to your opinion, but that's all it is. I'm going to go ahead and trust Dave Nonis before you on what should and shouldn't have been done.
- joel878

Nonis is making a mistake. He had a chance to get picks for guys he already has replacements for in the system. When he has to overpay them to stay or watches them walk for nothing he's going to regret it.

Yes, and I'm pretty sure o'byrne wouldn't be a leaf if the holzer audition wasn't already a complete disaster. O'byrne gives us a better option over the next 12 games, and the playoffs. Far better option.. And if it doesn't work out, losses are cut and we go back to a little further developed holzer.

Holzer played 20 minutes a game. If he played 15 minutes a game, like O'Byrne does, he would have been fine. Waste of a 4th round pick to pick up a guy who is almost identical to what they already have in the system.

Dregger saying Nucks wanted Scrivens and multiple picks today for Luongo..
- Fruitcakenipple

Not even for free. And he pretty much threw Gillis under the bus by saying what he said about his contract. Gillis is going to have to give him away for free. Just hope it's not to the Leafs.

Nonis must hate that contract. Probably some firsts to.
- Leafland

I know Luongo does!!


Seriously Gillis is a moron.

Not even for free. And he pretty much threw Gillis under the bus by saying what he said about his contract. Gillis is going to have to give him away for free. Just hope it's not to the Leafs.
- Two_For_Truth

Gillis sucks...I'm having a difficult time believing they wouldn't take Grabo or Komi's bad contract to move Lu...

I think he's more useful to this team right now...
- Flyfreaky

Nah.

The only thing Bozak does better than Kadri is win face-offs. That's it. And no, I wasn't talking about Colborne, I was talking about Kadri. Kadri replaces Bozak, Grabovski plays the 2nd line, McClement plays the 3rd line, Komarov plays the 4th line.
- Two_For_Truth

I agree, Bozak does alright though, he's picked it up the last few weeks as well as everyone else.

Nonis must have felt he's to valuable to the team right now and I've got to agree. Wait and see in the offseason now.

Yup. Solid to-6 winger and all and it does help the Caps down the stretch with.
- AdamFrench

For Forsberg? Unless you think Erat has an offensive explosion by getting out of the defensive system.

And you're entitled to your opinion, but that's all it is. I'm going to go ahead and trust Dave Nonis before you on what should and shouldn't have been done.

Yes, and I'm pretty sure o'byrne wouldn't be a leaf if the holzer audition wasn't already a complete disaster. O'byrne gives us a better option over the next 12 games, and the playoffs. Far better option.. And if it doesn't work out, losses are cut and we go back to a little further developed holzer.
- joel878

Howard.

Gillis sucks...I'm having a difficult time believing they wouldn't take Grabo or Komi's bad contract to move Lu...
- Flyfreaky

They stated he wanted scrivens and draft picks If hes not taking any cap back, then he can go (frank) himself

Nonis is making a mistake. He had a chance to get picks for guys he already has replacements for in the system. When he has to overpay them to stay or watches them walk for nothing he's going to regret it.



Holzer played 20 minutes a game. If he played 15 minutes a game, like O'Byrne does, he would have been fine. Waste of a 4th round pick to pick up a guy who is almost identical to what they already have in the system.
- Two_For_Truth

Again, you are a nobody. You can say Nonis is wrong all day, but you're doing it from the capital of nooneville. It means nothing.

Keeping the players may be better than any non consequential draft picks they would have gotten. Take a young team on its first playoff run, and ship off a few of the players that might count as veterans on this core? Instead take a few mid round draft picks and take your young players on a slaughter run. Great educational/developmental experience to get these guys to the next level.

Might want to take a look at o'byrnes minutes before you keep spouting off with this crap. You're wrong.