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Forums :: Blog World :: Bill Meltzer: Meltzer's Musings: On Clowe, Rosehill and the Trade Deadline
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mikel33
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, NJ
Joined: 08.09.2007

Apr 2 @ 11:33 AM ET
So he'll go to the Pens then, is what you're saying?

- BringBack25


Their cap room is like a magician's hat.. so many star players, tons of room to work with even after getting Iginla.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Apr 2 @ 11:33 AM ET
With Talbot out, the Flyers could have used Zolnierczyk as a 4th liner. Every player is an asset. He can be a bit of an agitator and provides good speed. He was a bit of a spark plug for the Flyers this year. Rosehill is a flat out goon. There's literally nothing he does but fight the other team's goon.

I don't mind so much trading Zolnierczyk as I do in adding an player whose talent level is ECHL, but who is in the NHL because he can fight.

- Jsaquella


The real punchline here is that Rosehill isn't even that great of a fighter.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Apr 2 @ 11:34 AM ET
And don't forget that game when he might have scored a goal.
- BulliesPhan87


"We came close once. We only lost by 5, and we almost scored a goal."
flyershockey
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: smh, NC
Joined: 07.09.2006

Apr 2 @ 11:34 AM ET
Rosehill has played 0 NHL minutes this season.
- Scoob


but if it is suggested that he will be in the flyers lineup, he'd get minutes...isnt he then more valuable then a scratched harry z?
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: dicky seamus, PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Apr 2 @ 11:34 AM ET
Exactly. Say Rosehill is on the team on Sunday night. He's not going to be out on a line with Giroux. So Voracek is still going to do what he did. He's not sitting there going...Hmmm, well we got Rosehill...

Rinaldo is more of a deterrent. All you do is make it clear that if Giroux gets unfairly handled, that the other team's star player will be getting a visit from Rinaldo. That's more effective than Rosehill banging his knuckles off the other team's goon's head.

- Jsaquella


No doubt about it.

Speaking of Rinaldo, it annoys the poop out of me that he seems to play much less in the second half of any given game when compared to the first, even though he's hitting everything in site, causing turnovers, chaos, and sometimes earning a man advantage for his team.

He needs to get a new contract and have an increased role next season, imo. I could see him as a solid PKer ala Talbot, Feds, etc.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Apr 2 @ 11:35 AM ET
harry z is a healthy scratch, rosehill plays 5 minutes an night...who is more of an asset to the team?

- flyershockey

That's a trick question, right?
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Apr 2 @ 11:35 AM ET
Isnt that the point of hockeybuzz, to discuss the going on of the team you follow?
- ggunky


Apparently not.

Let's discuss Led Zeppelin albums instead, so nobody gets offended by actually discussing the team.

My favorite is the untitled 4th album.
flyershockey
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: smh, NC
Joined: 07.09.2006

Apr 2 @ 11:35 AM ET
Isnt that the point of hockeybuzz, to discuss the going on of the team you follow?
- ggunky


its not to dissect a harry z for rosehill trade for 24 hours, and regurgitate the same poop over and over
Philly1980
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.30.2011

Apr 2 @ 11:35 AM ET
They're supposedly in on everyone in the rumor mill, there's tons to talk about.

I've heard Clowe, Vanek, Myers, Burns and Erik Johnson for starters.

- Jsaquella


i think myers can be had......a change of scenery might do wonders. Besides couts what do you think the flyers can give to get him?

Myers/Schenn
Timmo/Cobum
Gross/Mezz

?
mikel33
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, NJ
Joined: 08.09.2007

Apr 2 @ 11:35 AM ET
Rockin' Roses

(I miss Riley Cote.)

- bradleyc4


As long as there is talk about an event, why should it just be stopped? Just don't engage in the talk about it.

Edit: I think I quoted the wrong person here, haha.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Apr 2 @ 11:36 AM ET
Is Sestito better? Based on his lack of play, there was something that the Flyers management didn't like about him. Sestito may not be capable of playing a more refined agitator/goon role, like Rinaldo. Sestito had a lot of dumb penalties. Let's see what Rosehill brings.

(Rosehill may just be a better lockroom guy, ability to play defense in practice - like Shelley, and have excellent popcorn serving ability to bring Mr Clarke his game corn...)

- leon neon



Rosehill and Sestito are a wash, IMO.

Sestito theoretically brings more talent to the table, but he's got the IQ and processing power of a turnip. He's also not a very adept fighter despite his size.

Rosehill is just as useless, but at least he's some semblance of a brain in there. And he can win a fight every now and then.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Apr 2 @ 11:36 AM ET
"We came close once. We only lost by 5, and we almost scored a goal."
- jmatchett383

Tantamount in greatness to Shero's 'win now' quote.
flyershockey
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: smh, NC
Joined: 07.09.2006

Apr 2 @ 11:36 AM ET
Apparently not.

Let's discuss Led Zeppelin albums instead, so nobody gets offended by actually discussing the team.

My favorite is the untitled 4th album.

- Jsaquella


you discuss off topic things (like music) quite frequently, which according to the rules of the site should get you banned
BringBack25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: deep lurk
Joined: 01.03.2007

Apr 2 @ 11:37 AM ET
Their cap room is like a magician's hat.. so many star players, tons of room to work with even after getting Iginla.
- mikel33


"All your deadline deals are belong to us"
- Ray Shero
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Apr 2 @ 11:37 AM ET
No doubt about it.

Speaking of Rinaldo, it annoys the poop out of me that he seems to play much less in the second half of any given game when compared to the first, even though he's hitting everything in site, causing turnovers, chaos, and sometimes earning a man advantage for his team.

He needs to get a new contract and have an increased role next season, imo. I could see him as a solid PKer ala Talbot, Feds, etc.

- wolfhounds


He wouldn't be as effective playing 13-15 minutes, but there's games where he plays 5-7 minutes. He should be getting 10-12 minutes a night. He provides energy, he gets the team fired up with his hitting and he draws penalties.

If you have a third/fourth liner getting you a PP every game, he's doing a great job.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Apr 2 @ 11:37 AM ET
Apparently not.

Let's discuss Led Zeppelin albums instead, so nobody gets offended by actually discussing the team.

My favorite is the untitled 4th album.

- Jsaquella

Your non-stop analysis of untitled Led Zeppelin albums isn't going to land you a gig at CSN.
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: dicky seamus, PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Apr 2 @ 11:38 AM ET
Jagr officially on trade block per Lebrun
- nonpoint22


Weren't they already offered 2 2nds for Jagr? How do you pass that up? It'll be interesting to see if they get more before tomorrow.
FlyersGrace
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Pronger "Play the game puffnuts!" , DE
Joined: 07.02.2012

Apr 2 @ 11:38 AM ET
"All your deadline deals are belong to us"
- Ray Shero

- BringBack25


Awesome.
ggunky
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I like cold beverages, NJ
Joined: 04.09.2008

Apr 2 @ 11:38 AM ET
Apparently not.

Let's discuss Led Zeppelin albums instead, so nobody gets offended by actually discussing the team.

My favorite is the untitled 4th album.

- Jsaquella



I prefer Dream Theater - Images and Words album, I hope that doesn't offend you.





BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Apr 2 @ 11:38 AM ET
its not to dissect a harry z for rosehill trade for 24 hours, and regurgitate the same poop over and over
- flyershockey

Obviously, you've never been to this site before. Have you ever heard of Jody Shelley?
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Apr 2 @ 11:38 AM ET
you discuss off topic things (like music) quite frequently, which according to the rules of the site should get you banned
- flyershockey


I'd like to dissect the famous Jari Kurri to the Flyers deal.
nonpoint22
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 02.16.2011

Apr 2 @ 11:38 AM ET
What are peoples thoughts if we got Erik Johnson....I just dont what to think of him...first overall pick that would have been traded twice and I just dont know....what is your guys thoughts on EJ?
KGBflyers10
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 10.28.2007

Apr 2 @ 11:39 AM ET
I'd rather take Jagr than Clowe at this point.

Would you guys do

2 2nd round picks for Jagr, and Couturier for Erik Johnson?
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Apr 2 @ 11:39 AM ET
I prefer Dream Theater - Images and Words album, I hope that doesn't offend you.


- ggunky

I saw Dream Theater as an opening act once. I was stunned when it was explained they didn't just play one really, really, really long song.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Apr 2 @ 11:39 AM ET
I prefer Dream Theater - Images and Words album, I hope that doesn't offend you.


- ggunky


Dream Theater, much like Alexander Daigle, is never the right answer.
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