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Forums :: Blog World :: Bill Meltzer: Meltzer's Musings: On Clowe, Rosehill and the Trade Deadline
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Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Apr 2 @ 11:26 AM ET
What type of player are you going to get in the 6th round. Only some 6th rounders even see the NHL. Good ones are very rare (unless your Detroit). You got to ask, will Rosehill be better than Shelley (now) or Sestito (was)? Because that's the role he'll be filling. And, as for next year, Rosehill will be better than any 6th draft pick.

FYI. Maybe he can fill in for Defense

http://www.hockeysfuture....m/prospects/jay_rosehill/

Hockey Future has Rosehill listed as a defensive defenseman...

"Rosehill’s greatest assets are his size, strength and punishing physical style. He is never one to back down from challenge and delivers bone-jarring hits as often as the opportunities present themselves. He’s a solid defensive defenseman that progressed quite nicely over the course of his freshman campaign."

- leon neon


I've seen Rosehill play. If he's a solid defensive defenseman, than Randy Jones is (frank)ing Bobby Orr
BringBack25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: deep lurk
Joined: 01.03.2007

Apr 2 @ 11:26 AM ET
Rosters expand tomorrow and he's gone at the end of the year. There's virtually no waste, imo.
- bradleyc4


For crying out loud Brad, would you stop with all the logic and reason!!??!?!?!

Goons are bad, ergo, this is a bad trade, so just stop with all your "rosters expand tomorrow", and "Harry Z is AHL talent" fancy talk and get with the program.

THIS IS BAD!!!!!
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Apr 2 @ 11:26 AM ET
Can anyone name any 7th rounders that ever became stars?
- mikel33


Zetterberg
Gilmour
Host of others (Hasek, Robitaille) taken when there were more than 7 rounds. Timonen was a 10th rounder.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Apr 2 @ 11:26 AM ET
I don't think people have a problem losing Harry Z, I think its what they got for him that has people still talking.. Probably could have gotten more.
- mikel33


A bag of pucks and some Wawa subs would've been more.
nonpoint22
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 02.16.2011

Apr 2 @ 11:27 AM ET
Jagr officially on trade block per Lebrun
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Apr 2 @ 11:27 AM ET
Henrik Zetterberg
- gypsypunk92


Harry Z > Henrik Z
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Apr 2 @ 11:28 AM ET
Pierre Lebrun says Dallas is going to trade Jagr
section32
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Raleigh, NC
Joined: 02.15.2007

Apr 2 @ 11:28 AM ET
I still can't believe Briere sustained a serious concussion at practice right before the trade deadline.
- Feanor

At least he has an NMC to protect him. Last year it was JVR that got injured before the TDL and guess what....he still got traded for L. Schenn in the offseason.
wtfd103074
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: turnersville, NJ
Joined: 02.20.2012

Apr 2 @ 11:28 AM ET
Lets say Coots is definately gone. Lets hear what we all would find an acceptable return (names please).
- mikel33



Weber
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Apr 2 @ 11:28 AM ET
Pierre Lebrun says Dallas is going to trade Jagr
- Jsaquella


Rosehill for Jagr?
flyershockey
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: smh, NC
Joined: 07.09.2006

Apr 2 @ 11:28 AM ET
With Talbot out, the Flyers could have used Zolnierczyk as a 4th liner. Every player is an asset. He can be a bit of an agitator and provides good speed. He was a bit of a spark plug for the Flyers this year. Rosehill is a flat out goon. There's literally nothing he does but fight the other team's goon.

I don't mind so much trading Zolnierczyk as I do in adding an player whose talent level is ECHL, but who is in the NHL because he can fight.

- Jsaquella


harry z is a healthy scratch, rosehill plays 5 minutes an night...who is more of an asset to the team?

wellwood, mcginn and a host of others are harry z's equal or better. losing him means nothing.

your non stop analysis of a meaningless trade isn't going to get you a gig with CSN.
nonpoint22
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 02.16.2011

Apr 2 @ 11:29 AM ET
I've seen Rosehill play. If he's a solid defensive defenseman, than Randy Jones is (frank)ing Bobby Orr
- Jsaquella

That good huh
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Apr 2 @ 11:29 AM ET
reports are that the Stars have decided to move Jagr and the leading team is Boston
bradleyc4
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the jewelry is still out
Joined: 01.16.2007

Apr 2 @ 11:29 AM ET
reports are that the Stars have decided to move Jagr and the leading team is Boston
- nastyflyergirl


Detroit also in the mix.
mikel33
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, NJ
Joined: 08.09.2007

Apr 2 @ 11:29 AM ET
Henrik Zetterberg
- gypsypunk92


Ahh. Nice. I find it interesting how some players excel when they get to the pros.

Also, Jeff MacMillan became a star. (I'm sorry)
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Apr 2 @ 11:30 AM ET
That good huh
- nonpoint22


Don't diss Randy Nones. He probably broke up a pass once...maybe.
BringBack25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: deep lurk
Joined: 01.03.2007

Apr 2 @ 11:30 AM ET
reports are that the Stars have decided to move Jagr and the leading team is Boston
- nastyflyergirl


So he'll go to the Pens then, is what you're saying?
KGBflyers10
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 10.28.2007

Apr 2 @ 11:31 AM ET
#Jagrwatch
leon neon
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: GA
Joined: 02.16.2009

Apr 2 @ 11:31 AM ET
Well Sestito was brought up, he's a better player than Rosehill and he was thrown out on waivers, then a trade is made for a goon. The reactionary bullpoop is really dumb.
- PLindbergh31


Is Sestito better? Based on his lack of play, there was something that the Flyers management didn't like about him. Sestito may not be capable of playing a more refined agitator/goon role, like Rinaldo. Sestito had a lot of dumb penalties. Let's see what Rosehill brings.

(Rosehill may just be a better lockroom guy, ability to play defense in practice - like Shelley, and have excellent popcorn serving ability to bring Mr Clarke his game corn...)
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Apr 2 @ 11:32 AM ET
harry z is a healthy scratch, rosehill plays 5 minutes an night...who is more of an asset to the team?
- flyershockey


Rosehill has played 0 NHL minutes this season.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Apr 2 @ 11:32 AM ET
harry z is a healthy scratch, rosehill plays 5 minutes an night...who is more of an asset to the team?

wellwood, mcginn and a host of others are harry z's equal or better. losing him means nothing.

your non stop analysis of a meaningless trade isn't going to get you a gig with CSN.

- flyershockey


I'm not trying for a gig anywhere. I'm on a hockey message board discussing a trade that was made by two hockey teams. That's sort of the whole point of the website, isn't it?

Don't like it? Feel free to ignore it. I won't lose sleep over it. But I'm not going to take orders from you.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Apr 2 @ 11:33 AM ET
Is Sestito better? Based on his lack of play, there was something that the Flyers management didn't like about him. Sestito may not be capable of playing a more refined agitator/goon role, like Rinaldo. Sestito had a lot of dumb penalties. Let's see what Rosehill brings.

(Rosehill may just be a better lockroom guy, ability to play defense in practice - like Shelley, and have excellent popcorn serving ability to bring Mr Clarke his game corn...)

- leon neon


Rosehill also has big hands. Maybe Shelley needs better competition to challenge to a thumb war in the Riley Cote International Suite.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Apr 2 @ 11:33 AM ET
Don't diss Randy Nones. He probably broke up a pass once...maybe.
- jmatchett383

And don't forget that game when he might have scored a goal.
ggunky
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I like cold beverages, NJ
Joined: 04.09.2008

Apr 2 @ 11:33 AM ET
harry z is a healthy scratch, rosehill plays 5 minutes an night...who is more of an asset to the team?

wellwood, mcginn and a host of others are harry z's equal or better. losing him means nothing.

your non stop analysis of a meaningless trade isn't going to get you a gig with CSN.

- flyershockey



Isnt that the point of hockeybuzz, to discuss the going on of the team you follow?

bradleyc4
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the jewelry is still out
Joined: 01.16.2007

Apr 2 @ 11:33 AM ET
For crying out loud Brad, would you stop with all the logic and reason!!??!?!?!

Goons are bad, ergo, this is a bad trade, so just stop with all your "rosters expand tomorrow", and "Harry Z is AHL talent" fancy talk and get with the program.

THIS IS BAD!!!!!

- BringBack25


Rockin' Roses

(I miss Riley Cote.)
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