Cmon man. Look at our roster last two years and how it was built!

Stepan is a 2nd rounder
Dubi was a 2nd Rounder
Arti was a 2nd Rounder
We sent two seconds for Erixon
(Aka Rick Nash was had for essentially all 2nd round picks we have made)
You guys like Lindberg right? He was drafted in the Second Round. And we got him by trading a second round pick in Ethan Werek.


Now tell me again how Second rounders aren't important? Oh and this ignores deeper picks in Hags, Fasth, Cally, and Hank but those were crap shoot picks in all honesty and are exceptions to the rule. The above? It shows we do well in the second round. This trade is a (frank)ing joke. It isnt even a 2nd and conditional 3rd. It's a 2 3 and maybe ANOTHER 2. Its a (frank)ing joke.

EDIT: Sorry I forgot Sauer too.
- mrhattrick27

The way this team was going, and the window they have with Hank in his prime, would you rather have Clowe or 2 2nd round picks?

I hope your right, this move to me indicates another is coming, like getting more for Boyle than he's worth if any of the rumors from Brooksie are correct
- cranford93

Pyatt and Boyle could combine for two 3rds.

This clowe trade is one we will judge in like 2 or 3 years

The way this team was going, and the window they have with Hank in his prime, would you rather have Clowe or 2 2nd round picks?
- TPC

2 2nd round picks, is that even a question? Sorry if I sound like Richard im just pissed. He has 0 goals. He sucks right now.

Pyatt and Boyle could combine for two 3rds.

This clowe trade is one we will judge in like 2 or 3 years
- Slimtj100

Or in 12 games?

dammit! i honestly said to myself "ok dont (frank) it up this time"

my first instinct is always 1 N too. dont know why i always add the second
- Crimsoninja

When you forget just go look at the name of the Columbus Blue Jackets blogger on this site. We spell our first names the same.

To me draft picks aren't worth it if you can get a proven NHL player and get a need at the same time. We needed size on the wing. I think that's why they were trying Boyle there. I see clowe planting his big rump in front the net and getting a few garbage goals. Especially on the pp. They need a player like him on the worst way

Cmon man. Look at our roster last two years and how it was built!

Stepan is a 2nd rounder
Dubi was a 2nd Rounder
Arti was a 2nd Rounder
We sent two seconds for Erixon
(Aka Rick Nash was had for essentially all 2nd round picks we have made)
You guys like Lindberg right? He was drafted in the Second Round. And we got him by trading a second round pick in Ethan Werek.


Now tell me again how Second rounders aren't important? Oh and this ignores deeper picks in Hags, Fasth, Cally, and Hank but those were crap shoot picks in all honesty and are exceptions to the rule. The above? It shows we do well in the second round. This trade is a (frank)ing joke. It isnt even a 2nd and conditional 3rd. It's a 2 3 and maybe ANOTHER 2. Its a (frank)ing joke.

EDIT: Sorry I forgot Sauer too.
- mrhattrick27

Now look at the percent of second rounders that don't become nhl regulars... Not saying picks are useless but certainly risk getting a quality nhl player

To me draft picks aren't worth it if you can get a proven NHL player and get a need at the same time. We needed size on the wing. I think that's why they were trying Boyle there. I see clowe planting his big rump in front the net and getting a few garbage goals. Especially on the pp. They need a player like him on the worst way
- Slimtj100

He's proven that this year he sucks and is on the decline of his career.

To me draft picks aren't worth it if you can get a proven NHL player and get a need at the same time. We needed size on the wing. I think that's why they were trying Boyle there. I see clowe planting his big rump in front the net and getting a few garbage goals. Especially on the pp. They need a player like him on the worst way
- Slimtj100

exactly how i feel. we are a better team with clowe

Now look at the percent of second rounders that don't become nhl regulars... Not saying picks are useless but certainly risk getting a quality nhl player
- bonzo11

agreed, but he's not quality, he has 0 goals. He is on the decline and not worth what we paid at all.

2 2nd round picks, is that even a question? Sorry if I sound like Richard im just pissed. He has 0 goals. He sucks right now.
- mrhattrick27

His job isn't going to be to score goals though. If you are going to judge the trade on goals then yea you will most likely be disappointed .

Just watch what his presence does to the lineup. What is the one thing we have said all season. This team looks dead, no battle, where is the energy? I think he brings that important emotion aspect to the room that sparks this team. And on the top of that, while he has no goals this year, he has scored over 15 goals 5 times in his career. He can score.

Maybe its me, but I would rather have Clowe bring some life to this lineup then the 2 2nd round picks. Yea he could blow up in our faces, o well...I think this type of move is worth the risk.

Or in 12 games?
- mrhattrick27

Yea good point

I think he could be valuable like prust. In the sense that he will protect teammates. He jumped off the bench earlier this year to engage in rough stuff this year for cryin out loud.

I got my jam I looking for

He's proven that this year he sucks and is on the decline of his career.
- mrhattrick27

Players slump! he is 30 years old. He has played 400+ games and been a very good player. 28 games where he doesn't score and he sucks?

agreed, but he's not quality, he has 0 goals. He is on the decline and not worth what we paid at all.
- mrhattrick27

Why is every players value gotta based on goals? I don't get it. Prust wasn't based on goals. Fedetenkos wasn't. Guys like clowe do things other the score.

Yea good point

I think he could be valuable like prust. In the sense that he will protect teammates. He jumped off the bench earlier this year to engage in rough stuff this year for cryin out loud.

I got my jam I looking for
- Slimtj100

This is a good trade. Rangers got back a piece they gave away last summer. He goes to the net and does the dirty work. I approve.

agreed, but he's not quality, he has 0 goals. He is on the decline and not worth what we paid at all.
- mrhattrick27

Clowe, Richards, Gaborik

Can we call that the decline line?

His job isn't going to be to score goals though. If you are going to judge the trade on goals then yea you will most likely be disappointed .

Just watch what his presence does to the lineup. What is the one thing we have said all season. This team looks dead, no battle, where is the energy? I think he brings that important emotion aspect to the room that sparks this team. And on the top of that, while he has no goals this year, he has scored over 15 goals 5 times in his career. He can score.

Maybe its me, but I would rather have Clowe bring some life to this lineup then the 2 2nd round picks. Yea he could blow up in our faces, o well...I think this type of move is worth the risk.
- TPC

Yes sir!

agreed, but he's not quality, he has 0 goals. He is on the decline and not worth what we paid at all.
- mrhattrick27

Because of 28 games? remember gaby 2 seasons ago and the turn around last year. Players slump. He has size, toughness and has scored 20-50 a few times. Pain in the ass to play against. Half the league doesn't show interest in players that suck

This is a good trade. Rangers got back a piece they gave away last summer. He goes to the net and does the dirty work. I approve.
- Nomad91

You see shark games all the time I bet? His value isn't goal scoring right? He's an intangible player from what I know...

agreed, but he's not quality, he has 0 goals. He is on the decline and not worth what we paid at all.
- mrhattrick27

You can look at one year of tons of good NHL players and if that's all you look at you would say he sucks. But then you see he bounces back the next year. Just because he has 0 goals this year does not mean he sucks. He's having a bad year. His track record and age suggest he can still be a solid NHL player and he adds toughness. I don't know how many times I've read complaints from people saying the Rangers have no heart because one of their guys gets roughed up and no one responds. This guy will respond.

Why is every players value gotta based on goals? I don't get it. Prust wasn't based on goals. Fedetenkos wasn't. Guys like clowe do things other the score.
- Slimtj100

Prust has four goals this season but he's credited with helping that team go from non-playoff squad to Northeast Division leaders solely because of his toughness.

2 2nd round picks, is that even a question? Sorry if I sound like Richard im just pissed. He has 0 goals. He sucks right now.
- mrhattrick27

Your post before was really good. With that being said, the percentages say that if you get one Ryane Clowe out of two second rounders and one third rounder, you are doing pretty well. Plus, they'll get something for Pyatt, and if Clowe re-signs that means that Boyle's $1.8 million will not be here next year -- likely traded for draft picks.

Yeh, the 0 goals is almost humorous with the struggles this team has had this year, but he has scored in the past, he's big, he's mean, and he adds some piss and vinegar that is lacking with this team. I just wish Dan Boyle was coming with him.

I still think he Rangers need to add a defender if Staal isn't coming back soon.

Prust has four goals this season but he's credited with helping that team go from non-playoff squad to Northeast Division leaders solely because of his toughness.
- gkmkiller

The Rangers need this type of player, and they went out and got it. Obviously, it may have been better just to re-sign Prust in the first place, but that ship has sailed.

You see shark games all the time I bet? His value isn't goal scoring right? He's an intangible player from what I know...
- Slimtj100

I am from New York originally, but I do have a friend who abandoned the islanders to become a sharks fan so Ive watched them more often than the average new yorker. We will enjoy Clowe for many of the reasons we enjoyed Prust. Not quite as good a skater though.

The Rangers need this type of player, and they went out and got it. Obviously, it may have been better just to re-sign Prust in the first place, but that ship has sailed.
- Pete V

Yea it will ease his loss hopefully.

Is trade official yet and is he playing tomorrow?