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MannySilvers
New Jersey Devils
Location: ROCK LAND, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

Apr 1 @ 9:59 PM ET
Also, my biggest fear is the whole season coming down to the last game against the Rangers, ala Rangers-Flyers in 2010. I wouldn't be able to deal with that stress
dmarsden2988
New Jersey Devils
Location: stafford is about equal to rya, NJ
Joined: 03.07.2011

Apr 1 @ 10:03 PM ET
I'm generally in favor of DeBoer's calm attitude, but at a certain point as a coach he has to step up and demand accountability. These last 3 games were all against teams we should beat at a point in the season where we need wins and they haven't pulled through. Send a message, do something! As much as we all joke around it isn't by any means too late for this team, we're in 7th right now, if we can just win on a somewhat consistant basis for the next 3 weeks we'll get in the playoffs, and if last year proved anything it's that once you're in, anything can happen.
- MannySilvers


and now we have a pretty hard schedule

boston hasnt played well lately but well they have the devils number and we suck more than the panthers recently


im doubting we make the playoffs at this rate
MartysBetter88
New Jersey Devils
Location: 94Nevermore, NJ
Joined: 07.01.2010

Apr 1 @ 10:05 PM ET
I'm generally in favor of DeBoer's calm attitude, but at a certain point as a coach he has to step up and demand accountability. These last 3 games were all against teams we should beat at a point in the season where we need wins and they haven't pulled through. Send a message, do something! As much as we all joke around it isn't by any means too late for this team, we're in 7th right now, if we can just win on a somewhat consistant basis for the next 3 weeks we'll get in the playoffs, and if last year proved anything it's that once you're in, anything can happen.
- MannySilvers

We're 1 more loss and a rags and islanders win from being 9th. I agree with whoever that said clarksons gotta still be hampered from an injury a few months ago. Elias can only hit glass and posts and has a knack for counting rafters after every shot towards the net. It's just depressing that were so inept. We need kovy. Losing Parise for nothing kills. Hope Boucher is ready to mogilny next year.
MannySilvers
New Jersey Devils
Location: ROCK LAND, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

Apr 1 @ 10:06 PM ET
and now we have a pretty hard schedule

boston hasnt played well lately but well they have the devils number and we suck more than the panthers recently


im doubting we make the playoffs at this rate

- dmarsden2988


At the same time for the last few years the Devils have been doing that awkward thing where they seem to play much better against better teams, so in a weird way that might play to our advantage. Outside of us simply playing better, I feel us making the playoffs come down to two things: How consistant the Rangers and Islanders play and how long Kovy is out.
MartysBetter88
New Jersey Devils
Location: 94Nevermore, NJ
Joined: 07.01.2010

Apr 1 @ 10:10 PM ET
I feel like losing Parise set us back 2 years while we wait for kids to come into their own. Imagine a mature group of Boucher, Merrill, Larsson, Loktionov, Henrique, gelinas, Matteau. That's half a team right there. Add Zajac, kovy, Greene, fayne, cbgb and maybe an old elias, we have a decent roster. Freaking Parise.
MannySilvers
New Jersey Devils
Location: ROCK LAND, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

Apr 1 @ 10:14 PM ET
I feel like losing Parise set us back 2 years while we wait for kids to come into their own. Imagine a mature group of Boucher, Merrill, Larsson, Loktionov, Henrique, gelinas, Matteau. That's half a team right there. Add Zajac, kovy, Greene, fayne, cbgb and maybe an old elias, we have a decent roster. Freaking Parise.
- MartysBetter88


I really have to hand it to Lou, while everyone for years has been saying that we'd be terrible once Marty retires, Lou has done a fantastic job building a bright future while still keeping the team competitive. The only position as of right now I'm a little concerned about is in goal, but in Lou we trust...
shvingter88
New Jersey Devils
Location: Puljujarvi makes draisitil and mcdavid better, CT
Joined: 10.12.2009

Apr 1 @ 10:28 PM ET
I really have to hand it to Lou, while everyone for years has been saying that we'd be terrible once Marty retires, Lou has done a fantastic job building a bright future while still keeping the team competitive. The only position as of right now I'm a little concerned about is in goal, but in Lou we trust...
- MannySilvers

Wedgewood
MannySilvers
New Jersey Devils
Location: ROCK LAND, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

Apr 1 @ 10:34 PM ET
Wedgewood
- shvingter88


Hope so. I just feel with goalies it's so unpredictable how they'll pan out.
Rseen
New Jersey Devils
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 08.30.2012

Apr 1 @ 10:36 PM ET
Move one of the D men. A-train, Tallinder, or Salvador. Don't care who. Don't care for what. Just do it.
Rseen
New Jersey Devils
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 08.30.2012

Apr 1 @ 10:36 PM ET
I feel like losing Parise set us back 2 years while we wait for kids to come into their own. Imagine a mature group of Boucher, Merrill, Larsson, Loktionov, Henrique, gelinas, Matteau. That's half a team right there. Add Zajac, kovy, Greene, fayne, cbgb and maybe an old elias, we have a decent roster. Freaking Parise.
- MartysBetter88

Hurts to lose your best player.
dmarsden2988
New Jersey Devils
Location: stafford is about equal to rya, NJ
Joined: 03.07.2011

Apr 1 @ 11:01 PM ET
I really have to hand it to Lou, while everyone for years has been saying that we'd be terrible once Marty retires, Lou has done a fantastic job building a bright future while still keeping the team competitive. The only position as of right now I'm a little concerned about is in goal, but in Lou we trust...
- MannySilvers


i would def say our offense is a course for concern, pretty big one
MartysBetter88
New Jersey Devils
Location: 94Nevermore, NJ
Joined: 07.01.2010

Apr 2 @ 12:17 AM ET
i would def say our offense is a course for concern, pretty big one
- dmarsden2988


BOUCHER! Loktionov! Henrique! Matteau! do I even add Josefson or Tedenby to the list?
the potential is there. .. will they be more than 2nd/3rd liners? we'll see... at least its something tho. and we have Kovy for the next 50 years so we're good.
dmarsden2988
New Jersey Devils
Location: stafford is about equal to rya, NJ
Joined: 03.07.2011

Apr 2 @ 12:28 AM ET
BOUCHER! Loktionov! Henrique! Matteau! do I even add Josefson or Tedenby to the list?
the potential is there. .. will they be more than 2nd/3rd liners? we'll see... at least its something tho. and we have Kovy for the next 50 years so we're good.

- MartysBetter88


boucher is a big ? mark, lots of players have scored tons in juniors but cant translate it in to the nhl

lokti looks good but can he be consistent?

matteau will be good but wont put up big numbers

josefson hasnt really shown offense

tedenby needs to find his game and who knows if he will, he has speed and skill but he hasnt shown production and cant find he way to 1st line in albany let alone find a way to stay with the big club


other than that who is there?
MartysBetter88
New Jersey Devils
Location: 94Nevermore, NJ
Joined: 07.01.2010

Apr 2 @ 12:53 AM ET
boucher is a big ? mark, lots of players have scored tons in juniors but cant translate it in to the nhl

lokti looks good but can he be consistent?

matteau will be good but wont put up big numbers

josefson hasnt really shown offense

tedenby needs to find his game and who knows if he will, he has speed and skill but he hasnt shown production and cant find he way to 1st line in albany let alone find a way to stay with the big club


other than that who is there?

- dmarsden2988

It's true, were doomed.
rmdevil313
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Your a (frank)ing fag and I hope you get crippled- Cranny, MN
Joined: 01.05.2009

Apr 2 @ 2:17 AM ET
boucher is a big ? mark, lots of players have scored tons in juniors but cant translate it in to the nhl

lokti looks good but can he be consistent?

matteau will be good but wont put up big numbers

josefson hasnt really shown offense

tedenby needs to find his game and who knows if he will, he has speed and skill but he hasnt shown production and cant find he way to 1st line in albany let alone find a way to stay with the big club


other than that who is there?

- dmarsden2988


I like Pietila as a solid bottom 6 forward.
shvingter88
New Jersey Devils
Location: Puljujarvi makes draisitil and mcdavid better, CT
Joined: 10.12.2009

Apr 2 @ 7:51 AM ET
It's true, were doomed.

- MartysBetter88

We're*
FAZOOL
New Jersey Devils
Location: Exit 80, NJ
Joined: 04.30.2012

Apr 2 @ 8:33 AM ET
We should play the next game with no defensemen.
blizzzard
New Jersey Devils
Location: Orillia, ON
Joined: 07.02.2011

Apr 2 @ 8:56 AM ET
We should play the next game with no defensemen.
- FAZOOL

We should not fight if our players are going to embarrass themselves like last night
Roger Mussa
New Jersey Devils
Location: Hell, NJ
Joined: 07.26.2006

Apr 2 @ 9:25 AM ET
Do you think the Devils would do this trade with the Canucks?

To New Jersey:
Luongo, Raymond, + 1st Round Pick

To Vancouver:
Clarkson & Fayne

Brodeur is retiring and Luongo would do well in New Jersey. Raymond replaces some of Clarkson's offence. New Jersey also gets a 1st Round Pick. Vancouver gets a solid 6th d-man in Fayne to replace Ballard (traded or bought out) and Clarkson who brings some great offence.

Math:
--------

Luongo ($6.7M this year and next; $5.3M cap hit)

Raymond ($2.3M this year; $2.3M cap hit + possible $2M new contract next year) - UFA

Clarkson ($3M this year; $2.7M cap hit + possibly a $4.5M new contract next year) - UFA

Fayne ($1.2M this year, $1.4 next year; $1.3M cap hit)

Vancouver Cap Hit Post-Trade:
$4M this year; $5.8M possible next year

New Jersey Cap Hit Post-Trade:
$7.6M this year; $7.3M possible next year

Does this sound reasonable?

- canuck_fan_in_t.o.

YES!
BUT... Schneider is who we want. Keep the pick.
TheJerseyDevil1
New Jersey Devils
Location: Brick City, NJ
Joined: 10.05.2011

Apr 2 @ 9:33 AM ET
Wedgewood
- shvingter88


Bust.
shvingter88
New Jersey Devils
Location: Puljujarvi makes draisitil and mcdavid better, CT
Joined: 10.12.2009

Apr 2 @ 9:34 AM ET
Bust.
- TheJerseyDevil1

can't wait
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