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rmdevil313
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Your a (frank)ing fag and I hope you get crippled- Cranny, MN
Joined: 01.05.2009

Apr 1 @ 4:43 PM ET
Roger,

I think the perfect trading partner would be the oilers

a Hemsky for clarkson(and a signed extention) could be the bases of a deal I would argue (as i am a oilers fan) that we should get a little somthing extra due to the fact that Hemsky has put up good numbers when he was on some really bad teams.

Perhaps even expand the deal to include Ryan Whitney as the devils look like they could use a PP QB.

- Oilers rock 99


Every oilers fans proposal includes Hemsky and Whitney. They must be good players. We'll give you our good players, Tallinder and Tedenby.
blizzzard
New Jersey Devils
Location: Orillia, ON
Joined: 07.02.2011

Apr 1 @ 4:45 PM ET
Every oilers fans proposal includes Hemsky and Whitney. They must be good players. We'll give you our good players, Tallinder and Tedenby.
- rmdevil313

Hasnt he heard we just traded clarkson for cory schnieder
Gambi99
New Jersey Devils
Location: NY
Joined: 07.09.2007

Apr 1 @ 5:14 PM ET
Roger,

I think the perfect trading partner would be the oilers

a Hemsky for clarkson(and a signed extention) could be the bases of a deal I would argue (as i am a oilers fan) that we should get a little somthing extra due to the fact that Hemsky has put up good numbers when he was on some really bad teams.

Perhaps even expand the deal to include Ryan Whitney as the devils look like they could use a PP QB.

- Oilers rock 99


I would rather have Paajarvi
MrToast
New Jersey Devils
Location: Space, YT
Joined: 06.27.2012

Apr 1 @ 5:19 PM ET
I would rather have Paajarvi
- Gambi99

Yeah, we could play him with Josefson and Tedenby for the underachieving Swede line.
BarryB1124
New Jersey Devils
Location: Bronx, NY
Joined: 03.11.2007

Apr 1 @ 5:21 PM ET
Personally I think Clarkson is banged up. I remember a game around the 20 game mark where he got knocked down or into the boards or something and he got up very gingerly. And he appeared shaken up. And whatever the case he has not been the same since. Now I think it says something that Clarkson does not have that extra gear if he does get hurt, but still. He looked so much better balanced on his skates and willing to absorb contact to make a play in the first 20 games than he has in the last 15.
shvingter88
New Jersey Devils
Location: Puljujarvi makes draisitil and mcdavid better, CT
Joined: 10.12.2009

Apr 1 @ 5:41 PM ET
Personally I think Clarkson is banged up. I remember a game around the 20 game mark where he got knocked down or into the boards or something and he got up very gingerly. And he appeared shaken up. And whatever the case he has not been the same since. Now I think it says something that Clarkson does not have that extra gear if he does get hurt, but still. He looked so much better balanced on his skates and willing to absorb contact to make a play in the first 20 games than he has in the last 15.
- BarryB1124

He was checked in front of the net and his back hit the post pretty badly
TheJerseyDevil1
New Jersey Devils
Location: Brick City, NJ
Joined: 10.05.2011

Apr 1 @ 6:04 PM ET
Every oilers fans proposal includes Hemsky and Whitney. They must be good players. We'll give you our good players, Tallinder and Tedenby.
- rmdevil313

Rseen
New Jersey Devils
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 08.30.2012

Apr 1 @ 6:18 PM ET
Roger,

I think the perfect trading partner would be the oilers

a Hemsky for clarkson(and a signed extention) could be the bases of a deal I would argue (as i am a oilers fan) that we should get a little somthing extra due to the fact that Hemsky has put up good numbers when he was on some really bad teams.

Perhaps even expand the deal to include Ryan Whitney as the devils look like they could use a PP QB.

- Oilers rock 99

Oilers would add...No we don't want Whitney.
Thehabsfan93
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.17.2011

Apr 1 @ 6:38 PM ET
Wouldn't mind him in a Habs jersey.
rmdevil313
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Your a (frank)ing fag and I hope you get crippled- Cranny, MN
Joined: 01.05.2009

Apr 1 @ 7:15 PM ET
"We're doing some nice things...."
canuck_fan_in_t.o.
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 06.16.2009

Apr 1 @ 7:16 PM ET
Do you think the Devils would do this trade with the Canucks?

To New Jersey:
Luongo, Raymond, + 1st Round Pick

To Vancouver:
Clarkson & Fayne

Brodeur is retiring and Luongo would do well in New Jersey. Raymond replaces some of Clarkson's offence. New Jersey also gets a 1st Round Pick. Vancouver gets a solid 6th d-man in Fayne to replace Ballard (traded or bought out) and Clarkson who brings some great offence.

Math:
--------

Luongo ($6.7M this year and next; $5.3M cap hit)

Raymond ($2.3M this year; $2.3M cap hit + possible $2M new contract next year) - UFA

Clarkson ($3M this year; $2.7M cap hit + possibly a $4.5M new contract next year) - UFA

Fayne ($1.2M this year, $1.4 next year; $1.3M cap hit)

Vancouver Cap Hit Post-Trade:
$4M this year; $5.8M possible next year

New Jersey Cap Hit Post-Trade:
$7.6M this year; $7.3M possible next year

Does this sound reasonable?
Jeffrey7146
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.15.2008

Apr 1 @ 7:20 PM ET
Do you think the Devils would do this trade with the Canucks?

To New Jersey:
Luongo, Raymond, + 1st Round Pick

To Vancouver:
Clarkson & Fayne

Brodeur is retiring and Luongo would do well in New Jersey. Raymond replaces some of Clarkson's offence. New Jersey also gets a 1st Round Pick. Vancouver gets a solid 6th d-man in Fayne to replace Ballard (traded or bought out) and Clarkson who brings some great offence.

Math:
--------

Luongo ($6.7M this year and next; $5.3M cap hit)

Raymond ($2.3M this year; $2.3M cap hit + possible $2M new contract next year) - UFA

Clarkson ($3M this year; $2.7M cap hit + possibly a $4.5M new contract next year) - UFA

Fayne ($1.2M this year, $1.4 next year; $1.3M cap hit)

Vancouver Cap Hit Post-Trade:
$4M this year; $5.8M possible next year

New Jersey Cap Hit Post-Trade:
$7.6M this year; $7.3M possible next year

Does this sound reasonable?

- canuck_fan_in_t.o.


Please Call your GM. And tell him to call Lou.
rmdevil313
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Your a (frank)ing fag and I hope you get crippled- Cranny, MN
Joined: 01.05.2009

Apr 1 @ 7:21 PM ET
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canuck_fan_in_t.o.
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 06.16.2009

Apr 1 @ 7:33 PM ET
Please Call your GM. And tell him to call Lou.
- Jeffrey7146


I take it you like that deal? I think Gillis would do this deal, but he might switch the 1st rounder for a2nd. Would you still do the deal?
shvingter88
New Jersey Devils
Location: Puljujarvi makes draisitil and mcdavid better, CT
Joined: 10.12.2009

Apr 1 @ 7:38 PM ET
I take it you like that deal? I think Gillis would do this deal, but he might switch the 1st rounder for a2nd. Would you still do the deal?
- canuck_fan_in_t.o.

A luongo Brodeur duo would be sick next season
Jeffrey7146
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.15.2008

Apr 1 @ 8:01 PM ET
I take it you like that deal? I think Gillis would do this deal, but he might switch the 1st rounder for a2nd. Would you still do the deal?
- canuck_fan_in_t.o.

1st!
archromat
Location: Moncton, NB
Joined: 01.16.2012

Apr 1 @ 8:55 PM ET
With all the overpayment going on, Clarkson should definitely be moved.
MartysBetter88
New Jersey Devils
Location: 94Nevermore, NJ
Joined: 07.01.2010

Apr 1 @ 9:16 PM ET
We're a joke. The d shows its age, both the old and the young. The offense has way too many of the same players.. Dags, poni, Clarkson.. A trio of mediocrity. And Zubrus won't be 100% for a few months? We're doomed. Elias can't finish to save his life. Bernier and Zajac are our most useful forwards, and who knows when Zajac falls off. Loktionov puts up points every now and then but not a very complete player. Where's Henrique? We're pathetic. Marty and his rebounds and 40 year old 2nd attempt goals against. Dark times in New Jersey.
dmarsden2988
New Jersey Devils
Location: stafford is about equal to rya, NJ
Joined: 03.07.2011

Apr 1 @ 9:19 PM ET
trade the whole team

utterly pathetic


prob wouldnt get a single 3rd for the whole team at this point
dmarsden2988
New Jersey Devils
Location: stafford is about equal to rya, NJ
Joined: 03.07.2011

Apr 1 @ 9:33 PM ET
can we trade tallinder, volchenkov, zidlicky, whoever for as much as we can


we are not making the playoffs
MartysBetter88
New Jersey Devils
Location: 94Nevermore, NJ
Joined: 07.01.2010

Apr 1 @ 9:40 PM ET
We have no scorers, one passer in Elias, 3 energy guys in cbgb, and the rest of the team all does the same thing- skate around, get beat, and no production.
MannySilvers
New Jersey Devils
Location: ROCK LAND, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

Apr 1 @ 9:45 PM ET
We're quickly becoming this year's Leafs. Great start, then slowly crumble out of the playoffs.

What this last stretch has proven to me is how important Kovy is to this team not just as its best player but as its leader. Once Marty came back I really felt like we turned a corner and would be solid the rest of the season, then Kovy goes down and we're sinking again.

Kovy and Marty are the leaders of this team. Salvador has shown me nothing this season. I still don't get why he has the C. If they really are just buying time until Henrique can have it they should have just dealt out 3 A's or given it to Marty or something.
dmarsden2988
New Jersey Devils
Location: stafford is about equal to rya, NJ
Joined: 03.07.2011

Apr 1 @ 9:48 PM ET
We're quickly becoming this year's Leafs. Great start, then slowly crumble out of the playoffs.

What this last stretch has proven to me is how important Kovy is to this team not just as its best player but as its leader. Once Marty came back I really felt like we turned a corner and would be solid the rest of the season, then Kovy goes down and we're sinking again.

Kovy and Marty are the leaders of this team. Salvador has shown me nothing this season. I still don't get why he has the C. If they really are just buying time until Henrique can have it they should have just dealt out 3 A's or given it to Marty or something.

- MannySilvers


they need to take the C away from sal but they dont have the balls, they will say its a team sport etc, yeah well he is the leader, all he is leading is a sinking ship and how to skate in quicksand 101
dmarsden2988
New Jersey Devils
Location: stafford is about equal to rya, NJ
Joined: 03.07.2011

Apr 1 @ 9:53 PM ET
We have no scorers, one passer in Elias, 3 energy guys in cbgb, and the rest of the team all does the same thing- skate around, get beat, and no production.
- MartysBetter88


Lou has tried to go the same way as the bruins, where they are a team of depth, but it doesnt help if all you do is cycle it behind the net with no one in front and pass it to the point where we dont have a dman with a good shot.........works with the bruins who have chara

we are a team full of forwards who are "good" along the boards, but other than that well they cant do poop
MannySilvers
New Jersey Devils
Location: ROCK LAND, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

Apr 1 @ 9:53 PM ET
they need to take the C away from sal but they dont have the balls, they will say its a team sport etc, yeah well he is the leader, all he is leading is a sinking ship and how to skate in quicksand 101
- dmarsden2988


I'm generally in favor of DeBoer's calm attitude, but at a certain point as a coach he has to step up and demand accountability. These last 3 games were all against teams we should beat at a point in the season where we need wins and they haven't pulled through. Send a message, do something! As much as we all joke around it isn't by any means too late for this team, we're in 7th right now, if we can just win on a somewhat consistant basis for the next 3 weeks we'll get in the playoffs, and if last year proved anything it's that once you're in, anything can happen.
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