who said they were the same?
- Habitants98

He is turning into Pronger - habitants98

The list, written by Allan Muir, does not appear to be based on a survey or poll but is rather a subjective ranking of
- Oilhab

ya racist

Stop making me work.
- hscesq

Define the levels of hate, and what one must do to obtain each level.

Oh wait I read your post, so you think PK is only hated because he is black, and that level is the same level as the dirty but respected player level of hate.

But please still define the other levels of hate.
- Oilhab

i think the levels you are hated are shown when a poll is made and you find yourself at the top of the league PK is hated because he is apparently a diver some hate him (ignorant fans) simply for who he is, Pronger was hated for being dirty but was often found near or at the top of the most hated polls, these 2 both play D and at an elite level, both commanding respect even if hated, due to their talent level

somehow its shocking that these 2 would be compared in these regards

I don't see the fit.
Detroit however....
- stormey

Indeed, indeed

I don't see the fit.
Detroit however....
- stormey

Help on the powerplay?

Yeah. They still have the assets they were ready to trade for Morrow and Iginla, so I don't see any other team matching their offer.
- _nay_

Pretty sure teams could match the offer they made for Iginla.

He is turning into Pronger - habitants98
- Oilhab

does that say they are the same or does that say he is turning into pronger, furthermore does that state what reason he is turning into pronger? because i'm pretty sure as ive said originally that i felt this way simply because despite being hated that much they both command respect due to their skill

hence the comparison is quite valid


but go on

i think the levels you are hated are shown when a poll is made and you find yourself at the top of the league PK is hated because he is apparently a diver some hate him (ignorant fans) simply for who he is, Pronger was hated for being dirty but was often found near or at the top of the most hated polls, these 2 both play D and at an elite level, both commanding respect even if hated, due to their talent level

somehow its shocking that these 2 would be compared in these regards
- Habitants98

Link to these polls, the PK one and the Pronger one

as for the last bit, they are not compared because they are hated for different reasons

Yeah. They still have the assets they were ready to trade for Morrow and Iginla, so I don't see any other team matching their offer.
- _nay_

Habs passed on him for free - can't see them trading 4 him.

does that say they are the same or does that say he is turning into pronger, furthermore does that state what reason he is turning into pronger? because i'm pretty sure as ive said originally that i felt this way simply because despite being hated that much they both command respect due to their skill

hence the comparison is quite valid


but go on
- Habitants98

Can't believe you're still being misunderstood....you're really good at this.

Link ?
- WaterBoy

sorry no link for you

Link to these polls, the PK one and the Pronger one

as for the last bit, they are not compared because they are hated for different reasons
- Oilhab

Very interesting debate here.

Habs passed on him for free - can't see them trading 4 him.
- AGalchenyuk27

They get only ½ the cap hit...and he proved he can still compete.

does that say they are the same or does that say he is turning into pronger, furthermore does that state what reason he is turning into pronger? because i'm pretty sure as ive said originally that i felt this way simply because despite being hated that much they both command respect due to their skill

hence the comparison is quite valid


but go on
- Habitants98

How do you turn into someone, and not be the same as that someone? If they are not the same then they are not turning into that person.

Why does logic escape you? You are turning into a T-dot

Can't believe you're still being misunderstood....you're really good at this.
- BashCH

Betcha he'd pay to watch a game at your place too.

Very interesting debate here.
- Le_Moderateur

Very interesting debate here.
- Le_Moderateur

Not interesting. But very entertaining.

sorry no link for you
- Habitants98

provided and it's not a poll just 1 guy on SI's opinion list, Allen Muir.

Ur theory is now shot to hell.

Habs passed on him for free - can't see them trading 4 him.
- AGalchenyuk27

$4,550,000 is hardly free.

And Bourque is still not playing.

Betcha he'd pay to watch a game at your place too.
- hscesq

Nice, but I only charge for PPVs.

The list, written by Allan Muir, does not appear to be based on a survey or poll but is rather a subjective ranking of
- Oilhab

well than if its not a legitimate poll i suppose i can't compare them huh, although something tells me that based on player interviews i think you'd still find Subby at the top or near it if an official one is made

Help on the powerplay?
- Pecafan Fan

He would help any team on the Powerplay but he's always played on finesse teams with finesse players. Boston doesn't really fit the mode.
He isn't fast enought to skate with Bergeron and Seguin. So that leaves the Lucic line.....just don't see that working for some reason.

Pretty sure teams could match the offer they made for Iginla.
- stormey

Yeah, but they ready to trade their 1st, so they'll probably shop it to get the best return possible, and that could be Jagr.

$4,550,000 is hardly free.

And Bourque is still not playing.
- Pecafan Fan

well now they have to trade assets for him hence the "free" comment. I know they pay him ffs.