The NHL is moving this direction. They'll make shields mandatory in the next couple of seasons. I also think they'll ween out fighting, unfortunately. Making shields mandatory and adding the shield-instigator penalty is just the start.
- BuffaJoe

Sorry don´t ever see the NHLPA allowing it....not as long as Don Cherry is alive

I never told you not to post your opinion....I only responded to why the full cage is not used....I am sorry was I being to forceful with you? Did I say you can´t post here?

Same old....
- toddkac

No, but you said "deal with it" and "time to join society and realize..."

Neither of which imply that you want to converse about it, or even listen to my opinion.

You wanted me to "deal with" the fact that I was wrong or that the nhlpa didn't agree with me or whatever.

Obtuse means difficult to understand.

When I said it i did imply that you were intentionally being difficult, but I suppose that's unfair to me.

However I said several times that your point wasn't clear to me. You continued to give vague statements and post pictures that didn't exactly help me see where you were coming from, so at the time it did seem like you were intentionally being difficult.

Obvious thats impossible for me to say, so I apologize for that.
- Putzfrau

Yeah you obtuse son of a female dog!

I'm saying how is the game better without at least half cages?

What about a quarterback?

Why is the opinion always "nooooo cages will ruin hockey!"

I fail to see how it would have that big of a difference
- Putzfrau

Half shields im all for. Full cages no.

Ask any NHL player they would never want full cages. They lose the puck more in their feet cant see it as well. If you ask a bar league player its more macho for them and they wouldnt be able to tell the difference but ask a proffesional and they would be effected immediately.

Scoring is an issue in this league if your best players are uncomfortable and cant get a good feel because of a cage you are probably looking at a 10% drop in scoring

Yeah you obtuse son of a female dog!



- dadeadhead

Sorry don´t ever see the NHLPA allowing it....not as long as Don Cherry is alive

- toddkac

Cherry has no real pull with the league, and I don't want them to get rid of it, but mark my words, there will be a day where fighting is taken out of hockey, and I don't think it's as far off as many people want to think. In fact, I'll go out on a limb here and say it happens under Buttman.

Sabres Front office ‏@SabresFront 1m
We will see. Kings dont have a 1st and sabres are interested in toff RT @afabo: @SabresFront Toffoli?


I know we need to disregard this because of who the tweeter is but just for conversation sake.

I would make this deal of course.
- BuffaloHardHat

That guy is SabresCup2012... I swear.

Yeah you obtuse son of a female dog!



- dadeadhead

Wasn't Obtuse the name of an old wooden ship?

Wasn't Obtuse the name of an old wooden ship?
- BuffaloKyle

Why, was it difficult to steer?

No, but you said "deal with it" and "time to join society and realize..."

Neither of which imply that you want to converse about it, or even listen to my opinion.

You wanted me to "deal with" the fact that I was wrong or that the nhlpa didn't agree with me or whatever.
- Putzfrau

why are you being so obtuse. There is no discussion because the NHLPA doesn´t want it. If you want to debate then debate about something debatible...

Half shields im all for. Full cages no.

Ask any NHL player they would never want full cages. They lose the puck more in their feet cant see it as well. If you ask a bar league player its more macho for them and they wouldnt be able to tell the difference but ask a proffesional and they would be effected immediately.

Scoring is an issue in this league if your best players are uncomfortable and cant get a good feel because of a cage you are probably looking at a 10% drop in scoring
- Stripes77

Fair enough. What about the next generation when players are used to it?

Or is it just cages are always bad and will always be bad.

I understand how changing something so drastically could have an effect at first, but it seems like it would correct itself after a while.

There is also other things they could do to affect scoring, if they wanted to counteract the cages.

Why, was it difficult to steer?
- dadeadhead

Precisely..
Roads.. Where we're going.. we dont need roads..

why are you being so obtuse. There is no discussion because the NHLPA doesn´t want it. If you want to debate then debate about something debatible...
- toddkac

And this is why I had an issue.

You're just being a Richard at this point.

Fair enough. What about the next generation when players are used to it?

Or is it just cages are always bad and will always be bad.

I understand how changing something so drastically could have an effect at first, but it seems like it would correct itself after a while.

There is also other things they could do to affect scoring, if they wanted to counteract the cages.
- Putzfrau

have you ever worn a cage? Real question....

That guy is SabresCup2012... I swear.
- JVince11

Eh, you may be right bro. Yea I just put it up for conversation sake is all.

have you ever worn a cage? Real question....
- toddkac

Yes.

We don't have to admit anything

Sabres> Jackets

#denial

I'm doin the hash tag thing today, thoughts?
- sbroads24

Throwing out this season who makes the playoffs first, Sabres or Blue Jackets? They both are in tough divisions and only 2 wild card spots out of the rest of the 10 teams elibible for playoffs.

And this is why I had an issue.

You're just being a Richard at this point.
- Putzfrau

I am an obtuse richard

So much for intelligent debating

We don't have to admit anything

Sabres> Jackets

#denial

I'm doin the hash tag thing today, thoughts?
- sbroads24

#soundsawesome

I am an obtuse richard

So much for intelligent debating
- toddkac

You're mocking me in every post. How was that every intelligent?

Throwing out this season who makes the playoffs first, Sabres or Blue Jackets? They both are in tough divisions and only 2 wild card spots out of the rest of the 10 teams elibible for playoffs.
- buffalokb

Sabres... by a landslide...

Yes.
- Putzfrau

Damn I thought you were a woman for sure....wait ringette?

This thread has been hijacked by a four page debate on players wearing cages.

Can we get back to imaginary trades and complaining about Darcy?

have you ever worn a cage? Real question....
- toddkac

Only Nicolas Cage..