All I can tell you is why I think the Flyers made this move, and added him to the roster. I can assure you that being down by 2 goals in the 3rd period, the Flyers would rather have Voracek available to play, rather then sitting in the penalty box. There's lots of ways to play with passion. I didn't see the game, I just read about it. But a player standing up for his teammate can definitely inspire a team. And you want players playing with passion. I agree 100% with you there. But they want a player like Rosehill in case a game breaks down, or they need to provide a physical presence in case any shenanigans are going on. And other teams are targeting the Flyers top players. Other then one of the more important players.
- MJL

I agree with all you say ... except I actually can't envision Lavy putting Rosehill in the lineup if there is another option.

Lavy seems like the kind of coach who would prefer a Wellwood-type of player, so he can roll 4 lines without thinking about it.

I still think it has more to do with cap space and contract slot than the toughness thing, but that might have played a role in who they picked up. Main goal seems like swapping Z's contract for one that expires at the end of the year.
- BringBack25

agreed.

I still think it has more to do with cap space and contract slot than the toughness thing, but that might have played a role in who they picked up. Main goal seems like swapping Z's contract for one that expires at the end of the year.
- BringBack25

Harry Z's contract expires at the end of the year. And they could've gotten future considerations, or a 7th round pick or something instead of Rosehill. This is about Giroux being targeted the last few games and taking some big hits.

All I can tell you is why I think the Flyers made this move, and added him to the roster. I can assure you that being down by 2 goals in the 3rd period, the Flyers would rather have Voracek available to play, rather then sitting in the penalty box. There's lots of ways to play with passion. I didn't see the game, I just read about it. But a player standing up for his teammate can definitely inspire a team. And you want players playing with passion. I agree 100% with you there. But they want a player like Rosehill in case a game breaks down, or they need to provide a physical presence in case any shenanigans are going on. And other teams are targeting the Flyers top players. Other then one of the more important players.
- MJL

I believe this entire situation is being overblown. Giroux was hit with a clean check and it was not the right decision by Voracek for fighting with the game tied in the third period.

Adding Rosehill does nothing imo.

All I can tell you is why I think the Flyers made this move, and added him to the roster. I can assure you that being down by 2 goals in the 3rd period, the Flyers would rather have Voracek available to play, rather then sitting in the penalty box. There's lots of ways to play with passion. I didn't see the game, I just read about it. But a player standing up for his teammate can definitely inspire a team. And you want players playing with passion. I agree 100% with you there. But they want a player like Rosehill in case a game breaks down, or they need to provide a physical presence in case any shenanigans are going on. And other teams are targeting the Flyers top players. Other then one of the more important players.
- MJL

Agreed.

Here's the hit...and toward the end, you can see 93's beelining toward the hitter. G was put in a vulnerable position by a pass. I'm glad he walked away from it uninjured, cause it could have been worse

http://video.nhl.com/vide...atid=35&id=233207&lang=en

I agree with all you say ... except I actually can't envision Lavy putting Rosehill in the lineup if there is another option.

Lavy seems like the kind of coach who would prefer a Wellwood-type of player, so he can roll 4 lines without thinking about it.
- FlyerGuy

I would think so also. I really don't know much about Rosehill. If he can actually play a little, or if he's just a fighter.

Harry Z's contract expires at the end of the year. And they could've gotten future considerations, or a 7th round pick or something instead of Rosehill. This is about Giroux being targeted the last few games and taking some big hits.
- MJL

so target a player and make a team trade their young players jesus couldn't we just bring shelley or garretz klotz back to just take punches
hell i bet JS would love to get on the ice and defend giroux

I believe this entire situation is being overblown. Giroux was hit with a clean check and it was not the right decision by Voracek for fighting with the game tied in the third period.

Adding Rosehill does nothing imo.
- stveshdy

He was boarded from behind late in a game this past week and no one did anything.

Zach is fixing his rep. he shouldnt be fighting. Luke Schenn is far too valuable to take off the ice. That doesnt leave many options outside of guys in your top 6, who shouldn't be fighting either.

I believe this entire situation is being overblown. Giroux was hit with a clean check and it was not the right decision by Voracek for fighting with the game tied in the third period.

Adding Rosehill does nothing imo.
- stveshdy

Here's the thing, would you rather Jake - who was up ice and likely didn't see the entire play develop - err on the side of protecting his Captain or do nothing?

Personally, I'm very much in favor of his spontaneous reaction to the situation and the way he perceived the hit.

I would think so also. I really don't know much about Rosehill. If he can actually play a little, or if he's just a fighter.
- MJL

I don't think he'll see much ice time:

http://www.boltprospects.com/jay-rosehill

I assume this is sarcasm? I'm not expecting much. It's really so minor of a move, that it really isn't even worth much discussion.
- MJL

Agreed..

Changing topics, tonight we need regulation wins from NJ, Montreal and Winterpeg..

Go.

I believe this entire situation is being overblown. Giroux was hit with a clean check and it was not the right decision by Voracek for fighting with the game tied in the third period.

Adding Rosehill does nothing imo.
- stveshdy

It's not being overblown. It's just the reason why the Flyers got Rosehill.

so target a player and make a team trade their young players jesus couldn't we just bring shelley or garretz klotz back to just take punches
hell i bet JS would love to get on the ice and defend giroux
- 2Real

This will cause heart attacks sobbing fanbase wide when Harry Z scores a Cup-winning goal in the next two years.

I believe this entire situation is being overblown. Giroux was hit with a clean check and it was not the right decision by Voracek for fighting with the game tied in the third period.

Adding Rosehill does nothing imo.
- stveshdy

Voracek might not have been able to tell if it was a clean check or not(or didn't care).. all he saw was his captain and best player flying onto the ice and sent a message. I don't think clean matters there. As far as the timing there, it could have (and almost did) cost us the game. But again, there wasn't a lot of math going on with the decision, he responded to his captain down.

Agreed..

Changing topics, tonight we need regulation wins from NJ, Montreal and Winterpeg..

Go.
- Hextall271

LET'S GO DEVNADIJETS!

This will cause heart attacks sobbing fanbase wide when Harry Z scores a Cup-winning goal in the next two years.
- Flyskippy

Or when he blows out Giroux's knee on an open ice hit.

Gotta keep him on our roster or no one is safe.

Here's the thing, would you rather Jake - who was up ice and likely didn't see the entire play develop - err on the side of protecting his Captain or do nothing?

Personally, I'm very much in favor of his spontaneous reaction to the situation and the way he perceived the hit.
- wolfhounds

I would prefer Voracek to not fight and take a penalty. He almost cost his team the game with 4:00 penalty on a clean check.

It's not being overblown. It's just the reason why the Flyers got Rosehill.
- MJL

The Flyers would be fine without Rosehill.

I would think so also. I really don't know much about Rosehill. If he can actually play a little, or if he's just a fighter.
- MJL

not sure if he can play, either ... the only thing I saw was him getting his ass kicked by Lucic, Thornton and McGrattan, so his ability as a fighter might be up for debate as well.

the thing is, Lavy never even wanted to play Sestito who could skate and play a bit ... so it's just hard for me to envision a lumbering Rosehill even being in the lineup at any point this year. Maybe I'll be wrong.

"Admirals defenseman Jay D. Rosehill was arrested Friday and charged with stealing a car while his team was on the road. Rosehill, 22, was released on bond from the Broome County Jail on a felony charge of third-degree grand larceny, the Press & Sun-Bulletin newspaper of Bunghamton reported. His release came shortly before the Admirals played the Senators. The Broome County Sheriff's Office said a vehicle had been reported stolen from the parking lot of Madame Oar's, a Binghamton strip club. A club employee said she had started the car and left it to warm up when it was taken. Shortly after the report was made, about 1:25 a.m., a deputy spotted the car pulling into the parking lot of the Xhibition Gentlemen's Club. The deputy said he saw a man, later identified as Rosehill, run from the car, the Press & Sun-Bulletin reported."


Legit?
- shekkie

Sexually violent predator.....check
Grand theft auto......check

Looks like we're missing a drug dealer

Voracek might not have been able to tell if it was a clean check or not(or didn't care).. all he saw was his captain and best player flying onto the ice and sent a message. I don't think clean matters there. As far as the timing there, it could have (and almost did) cost us the game. But again, there wasn't a lot of math going on with the decision, he responded to his captain down.
- mikel33

Still believe it was not a smart decision by Voracek.

Sometimes your captain gets knocked down on a clean check.

The team is tied in the third it was not the right time to fight and take 4 min penalty.

Harry Z's contract expires at the end of the year. And they could've gotten future considerations, or a 7th round pick or something instead of Rosehill. This is about Giroux being targeted the last few games and taking some big hits.
- MJL

Does the fact that Rosehill is a UFA and Harry is an RFA after this year have any bearing? Does it increase they're tagging space or anything?

Full disclosure - I'm not sure I understand how tagging space works so this could be a really dumb question...

Thanks, I've been working really hard at it lately. Wasn't sure I'd really done it (I tend to joke around a lot, so it can be hard to tell). But having you confirm it for me is really very gratifying. And using a personal attack to do it was just icing on the cake. Yep, this is definitely one for the scrapbook!!!

- BringBack25

The personal attacks are flying around on the thread today.

The Flyers would be fine without Rosenhill.
- stveshdy

Good thing we traded for someone else then.

not sure if he can play, either ... the only thing I saw was him getting his ass kicked by Lucic, Thornton and McGrattan, so his ability as a fighter might be up for debate as well.

the thing is, Lavy never even wanted to play Sestito who could skate and play a bit ... so it's just hard for me to envision a lumbering Rosehill even being in the lineup at any point this year. Maybe I'll be wrong.
- FlyerGuy

Agreed.