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Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Apr 1 @ 1:45 PM ET
Homer put Bob in that situation. Bob floundered, so did Laviolette. Just like one playoff round shouldn't have decided Bob's fate, one playoff round shouldn't have put all the blame on Lavi.
- feelingkettle



Homer put both Bob and Lavi in that situation and he set them both up for failure.

How is Bob, a guy who is fresh off the boat, can't speak English, never worked with a goalie coach before, has a shaky/quirky technical foundation, thrust into a situation where he can conceivably win the starting job out of camp on a team with Cup aspirations?

And, as you mentioned, what exactly is Lavi supposed to do when all three goaltenders predictably aren't up to the task at the most critical time of the season? How do you coach yourself out of that quandary?
Philly1980
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.30.2011

Apr 1 @ 1:45 PM ET
JvR's back to his average of just over .5pt/game despite getting 20% more TOI w/ the Leafs and a prime role on the PP. Outside of a couple of hot streaks, there's still no discernible development to his game.
- Tomahawk


Im glad we got Schenn....i would hate to see where this team is today without him...he has more impact on a team then JVR ever would.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Apr 1 @ 1:49 PM ET
Im glad we got Schenn....i would hate to see where this team is today without him...he has more impact on a team then JVR ever would.
- Philly1980

So happy to change the conversation away from Bobs.

I was very impressed with L Schenn this weekend. Solid + play while babysitting the great dane.
five4fighting10
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Cherry Hill, NJ
Joined: 02.22.2008

Apr 1 @ 1:51 PM ET
it's taking everything in my power to hold back from getting into a legit argument with a friend, here are his points:
1. We need to focus on D, so we need Brent Burns.
2. Ryane Clowe would fit perfectly because Hartnell sucks and Simmonds can't do all the fighting.
3. Coots is awful and needs to go. Laughton can handle everything Coots does and he fights.

Someone please get my blood pressure down.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Apr 1 @ 1:52 PM ET
it's taking everything in my power to hold back from getting into a legit argument with a friend, here are his points:
1. We need to focus on D, so we need Brent Burns.
2. Ryane Clowe would fit perfectly because Hartnell sucks and Simmonds can't do all the fighting.
3. Coots is awful and needs to go. Laughton can handle everything Coots does and he fights.

Someone please get my blood pressure down.

- five4fighting10

just walk away
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Apr 1 @ 1:52 PM ET
You like those personal attacks, eh?
- feelingkettle

Oh, c'mon. There were no personal attacks. The horse head comment was about your avatar not your actual head and the speed dial reference was about your lack of logic.
Philly1980
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.30.2011

Apr 1 @ 1:53 PM ET
So happy to change the conversation away from Bobs.

I was very impressed with L Schenn this weekend. Solid + play while babysitting the great dane.

- Marc D


exactly showed me that he can play the same with or without kimmo...great pickup by the flyers.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Apr 1 @ 1:53 PM ET
it's taking everything in my power to hold back from getting into a legit argument with a friend, here are his points:
1. We need to focus on D, so we need Brent Burns.
2. Ryane Clowe would fit perfectly because Hartnell sucks and Simmonds can't do all the fighting.
3. Coots is awful and needs to go. Laughton can handle everything Coots does and he fights.

Someone please get my blood pressure down.

- five4fighting10


Tell him to go back to watching the Phillies.
five4fighting10
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Cherry Hill, NJ
Joined: 02.22.2008

Apr 1 @ 1:53 PM ET
just walk away
- Marc D

it's unbelievable. People like this are so tough to ignore because they think you saying "okay man i'm done" means that you concede that they know more lol ahhh
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Apr 1 @ 1:54 PM ET
Homer put both Bob and Lavi in that situation and he set them both up for failure.

How is Bob, a guy who is fresh off the boat, can't speak English, never worked with a goalie coach before, has a shaky/quirky technical foundation, thrust into a situation where he can conceivably win the starting job out of camp on a team with Cup aspirations?

And, as you mentioned, what exactly is Lavi supposed to do when all three goaltenders predictably aren't up to the task at the most critical time of the season? How do you coach yourself out of that quandary?

- Tomahawk


I'd start with not throwing the goalie who performed the lion's share of the work getting your team into the post-season under the bus and sitting him in the press box because of 1 bad playoff game.

That's all Lavi.

It's no secret that the Flyers are all in on winning the Cup this season, and Bob has been a huge part of the regular season success. He was even great in Game 1, while Game 2 was just a mess all around. It's not as if Bob was any worse than Ryan Miller was in Game 1, yet the two are obviously different animals.

five4fighting10
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Cherry Hill, NJ
Joined: 02.22.2008

Apr 1 @ 1:54 PM ET
Tell him to go back to watching the Phillies.
- Hextall271

Philly1980
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.30.2011

Apr 1 @ 1:54 PM ET
it's taking everything in my power to hold back from getting into a legit argument with a friend, here are his points:
1. We need to focus on D, so we need Brent Burns.
2. Ryane Clowe would fit perfectly because Hartnell sucks and Simmonds can't do all the fighting.
3. Coots is awful and needs to go. Laughton can handle everything Coots does and he fights.

Someone please get my blood pressure down.

- five4fighting10


your friend is a douchebag
shekkie
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Perkasie, PA
Joined: 07.05.2007

Apr 1 @ 1:54 PM ET
it's taking everything in my power to hold back from getting into a legit argument with a friend, here are his points:
1. We need to focus on D, so we need Brent Burns.
2. Ryane Clowe would fit perfectly because Hartnell sucks and Simmonds can't do all the fighting.
3. Coots is awful and needs to go. Laughton can handle everything Coots does and he fights.

Someone please get my blood pressure down.

- five4fighting10


Sometimes murder is the only way to chill out.
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Apr 1 @ 1:55 PM ET
it's taking everything in my power to hold back from getting into a legit argument with a friend, here are his points:
1. We need to focus on D, so we need Brent Burns.
2. Ryane Clowe would fit perfectly because Hartnell sucks and Simmonds can't do all the fighting.
3. Coots is awful and needs to go. Laughton can handle everything Coots does and he fights.

Someone please get my blood pressure down.

- five4fighting10

You need to find better friends.
feelingkettle
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "No sir, I don't like it" Phil, PA
Joined: 11.13.2006

Apr 1 @ 1:55 PM ET
Oh, c'mon. There were no personal attacks. The horse head comment was about your avatar not your actual head and the speed dial reference was about your lack of logic.

- mayorofangrytown

I accept your apology.
FlyersGrace
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Pronger "Play the game puffnuts!" , DE
Joined: 07.02.2012

Apr 1 @ 1:57 PM ET
it's taking everything in my power to hold back from getting into a legit argument with a friend, here are his points:
1. We need to focus on D, so we need Brent Burns.
2. Ryane Clowe would fit perfectly because Hartnell sucks and Simmonds can't do all the fighting.
3. Coots is awful and needs to go. Laughton can handle everything Coots does and he fights.

Someone please get my blood pressure down.

- five4fighting10


Um wow... Would it help if I hit your friend in the head? We'll assume he's suffering from PCS and move on.

That out of the way...

1. I'd say sure we could use Brent Burns if the asking price wasn't astronomical. But since it probably would be no thanks.
2. Hartnell has been playing hurt this season and has been on our highest/strongest scoring line for the past 3 years. It's not because he sucks and brings nothing to the table. I don't want him to fight, I want him to score and yap.
3. I want to see Laughton play next season as our 4th possibly 3rd line center. However Coots has the potential to be more. It's not a coincidence that every GM asks for him first. A sophomore slump isn't anything to can him over. And besides who else puts grit in Malkin's jock strap the way he does?
FlyersGrace
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Pronger "Play the game puffnuts!" , DE
Joined: 07.02.2012

Apr 1 @ 1:58 PM ET
You need to find better friends.
- mayorofangrytown


We don't count as better friends. We are all nuts!
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Apr 1 @ 1:58 PM ET
1 new girlfriend and someone's mom... The usual suspects.
- FlyersGrace

Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Apr 1 @ 1:58 PM ET
your friend is a douchebag
- Philly1980


Anyone who thinks Cooter sucks because he's having year 2 growing pains is insane. Having said all this, had we sent him to Nashville for Weber in the right deal..fine.. he doesn't suck.
FlyerGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.18.2007

Apr 1 @ 1:59 PM ET
lots and lots of Flyers rumors in these 18 pages ... and an awful lot of twitter quotes.

just thought I'd remind everyone that it IS April Fools day. Let's not get too carried away on some of this.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Apr 1 @ 2:00 PM ET
My favorite line so far today:

"Maybe Homer is confusing Clowe and Couture"
five4fighting10
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Cherry Hill, NJ
Joined: 02.22.2008

Apr 1 @ 2:01 PM ET
Um wow... Would it help if I hit your friend in the head? We'll assume he's suffering from PCS and move on.

That out of the way...

1. I'd say sure we could use Brent Burns if the asking price wasn't astronomical. But since it probably would be no thanks.
2. Hartnell has been playing hurt this season and has been on our highest/strongest scoring line for the past 3 years. It's not because he sucks and brings nothing to the table. I don't want him to fight, I want him to score and yap.
3. I want to see Laughton play next season as our 4th possibly 3rd line center. However Coots has the potential to be more. It's not a coincidence that every GM asks for him first. A sophomore slump isn't anything to can him over. And besides who else puts grit in Malkin's jock strap the way he does?

- FlyersGrace

Exactly! I'd take Burns (I don't love the cap hit) but he won't solve our actual defensive issues. This kid clearly loves fighting a little too much and favors those players. He's had it out for Coots since day 1 of this season. I wish this was an April Fools Joke but sadly, it isn't.
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Apr 1 @ 2:01 PM ET
I accept your apology.
- feelingkettle

Well I am sorry if you thought I was attacking you personally. It wasn't the intent. It was meant to be funny.
five4fighting10
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Cherry Hill, NJ
Joined: 02.22.2008

Apr 1 @ 2:02 PM ET
Sometimes murder is the only way to chill out.
- shekkie

opeth_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Implication
Joined: 12.13.2011

Apr 1 @ 2:04 PM ET
Dustin Leed
@D_LEED
AF. RT @AprFoolsBobMc: PHI trades F Sean Couturier to SJ for F Ryane Clowe and D Brent Burns
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