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Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Apr 1 @ 9:53 PM ET
Robidas sounds like a good target... wish beauch was available. Unlike Wilson, Carlyle would know how to use him.
lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.25.2011

Apr 1 @ 9:54 PM ET
Robidas sounds like a good target... wish beauch was available. Unlike Wilson, Carlyle would know how to use him.
- Feeling Glucky?


Like in conjunction with winning a cup....???
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Apr 1 @ 9:54 PM ET
Definitely.

The one thing I will say that Cherry missed on the whole Kadri situation is that Naz of two years ago wouldn't have helped the team, and there was no point dropping him into a situation where he was set up for failure. Kid clearly has mad skills, but needed some time to learn how to be a pro. Very much like Bobby Ryan

- lumlums


i have been saying this all along

develop the player properly, you have to in toronto.. its a f'n fishbowl.. the marlies are a good place to get not only crucial grooming as players, but as guys who have to speak with the media

its the exact same reason why i dont want to see rielly in a leafs uniform until at least the 2015-2016 season
AngryWhiteMale
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 09.14.2010

Apr 1 @ 9:55 PM ET
So what? It's either that or a 5.3 cap hit until 2022.

The best solution is to get neither one but if Nonis is hell bent on a veteran goalie, better Kiprusoff than Luongo.

- Two_For_Truth


Exactly the point I was trying to make earlier

And no, they can't buy-out Kiprusoff because the only way he accepts a trade to the Leafs is if he gets an extension hence why Nonis is talking to his people right now.
- Two_For_Truth


I think a lot of it has to do with speaking to him and gauging how interested he would be in playing in Toronto in the first place.

Maybe Nonis would be willing to consider a 1 year deal, but it still would have to be held under the pretext that he wouldn't be playing the next few seasons at the 70 game rate he was before, and his salary would correspond with that, as Reimer is obviously going to be given every chance to win the starters job.
AngryWhiteMale
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 09.14.2010

Apr 1 @ 9:55 PM ET
Robidas sounds like a good target... wish beauch was available. Unlike Wilson, Carlyle would know how to use him.
- Feeling Glucky?


I agree, as long as DAL doesn't want anything stupid for him, he's worth a look.
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Apr 1 @ 9:55 PM ET
Given that they have lost Ribeiro and potentially are losing Roy, I'd almost be tempted to pitch them a Grabo for Robidas + deal.
- lumlums


robidas + roy for ?

boy would that fill some holes
jribout
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 01.24.2011

Apr 1 @ 9:56 PM ET
helps when you dont trade those picks away after you draft them

the whole "keeping the player" is kinda crucial for the whole "drafting well" concept to work.

- Dozzer



Nylund, Richardson Thornton, Pearson, Berhewosky... need I go on....
AngryWhiteMale
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 09.14.2010

Apr 1 @ 9:56 PM ET
i have been saying this all along

develop the player properly, you have to in toronto.. its a f'n fishbowl.. the marlies are a good place to get not only crucial grooming as players, but as guys who have to speak with the media

its the exact same reason why i dont want to see rielly in a leafs uniform until at least the 2015-2016 season

- Dozzer


Even if he blows the coaches away next year he needs another full year in junior, with a WJC appearance and Marlis playoff work
lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.25.2011

Apr 1 @ 9:56 PM ET
i have been saying this all along

develop the player properly, you have to in toronto.. its a f'n fishbowl.. the marlies are a good place to get not only crucial grooming as players, but as guys who have to speak with the media

its the exact same reason why i dont want to see rielly in a leafs uniform until at least the 2015-2016 season

- Dozzer


I could see him in here from the 2014 season as he clearly has the talent, and seems like he has his head on his shoulders.... but you don't do it unless you can put them in a successful environment, especially when you have a guy like Eakins coaching in the AHL.


PS Kipper burned again, Hall from Schultz
lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.25.2011

Apr 1 @ 9:58 PM ET
robidas + roy for ?

boy would that fill some holes

- Dozzer


Grabo plus a pick? It would be more if Robidas was younger or Roy was under contract longer
AngryWhiteMale
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 09.14.2010

Apr 1 @ 9:59 PM ET
robidas + roy for ?

boy would that fill some holes

- Dozzer


Pass on the Roy.

I will admit you guys brought up Louis Eriksson recently on these forums and it's really got me thinking. Could we get Loui for say, Grabs+?

Grabs
2nd(we can flip Mac for a 2nd from someone else to recoup that 2nd rounder)
Liles
Ashton
_____

Eriksson
Robidas
The_Vark
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.21.2011

Apr 1 @ 9:59 PM ET
robidas + Louie for ?

boy would that fill some holes

- Dozzer



Fixed



(I knows he's not a centre I just love him )
lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.25.2011

Apr 1 @ 10:00 PM ET
Exactly the point I was trying to make earlier



I think a lot of it has to do with speaking to him and gauging how interested he would be in playing in Toronto in the first place.

Maybe Nonis would be willing to consider a 1 year deal, but it still would have to be held under the pretext that he wouldn't be playing the next few seasons at the 70 game rate he was before, and his salary would correspond with that, as Reimer is obviously going to be given every chance to win the starters job.

- AngryWhiteMale


Take Kipper down to a 50:50 split and I think he could be REALLY damn effective.
lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.25.2011

Apr 1 @ 10:01 PM ET
Fixed



(I knows he's not a centre I just love him )

- The_Vark


Man, I'm with you... I was thinking about amending it myself. IF it was Robidas and Loui Id say Grabo, MacA and then picks to make up the gap
The_Vark
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.21.2011

Apr 1 @ 10:01 PM ET
Pass on the Roy.

I will admit you guys brought up Louis Eriksson recently on these forums and it's really got me thinking. Could we get Loui for say, Grabs+?

Grabs
2nd(we can flip Mac for a 2nd from someone else to recoup that 2nd rounder)
Liles
Ashton
_____

Eriksson
Robidas

- AngryWhiteMale


I would (frank)Ing love it

But it would cost WAY more
twiztedmike
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.06.2007

Apr 1 @ 10:02 PM ET
Pass on the Roy.

I will admit you guys brought up Louis Eriksson recently on these forums and it's really got me thinking. Could we get Loui for say, Grabs+?

Grabs
2nd(we can flip Mac for a 2nd from someone else to recoup that 2nd rounder)
Liles
Ashton
_____

Eriksson
Robidas

- AngryWhiteMale

there would have to be a 1st going to Dallas but thats fine with me.
AngryWhiteMale
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 09.14.2010

Apr 1 @ 10:03 PM ET
I would (frank)Ing love it

But it would cost WAY more

- The_Vark


Hard to say how much they value Eriksson in DAL(Nieuwendyk). They may be happy with a 2nd rounder and a prospect.

Plus if they have no intention of resigning Roy, they can use Grabs as their second line centre and trade roy for a pick as well.

Tough call but you're on the right track
The_Vark
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.21.2011

Apr 1 @ 10:03 PM ET
Take Kipper down to a 50:50 split and I think he could be REALLY damn effective.
- lumlums

I think it would take way more

The pick would have 2 be a first

Like a 1st, 2nd, blacker and a roster player
Two_For_Truth
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: If the NHL wanted to cut ties
Joined: 06.27.2012

Apr 1 @ 10:03 PM ET
Man, I'm with you... I was thinking about amending it myself. IF it was Robidas and Loui Id say Grabo, MacA and then picks to make up the gap
- lumlums


Not a chance Dallas is that stupid.
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Apr 1 @ 10:04 PM ET
Nylund, Richardson Thornton, Pearson, Berhewosky... need I go on....
- jribout


ok, i will play

Nylund: played over 600 games with 171 points and over 1200 PIM

Richardson: really? well ok.i guess over 1200GP isnt impressive enough for ya, another tough gritty d-man

Thornton: nearly 1000GP, the guy carved a role as a bottom 6 checking forward. not sure how thats a bad thing

Pearson? which one? lol doesnt matter.. i'll give you this one

Berehowsky: was not drafted in the 80s

now lets bring up the a couple other names you didnt mention:

Iafrate
Damphousse
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Apr 1 @ 10:06 PM ET
I could see him in here from the 2014 season as he clearly has the talent, and seems like he has his head on his shoulders.... but you don't do it unless you can put them in a successful environment, especially when you have a guy like Eakins coaching in the AHL.


PS Kipper burned again, Hall from Schultz

- lumlums


as for rielly

as of right now he would be, at BEST 3rd on the PMD depth chart

liles
gardiner (who isnt even playing regularly himself)
then rielly

if carlyle is still around.. dont expect rielly to make the jump until after at least one year of pro
AngryWhiteMale
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 09.14.2010

Apr 1 @ 10:08 PM ET
there would have to be a 1st going to Dallas but thats fine with me.
- twiztedmike


Not sure how crazy I am about just giving up a 1st.

Maybe on condition we make it past the 1st round in the playoffs?

Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Apr 1 @ 10:08 PM ET
Pass on the Roy.

I will admit you guys brought up Louis Eriksson recently on these forums and it's really got me thinking. Could we get Loui for say, Grabs+?

Grabs
2nd(we can flip Mac for a 2nd from someone else to recoup that 2nd rounder)
Liles
Ashton
_____

Eriksson
Robidas

- AngryWhiteMale


never happen, dallas, if anything, is dumping salary right now not taking it on.
AngryWhiteMale
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 09.14.2010

Apr 1 @ 10:08 PM ET
Would you guys think Giordano is untouchable in CGY
lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.25.2011

Apr 1 @ 10:09 PM ET
Not a chance Dallas is that stupid.
- Two_For_Truth


Niskanen and Neal for Goligoski... they've been stupid before...
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